The Huns Make me Sad

[PhilBowles]

what pisses me off about the Huns is they seem to raze every single city they capture. I realize this is their UA but still. In my first game they could have had at least 4-5 plus puppet cities that they burned down. There few cities were surrounded by ruins of Dutch and other cities.

I actually like this - firstly because it makes them distinctive in their play, and secondly because it can make for interesting wars. Most Civ V wars, if they end with you losing cities, you'll just reconquer them - ditto for most earlier incarnations of the game. Knowing that if the Huns breach your defences, you may well lose a city for good adds a level of desperation to making sure they don't get their rams into position.

As for the city name thing, in my current games the Huns founded Los Angeles, Siebal and Zaragoza. America is in the game, and I'm playing as the Maya (giving me the interesting experience of conquering the Hunnic city of Siebal...) If the Spanish are in the game, I haven't yet encountered them.

Since the original poster mentioned encountering cities from civs not in the game, it seems that you can't use the Hun city names to predict which civs have yet to be discovered, since they can equally well be using a civ that's in the game as one that isn't.

 

[smallfish]

Wait till you have the Hunnic city of Venlo, deliberately plopped down on your northern border of polder-filled Rotterdam

 

[ptoss1]

I deliberately hemmed in the Huns into my recent game as Netherlands, and it was lackluster; there was a small ocean between our lands, and the only way he could get to my lands proper was through China to the north.

China with the Great Wall.

ie. I see he also likes denouncing his targets before he declares war. Turn 13 and he already denounced Wu, for instance.

e: he isn't a forgiving type for all his flavor text might suggest - he promised to let me off the hook for stealing his techs, AND THE VERY NEXT TURN, he denounced me.

He denounced me on Turn 6 I was like, ... I just met you WTH. I was focusing too much on expanding and building wonders and he amassed an army to attack me pretty early on. He didn't succeed and it was basically stalemate for 3000 years before I gained the tech advantage.

 

[tmthesaurus]

Glasgow isn't a small city either, it's the biggest city in Scotland! I'd assume most people (at least in Europe) know what Glasgow is. I don't mind too much when they take the name from say, the Aztec cities, they all sound the same, but Glasgow? Get it together Firaxis,

The probably all look the same to you on account of your racist racism
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I was annoyed at the inclusion of the Huns until I saw the Attila leader video. God, that voice actor rocks. As good a choice as the choice of the voice actor for Ramesses II.

I agree; in my eyes, the masterful voice acting completely justifies his presence.

What's hilarious about William? And for Maria, I heard her tone is actually pretty good Austrian German. She does sound like a simpering woman, but that's how they're choosing to present her in the expack. XD

Well, he's Dutch -- Dutch people always sound hilarious -- but I get a real Troy McClure vibe from him. Maria speaks Austrian German as well as any Austrian, but she sounds exactly like my babysitter as a kid, so I can't help but imagine her lines being read by a fifteen year old.

 

[Bowsling]

He denounced me on Turn 6 I was like, ... I just met you WTH. I was focusing too much on expanding and building wonders and he amassed an army to attack me pretty early on. He didn't succeed and it was basically stalemate for 3000 years before I gained the tech advantage.

Hey, I just met you
And this is crazy
But I'm your neighbour
So denounce me maybe

 

[qartar]

The Huns weren't Asian, they were indo-european. People know that because they killed their old people. They came from the area that is now Georgia and Azerbijahn. Another civ I thought could be added were the Scythians, another horse archer type civ.

Woah woah woah, where did you hear this? Scythians and Sarmatians were Indo-European but the Huns were not ethnically related to those groups and were almost certainly not Indo-European. I was under the impression that most contemporary historians considered them very foreign and modern historians and linguists tentatively link them to Turkish ethno-linguistic groups.

 

[Morningcalm]

Hey, I just met you
And this is crazy
But I'm your neighbour
So denounce me maybe

Lol. I must applaud your clever use of a very, very oversung song.

 

[Yzman]

Maybe its just me, but hating a civ that didn't have city names to use for using other civ's city names seems silly.

