The Grognards

[LouLong]

Welcome here,

I hope the weird title attracted your attention, well it stands for the NAPoleonic Project.

The idea is to gather people interested in the period to create a Napoleonic mod, gather napoleonic resources (units, icons, ...), ideas and scenarios (yes, plural form) eventually (Egypt, Spain, Europe 1812,...).

Trip seems to have vanished and I am making Napoleonic units at the moment (even if only copy/paste) and they seem to me like a good way to attract attention and gather people. Because I need help : help for doing items but for discussing ideas and the era as well. So you don't need to be a unit creator to "join" the project.

I will start a set of forums at CDG as well (easier organization) but since I spend most of my time here this current thread should not die, provided there are other people interested.

We would need unit creators (of course ), graphics people, tester (to test ideas, not only for the finished product) and quality controllers (that is probably for later), people interested (or specialists) for some topics (ships,...), the way to handle the tech-tree or the Spaceship, people who would want to use the mod to create their own scenario on the period, wanderers and criticizers,....

This is a long-term project that will take advantage of the new Conquests features and much more precise than the expected Conquests scenario.
BTW they should provide us with at least one new unit for that scenario !

 

[LouLong]

NAPP mod and main scenario time frame : 1789 - 1820

1789 - 1795 the Revolutionary period (posibility to not include it to focus only on the Napoleonic era)
1795 - 1804 The rise of France
1804 - 1812 The Empire (Golden Age)
1812 - 1820 : The Decline (now of course civ is a what if history so 1815 does not have to end the process)

which makes a bit more than 300 turns if we consider one turn equals one month.

Still open to discussion and new ideas.

 

[LouLong]

This post is to list the major countries, their armies, fleet and leaders and to represent the advancement of the work. When SOMEONE is written, it means somebody is welcome to take part in the job. Contact us and we will give you models.

Austria
Infantry : Austria had 64 regiments of line infantry that were divided along their ethnic origin (mostly German (44) then Hungarian (12), and some Wallons (Belgium)(5), Croatian (2) and Italian (1). They wore mostly a white uniform. Besides existed some Landwehr (territorial military, 15 regiments) and some chasseurs (light infantry).
The uniform did not evolve much during the period except for the Line helmet which copied the "French" shako after 1805.
Cavalry grouped 8 regiments of heavy cavalry (cuirassiers), hussars (12) and Uhlans (4)

Units :
Line Infantry before 1805 done by Loulong, not posted
Line Infantry after 1805 done by Loulong, not posted
Landwehr Loulong
Chasseurs SOMEONE
Cuirassiers SOMEONE
Hussars SOMEONE
Uhlans SOMEONE

Britain
Denmark-Norway
France
Ottomans
Portugal
Units :
Line infantry : StatusPerfect
Prussia
Russia
Spain
Sweden

 

[LouLong]

Austria
Barabesc (Maghreb)
Britain
Denmark (Norway)
France
Ottomans
Mamluk
Netherlands / Batavia
Poland
Portugal
Prussia
Russia
Spain (loyalist)
Spain (Napoleonic)
Sweden
Swiss / Helvetia
USA


Italy will be divided as such :

Austria (Tuscany, Milanese Lombardia)
Venice
Papal States
Savoy/Sardinia
Naples
Small Italians (Genoa, Parma, Modena)
kingfom of Italy (Napoleonic)


Germany will be divided as such (and the empty shell of Holy Roman Empire will be forgotten or could just be a "race"). The independant cities within minor states will be incorporated

Britain (Hannover)
Denmark (Holstein)
Sweden (Pomerania)
Austria and Prussia
Bavaria
Germany (all others, including some cities)
Rhine confederacy (others than Wurtemberg)
Saxony
Westphalia
Wurtemberg (or Bade-Wurtemberg) that will be made one country


which amounts to 29, knowing than all of them cannot appear on the same map at the same time.

 

[LouLong]

Another one

 

[LouLong]

And the last one

 

[Padma]

Originally posted by LouLong
Trip seems to have vanished

Well, I know he is busy testing Conquests. I hope he will start showing up here again soon, though.

 

[Steph]

Of course I'm in!

And more project, one!

 

[LouLong]

Originally posted by Steph
Of course I'm in!

And more project, one!

(without you it would not have been the same )

 

[LouLong]

Originally posted by Padma
Well, I know he is busy testing Conquests. I hope he will start showing up here again soon, though.

Well, he did not answer my PMs about his project (Conquests must be real good if he is that busy) so I just decided to create a real group on that project and I intend to see it finished.

 

[LouLong]

Few people interested I hope some more will join in during the process.

OK, first questions :

1/ Time Period
2/ Eras
3/ Countries

Don't hesitate to bring in your stone.

