The Euro is here

[Black Fluffy Lion]

indeed ,thus 500Euro is quite some cash.

$500 wow, you could do some damage with that.

Yeah well ,it seems that with the indroduction of the euro ,now Sweden ,britain and Denmark want to join afterall.I guess the feel left out now.

Denmark didn't want to join because it's currency was stronger than the overall euro ,as was britian's and Sweden's currency.
But if one of those country's decide to join the Euro ,the other's will folow them.
When that happen's the Euro will be a stronger currency than the US Dollar.

Britain's bound to join some time, though.

Thanks for the pictures Duck

 

[Ohwell]

I see that many countries are still signing up, I wonder if the United States will lose power. My hopes for a completley unified Europe are seeming to be coming to life . The rest of the world hasn't a chance! Sure, I would rather have a unified world, but this is good enough.

 

[DinoDoc]

And so another link in the chain forms.

 

[Drekken]

Originally posted by Ohwell
My hopes for a completley unified Europe are seeming to be coming to life .

United States of Europe (USE), that'd be interesting.

Sure, I would rather have a unified world,

Keep dreaming.

 

[Prometeus]

Welcome - and long life - to King Euro...

Adieu - sadly - to Queen Lira...

Guys, I'll miss these beautiful pics... Athene's School, drawned by Raffaello Sanzio, on 500000 lire versus.

 

[Sixchan]

That buys, what, a pair of socks?

Sweden and Britain are great big copycats! Denmark voted no, and then they had to, to

I think I missed an election in britain! We didn't vote yes or no, we didn't vote at all!

 

[Prometeus]

Originally posted by Sixchan
That buys, what, a pair of socks?

500000 lire buy actually... 100 pair socks or something similar. Approx. value... 258,23 € .

 

[Suppersalmon]

No we did not vote we were told i want the euro i want it NOW!!!!

 

[IceBlaZe]

I dont bet on the euro becoming stronger than the dollar, or more stable, because in USA when someone unemplyed in california can move to washington in Europe its not like that, there are vast cultural and lingual differences and that will make movement of jobs between countries almost impossible.
If the work-cap wont be unified, than the prices also wont be unified and the unified economy wont be that unified at all compared to USA...
And the unbalance of east european countries with weak economy against strong west european countries like france and germany is also a factor that will prevent the euro from being as strong and stable as the dollar...

just my 2 cents

 

[CornMaster]

Originally posted by The Balrog
Sweden and Britain are great big copycats! Denmark voted no, and then they had to, to

Originally posted by The Balrog
Congrats, you attached them.

Originally posted by The Balrog
Uhhmmm..... Where?

Originally posted by The Balrog
No itsnt, with greetings from Denmark

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[Wolfe Tone]

I also hope that the UK adopts the Euro soon. I live quite near the border with Republic of Ireland so I buy certain things down there and some things up here. The thing is I am either going have to change my currency all the time or carry two sets of cash. Come on Britain Either execept the Euro or allow us in the Northern Counties of Ireland to operate a duel currency

Plus we get to see how much we are being ripped off by without getting the calculator out LOL

 

[Drekken]

FYI: 1 euro = 88 cents US
Better than the Canadian Dollar: $1 (CDN) = 62 cents US
Thanx to our stupid Federal govenment, the Americans will just one day buy us out.
P.S. - I didn't vote for them.

 

[TheDuckOfFlanders]

Sure ,the Euro is lower at this point than the US $ ,but it has some strong point's that eventually can make it stronger than any other currency.
Knowing that Britian,Denmark and Sweden have the strongest currency's in europe (and the rest of the world) ,if they would join the Euro (wich is surely possible ,especially in the long run) ,it would boost the strenth of the Euro.
One of it's major strenth's of the European union is that it devide's the European money amongst the poorest country's of the Union ,effectively speeding up the development of those country's (in some case's in a VERY fast rate ,as ex. Ireland & greece)
Another major strenth of the E.u is that it is very expansive.There are already 15 member-country's in the E.U ,that will surely grow with the joining of more eastern European country's.Sure those country's are not that developed ,and they will pull down the strenth of the Euro in the short term.But if Europe can develop those country's at the speed it did in some other country's ,then the future on the long run looks very bright.Know that Europe already has more consumers than Amerika (300Mil ,US has about 250Mil) at this point ,and the number of consumer's will surely grow when more country's decide to join.
Important in this are the recource's the new joining country's bare.As for example a lot of european country's have very high gas prices ,due to the fact that their soil don't bare oil or gas ,while other European country's do have a lot of those recources.
East Europe has a lot of strategic recources the West can use and if these country's are in the euro zone ,the prices for such recources will become much cheaper for the West ,Cutting down the overall costs to recources for the west-European industry will make the company's in Europe a lot more profitable and competive.