Can't people just enjoy things? There are so many legitimate complaints people can have about games and they always seem to find the littlest things to complain about.

 

[Flying Mathias]

Maybe its just me, but hating a civ that didn't have city names to use for using other civ's city names seems silly.

Can't people just enjoy things? There are so many legitimate complaints people can have about games and they always seem to find the littlest things to complain about.

That's just because GaK is so good there's not much else to complain about.

 

[Peacemongerer]

They could just name Hun cities after places they fought major battles at like Catalaunian Plains, Utus, Bassianae, Margus or Nedao. If all else fails, you can stack the list with names of Hun chieftans like Bleda, Oktar or Rugila. The Huns could also use the same cities as other civs but with names in a different language. The game already does this with Adrianople and Edirne for Byzantium and the Ottomans. You could give alternate names for major cities like Budapest, Vienna or Sofia that sounded different enough and stack that list.

Point is: This is fixable.

 

[cccv]

They could just name Hun cities after places they fought major battles at like Catalaunian Plains, Utus, Bassianae, Margus or Nedao. If all else fails, you can stack the list with names of Hun chieftans like Bleda, Oktar or Rugila. The Huns could also use the same cities as other civs but with names in a different language. The game already does this with Adrianople and Edirne for Byzantium and the Ottomans. You could give alternate names for major cities like Budapest, Vienna or Sofia that sounded different enough and stack that list.

Point is: This is fixable.

I know, but the sucky part is that unless Firaxis fixes it for us we have to either edit the xml ourselves or use a mod, and either way that means no more achievements. Achievements aren't the most important thing ever, I know, but it was nice to feel like I was working toward something every time bought a tile or sunk a ship as Elizabeth or whatever.

 

[Dremora]

Oh come on, this is just silly. I actually love Huns, probably my new favorite civ. My second city was Cannes, so I thought that was quite hilarious and it didn't really bother me. Film festival under the patronage of Atila himself

 

[PhilBowles]

They could just name Hun cities after places they fought major battles at like Catalaunian Plains, Utus, Bassianae, Margus or Nedao.

Surely that's the Zulu UA...

Yes, I am amused that the city name thing is actually listed as part of the Hun UA.

 

[BobDole]

Maybe its just me, but hating a civ that didn't have city names to use for using other civ's city names seems silly.

Can't people just enjoy things? There are so many legitimate complaints people can have about games and they always seem to find the littlest things to complain about.

Yeah, this is always what I wonder when these kinds of threads get so much attention. Oh well...

 

[Tidy]

I like the inclusion of Atilla.

Needless to say, the game hasn't exactly been....Hun-done....

 

[bokaj]

If I'd be bothered so much about the city names I'd either change them in game or find a way to change them permanently through the python file. It should be possible and probably isn't so difficult to change.

All of the GaK leaders have great voice acting (Except Maria), but I find William's voice hilarious.

What's wrong with Maria's voice acting? I am from Austria and it was a really cool moment when I first heard her speak. It's the Vienna accent - really typical Austrian dialect. Also her vocal tonality is convincing to me.

 

[King William I]

If we don't get any more content, it's all your fault. Firaxis didn't have to make this game. you could show a little appreciation rather than refuse to buy the game over a civ??? No wonder thet waited a year and a half before GnK

 

[mountedantman]

Hehe, I only got to make one settler as huns. I conquered 7 cities using only battering rams and horse archers. For the most part, its pretty historically accurate. 2 hits from rams and a few arrows can take a city out easy.

 

[dashwinner]

didn't realized this was a revived thread. sorry. read through 3 pages.

anyways, since I cant delete this post...

I really don't think its that much of a big deal that they steal the names from other civs. If anything, it keeps things fresh, whereas playing the same civ over and over, you kind of wish their city names would switch around too, at least in the sequence in which they are aligned

 

[gozpel]

Maybe just give the Huns double cost settlers, then most players would frown on that and go to war.

I mention this, say if you start on a lone continent and may one CS, How can you ever expand? So with costly settlers even the Huns could expand.