 

[Yoda Power]

1. The mod should run from 1789 to 1816(quite obvious I think)

2. Eras:

Revolution(1798-1795)
Rise of France(1796-1802)
Empire(1802-1812)
Decline of France(1812-1816)

3. Civs:

France(duh)
Britain
Russia
Austria
Prussia
Spain
Portugal
Ottomans
German States
Netherland
Denmark-Norway
Sweden
Kingdom of Naples and Sicily
North Italian States
Swiss Confederation
Poland
North African States

 

[mrtn]

I'm kinda interested. I don't know if I'd be a permanent member, or just drop in from time to time.
I think that the conquest is fun, so you'll probably find some nice things there.
btw napp means teat in Swedish, so it's a silly name for a mod.

 

[Steph]

Originally posted by Yoda Power
1. The mod should run from 1789 to 1816(quite obvious I think)

Or perhaps a bit longer, for "what if" evolution.

Originally posted by Yoda Power
2. Eras:

Revolution(1798-1795)
Rise of France(1796-1802)
Empire(1802-1812)
Decline of France(1812-1816)
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1798-1795? Can the turns go backward?
Empire should start 1804 (2nd december 1804).
This way you have : 6 years for first era, 8 for second, 8 for third, and 4 for last (an even 6 if you continue till let say 1818), it's more balanced than 6,6,10,4.

Originally posted by Yoda Power

3. Civs:
France(duh)
Britain
Russia
Austria
Prussia
Spain
Portugal
Ottomans
German States
Netherland
Denmark-Norway
Sweden
Kingdom of Naples and Sicily
North Italian States
Swiss Confederation
Poland
North African States

You can split German states, including for instance Bavaria as an independant country. You could also forget North African States, and make them barbarian (after all, Algiers was known for pirate activity).
USA could also be in if you want to include the war of 1812 against the evil English.

 

[Yoda Power]

Or perhaps a bit longer, for "what if" evolution.

I thought about that too after I posted. Then I suggest make it end in 1820.

1798-1795? Can the turns go backward?
Empire should start 1804 (2nd december 1804).
This way you have : 6 years for first era, 8 for second, 8 for third, and 4 for last (an even 6 if you continue till let say 1818), it's more balanced than 6,6,10,4.

woops, typo, I meant 1789. Ok so the eras should be:

1789-1795
1795-1804
1804-1812
1812-1820

this is just my own suggestion, LouLong has´nt approved it.

You can split German states, including for instance Bavaria as an independant country. You could also forget North African States, and make them barbarian (after all, Algiers was known for pirate activity).
USA could also be in if you want to include the war of 1812 against the evil English.

Well yes you could split the german states, but it should´nt be more than into two civs. They would become too week otherwise. Did´nt even thought about USA, but I think it should be Europe onyl. It wasn´t a world war.

 

[Steph]

We could have a part of the map showing the East coast of America and Canada, make Ocean impassable except to English ships.

So England can get a bit more resources from colonies, and if US decide to attack them, then they need to dispatch reinforcement that could have been useful in Europe.

But it's not an very important idea, I'd rather see a nice European only scenario

 

[jamesjkirk]

Also, the US's Barbary Wars fall in that period.
What would also be cool is a "Hundred Days" scenario, where you would start with essentially nothing but Napoleon, and build yourself up using military and high culture buildings to cause Royalist cities to flip to your side. Naturally, it would be a 100 turnish scenario

 

[LouLong]

Originally posted by mrtn
I'm kinda interested. I don't know if I'd be a permanent member, or just drop in from time to time.
I think that the conquest is fun, so you'll probably find some nice things there.
btw napp means teat in Swedish, so it's a silly name for a mod.

Good news.
Hoe there will be new stuff I can use (but it won't be the same scope here)
it is an English-speaking forum (or so I have been warned about ) so it is OK. Besides I really don't mind such a nickname for the Swedish community (look, it attracted you attention, didn't it ? ).

 

[LouLong]

Originally posted by jamesjkirk
Also, the US's Barbary Wars fall in that period.
What would also be cool is a "Hundred Days" scenario, where you would start with essentially nothing but Napoleon, and build yourself up using military and high culture buildings to cause Royalist cities to flip to your side. Naturally, it would be a 100 turnish scenario

Actually the idea behind the mod is not to actaully have it playable but to have all the resources to make scenarios. The project will include the global scenario but other ideas can be included too (and by other people) like the war in Egypt, the 1812 campaign from US to Russia,..... and I volunteer to do the special maps for everyone who intends on creating a scenario for that period).

 

[LouLong]

I actually quite like the 4 eras discussed by Yoda and Steph.
I am the "moderator" here and I don't want to be the only one to decide (though I might have to do that sometimes ).

That would of course represent the entire period and not only the Napoleonic one but as previously said once we have all the data it should be easy to do specialized scenarios.

So I propose the :

1789-1795
1795-1804
1804-1812
1812-1820

1815 is of course not set in stone since Civ3 is about what if history.

Please state if you disagree (and why) before it is carved in marble for eternity.