The Crusades

[luiz]

This scenario takes place in the year 1185, in the begining of the Third Crusade. Saladin, Sultan of the Fatimite Califate captured Antioch and the Holy city of Jerusalem.
The pope demanded that the Christian kingdoms send troops to take back the Holy Land. The 3 great Monarchs of Western Europe, Frederick Barbarossa of the Holy Roman Empire, Richard Lionheart king of England and Phillip Augustus king of France went to the Mid East to command the crusaders.
Meanwhile, the spanish from the kingdom of Leon and Castille have a crusade of their own. They must push the moors invaders back to Africa.

This is how the world is divided:

England
France
Leon and Castille
Holy Roman Empire
Apulia-Calabria
Scotland
Irish Kingdoms
Poland
Hungary
Kiev
Byzantine Empire
Scandinavia
Almoravid Califate
Fatimite Califate

Of course this scenario needs Diplomatic settings, but they arent avaiable yet.

 

[luiz]

Please people make comments so that I can improve the scenario

 

[Scurcus]

I just downloaded the scenario, I hope it´s great.

My first idea for a medieval scanario was supposed to be around 1200.

I will tell you what I think when I tried the scenario.

 

[Scurcus]

this scenario is supposed to be in the end of the 12th century, at that time the vikings were gone, and replaced by three pretty civilized kingdoms in scandinavia and many of the typical viking towns were also gone, for example Birka, and Skiringsal in norway was smaller and less important. I think you should change the names on some of the scandinavian towns. Birka could be Sigtuna, hedeby in Denmark should not be in, the biggest towns in denmark were Viborg in northern Jylland and Roskilde (except for Lund wich where danish). Trondheim was an important town and were called Nidaros.

One thing I wonder about is the workers in eastern Turkey, what are they for?

 

[luiz]

I will change the scandinavian city names as soon as possible.
The workers are in eastern Turkey so that all civs can establish contact. I normally use explores, but there werent explorers in 12th century.
What did you think of the rest of the scenario?

 

[Elden]

Perhaps the player civ's worker should be on the nearby mountain with the others surrouning that, as it is now you sometimes have to guess where a worker is and chase them to get contact with that civ.

Also, why is there a city called Salamanca in Spain, Salamanca is the capital of Iroquois in Civ 3, perhaps that city could be Madrid ???

 

[luiz]

Good idea to put the workers in a mountain.
About Salamanca, it is a famous spanish city also known as "Golden City" and is located west of Madrid.

 

[Scurcus]

I think the scenario is good, but when I make scenarios I try to get the map as exact as possible, with cityplacement and countryshapes as exact as possible, but I have realised that isn´t really the most important thing about a scenario, so I think this scenario is really good.

You could rename Skandinavia to Kalmarunion, that was a union at the time of the scenario in wich Denmark practically controlled Norway and Sweden, under the queen Margaretha, this was the closest Scandinavia has been to one country. The union ended with the danish king "Christian the tyrant" at 1521.

 

[luiz]

Ill fix the Scandinanvian problems as soon as possible. The Kalmar Union is a good idea.
In my early scenarios, I was very concerned with city placement and country shapes, but I figured out that the country shapes change very quickly due to culture, so its not worth the huge effort. Of course, the scenario is better if its precise. I try to make my scenarios precise, but I dont try very hard anymore.
Thanks for the comments and suggestions, I may release a new version soon.

 

[LuckyOrDead]

I liked your scenario and I was making a similar one for PTW, but I liked yours better.

Any chance you are going to update yours, Some of the new units would really add some spice to your already good scenario.

 

[luiz]

Thanks LuckyorDead. Im going to buy PTW this week, and I will surely update most of my scenarios, including this one.

 

[Lynx]

this has some inaccuracies...

 

[luiz]

Lynx, please specify them so that I can fix it

 

[Lynx]

the Irish had been conquered by the english is one, and where is the kingdom of Aragorn???

 

[luiz]

Only parts of Ireland were conquerd by the English in 1185, but the real reason why in my scenario the Irish are independent is that I used I map from 1100, hehe.
About Aragon, I chose to make only one Christian Spanish kingdom, otherwise I would have to place Navarre as well and the spanish christians would be to weak and unable to take the Peninsula back.

 

[Kenric af Grashen]

I have noticed a small error in City Placement: Portsmouth is too far west perhaps the city there should be named Southampton or Bournemouth other than that it looks really good

 

[werdhertz]

This is a pretty good scenario. A few things i noticed, that could be changed for the better are.....

Change the Swordsman to Medieval Infantry (which are available in PTW)
I didnt like how all the workers were in that one spot just so everyone would meet... Kind of cheesy, wish there was a better way, and hopefully Firaxis releases a Diplomacy Editor soon.
The Byzantin Epire starts with -56 gold per turn. I dont know if this is intentional, but it isnt really a problem, since after a couple of turns of building workers you can turn that around to a + sign.
Make a city list for each civilization! Polands capital was beijing, etc, and had all chinese cities, and thats only one example.
You should also disable the option to build settlers to make it more historically accurate.
One last thing, change the year to reflect the time period. Your game started in 4000BC, if you have PTW, you can easily change that too 1185AD.

 

[werdhertz]

double post here.

 

[luiz]

Werdhertz, thanks for the suggestions
I do have PTW, but it seems impossible to modify a non-PTW scenario. If someone knows how to do it, please tell me.

 

[luiz]

I just discovered how to do it.