Princeof Persia
Emperor
Yeah, the CPM is the Communist Party of 'Merica, my party.
The Land of the Free
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So, our farmers will have to work on government owned farms? Never! The farmers of America work hard everyday, and this is how you plan to repay them? By using your power as owner of the farms to take away food, and our profit? Surely you must be joking.
Princeof Persia
Emperor
The hard-working will have their place. We will succeed where all utopianistic societies failed. We will "give" equal wages to all classes, the snobby, upper-class members of the ELPA, the tradesmen of the middle class, and the hard-working farmers and laborers of the Farmers of America. Everyone has their place.
And building more Farms will help farmers how? By Increasing competition? By Driving down Profits? Logic will attack the farming class, and force them to suffer lower standerds of living, just as I Predicted! Logic Cares nothing for the people! A Vote for Logic is a Vote for Hardship!
DT
Troublemaker
Princeof Persia
Emperor
Are we allowed to create coalitions like in RP2?
Tambien
Theseus, Duke of Athens
No, you misunderstand. We would build farms, and then sell them to farmers. It is only logical to conclude that a goverment, no matter how small, cannot control the farms of their nation.
Tambien
Theseus, Duke of Athens
Yes. Yes you are.
Princeof Persia
Emperor
But force the Farmer's to work? We will give them rights, money, power! You will treat them as slaves, serving your whims.
But you still have to make a profit, which means the prices for the farmland will go up, and thus it will drive away farmers. And as DT said, doing that will increase competition, and raise the amount of goods to make a profit, something the farmers does not want.
And thus Increase the amount of competition amongst farmers! Your attempts to help the farming community will ruin it! For all your logic focus, you are not using it! You will bring the farmers of our nation down into poverty and ruin! Logic will destroy our people!
DT
Troublemaker
DT
Troublemaker
Princeof Persia
Emperor
No it will not! When the CPM takes, it has to go somewhere. Not to the wealthy snobs of the ELPA, but to the people who need it most: The Farmers and honest, hard-working laborers.
Tambien
Theseus, Duke of Athens
OOC: Competition will bring prices down... something which a larger segment of the population wants. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
IC:
Farmers of America! Do not assume that when we say we will build more farms that we will sell them to others! No, in fact, we plan on selling them to YOU so that you can increase production.
IC:
Farmers of America! Do not assume that when we say we will build more farms that we will sell them to others! No, in fact, we plan on selling them to YOU so that you can increase production.
Princeof Persia
Emperor
But when the CPM rules, the Farmers will be allowed to do what they want! The ELPA will make them grow what THEY say, and when THEY say. Tambien is a fool, not knowing what he is talking about!
I'm not particularly thrilled with the vagueness of some politicians here (from most, if not all, parties), so I will be very clear:
The ELPA is not a dictatorship. For starters, senate and house minority leaders still exist, and hold significant power.
The ELPA is not warmongering. We advocate for self-defense via a highly-advanced military.
The ELPA supports a high standard of living and immigration, and independently-owned-and-run farms support that.
The ELPA supports industrialisation, and government-funded maintenance projects, so highways and construction projects are desirable.
The ELPA supports economic self-sufficiency, which does not mean government-run business.
Any questions?
The ELPA is not a dictatorship. For starters, senate and house minority leaders still exist, and hold significant power.
The ELPA is not warmongering. We advocate for self-defense via a highly-advanced military.
The ELPA supports a high standard of living and immigration, and independently-owned-and-run farms support that.
The ELPA supports industrialisation, and government-funded maintenance projects, so highways and construction projects are desirable.
The ELPA supports economic self-sufficiency, which does not mean government-run business.
Any questions?
Princeof Persia
Emperor
The Farming and government will be hand in hand, but the ELPA will not respect the possible friendship. They will just try to drag the Farmers into despair.
OOC: We're focusing on the farmers issue here! Not the fact that it helps the general population! 
IC: Then you are not building new farms! Rather you are focusing on expanding old ones, which can be done by simply selling the farmers rich cropland! You need not construct new farms if you plan to sell them to current farmers!
OOC: Also; if you want to improve the lot of the general population by lowering food prices, you havent a hope of winning the farmers votes.
DT
IC: Then you are not building new farms! Rather you are focusing on expanding old ones, which can be done by simply selling the farmers rich cropland! You need not construct new farms if you plan to sell them to current farmers!
OOC: Also; if you want to improve the lot of the general population by lowering food prices, you havent a hope of winning the farmers votes.
DT
JohannaK
Heroically Clueless
It is logic that state properties are sold at invariable prices (non market-regulated prices), even at a little cost, in order to encourage entrepreneurs to settle down, production and consume raising and thus a better well-being for the whole society, as a greater food production will allow greater population levels, which at the same time will work, so all productions will raise and our nation will boost towards greater well-being standards.
The ELPA is not a dictatorship. For starters, senate and house minority leaders still exist, and hold significant power. I never said it was, but I might point out that does not prevent a one-party state being formed.
The ELPA is not warmongering. We advocate for self-defense via a highly-advanced military. And who does not advocate self defence?
The ELPA supports a high standard of living and immigration, and independently-owned-and-run farms support that. Can you provide a logical reason for that?
The ELPA supports industrialisation, and government-funded maintenance projects, so highways and construction projects are desirable. We never claimed roads were undesirable, you have made no mention of other construction. Please explain what this 'highway' is. OOC: Not invented yet.
The ELPA supports economic self-sufficiency, which does not mean government-run business. But it seems to have little idea what their policies will do to the nation, and is planning to implement harmful policies under the pretence of helping.
DT
Troublemaker
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