I am getting proud that i am a European.Surely i'm proud of the great developing system of the Union towards poorer country's in the Union.It provide's stable economic progression ,rather than over investment in air-filled Technological company's.

that is i guess the diference between europe's economy and America's economy.Our economy grow's on a much more stable base ,While the American Economy has grown only on "invester confidence" for 10 years ,and recently that invester confidence has collapsed.Now america is thrown back to the economical level it had in the 80's.
We develop country's ,so that the consumor's get wealthier al over the Union ,on a fairly equal level.That is real growth IMO.

 

[Apollo]

There's been some talk about doing similar things in the Americas. The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) was put together to counter the EC/EU, and since the Euro has been such a success, some people want to do the same thing here. It would be reletively simple with Canada and the U.S., with predominantly the same language (sorry Quebec) and culture, but then you look south and things go bad. There's been some talk (this is all just talk, and nothing is actually happening yet) about expanding NAFTA into all of the Americas, and then having a unfying currency that would skip over Mexico and Central America, and include more stable countries like Chile. None of this will probably happen though unless the UK, Sweden, and Denmark convert to the Euro and it does really well, and surpasses the U.S. dollar. Once this happens people will not be content over here to be economically inferior to Europe, and will want change.

 

[Drekken]

Originally posted by Apollo
There's been some talk about doing similar things in the Americas. The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) was put together to counter the EC/EU, and since the Euro has been such a success, some people want to do the same thing here. It would be reletively simple with Canada and the U.S., with predominantly the same language (sorry Quebec) and culture, but then you look south and things go bad. There's been some talk (this is all just talk, and nothing is actually happening yet) about expanding NAFTA into all of the Americas, and then having a unfying currency that would skip over Mexico and Central America, and include more stable countries like Chile. None of this will probably happen though unless the UK, Sweden, and Denmark convert to the Euro and it does really well, and surpasses the U.S. dollar. Once this happens people will not be content over here to be economically inferior to Europe, and will want change.

Let's put the America back into North America, eh. I don't really care though, Ottawa does such a bad job at running the economy that having Washington helping out can't make it worst. It'd probally help out the poor countries in the south. So I support the North American superstate.

 

[TheDuckOfFlanders]

It'd probally help out the poor countries in the south.

I doubt it. it would mostly be in america's benifit. It's not a mutual currency ,rather a free trade zone.

 

[Drekken]

I was refering to a mutual currency, not just the NAFTA.

 

[The Balrog]

Originally posted by CornMaster




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HEY!!! That is constructive! Just in a unconstructive way!

Let me guess, see you in a week Balrog!!!

 

[amadeus]

The Euro...

You all just start waiting until other European nations' domestic problems cause recessions in your own countries that are carrying the Euro.

We all saw how great a currency caliberated to another worked out back in Argentina, didn't we?

 

[TheDuckOfFlanders]

I was refering to a mutual currency, not just the NAFTA.

Sorry ,indeed i was talking about Nafta.

A mutual currency for the whole of the American continent seems impossible IMO at this moment.(Argentinia would like to join i'm sure poor guy's)
A mutual currency for a smaller number of country's (prob. only the most rich country's) of the American continent (for ex. U.S and Canada only ,maybe with mexico or any other country) would be possible ,but still not truly interresting for the U.S ,as they would have to pay almost everything.And the U.S is still much more self-reliant as one country of the Union.
The country's of the European union have a lot more interrest in coorperation with eachother than The U.S has with it's own neighbour's on the econimal level.Europe is much Denser than North america ,and one finds himself easely in another country with another currency.The U.S and Canada are widespread.

it seems more rational to me for the U.S and Canada to join the E.U ,toghether with China,Russia and japan.A Northern Super Union would be mugh more interesting than 2 or more mutual currency's expanding to the south.Why would we european's as economical union want to expand to for ex. Africa or the middle east? Russia and East Europe seems to have much better perspective for us in economical terms. (russian recource's potential :crazyeyes)