The Multipolar World (MP)

[Tambien]

Allies don't usually severe communication and embargo each other.

He's embargoing Korea for breaking ties with me, Kongo....

Break all ties, embargo Korea

 

[Sonereal]

I read that completely backwards.

Carry on.

Places embargo on Siberia and Kongo.

 

[Red_Spy]

Not only that, but REDSPIA now selling PBs themselves. Have fun world!

 

[Jehoshua]

Well now.

Korea officially breaks diplomatic ties with: Kongo, Papal States, Partitionania, PUB, & Takrur.

Furthermore, the Catholic Church in Korea no longer pays allegiance or respect to the Pope.
-Nukeknockout

I again note that our response to a Takrurian statement was in regards to a hypothetical use of PBs where we states hypothetically would be reasonable from a realist point of view under the presumption that our moral position was already established. This however was not indicative of actual support rather than merely being a theoretical commentary on what we supposed was a hypothetical pondering from Takrur, although we admit it was perhaps naive of us to think it was a mere hypothetical, for a "worst comes to worst situation".

When it came to pass however that the hypothetical was not so much a vague thought but a real plan we notified the pact we would be required to leave, but unwilling to completely severe off lest we appear as wishy-washy alies we announced our intent to rejoin once proper repentances for any use of PB's were made and to (as previously known) provide all support that it was possible in our moral confines to give. Naturally in regards to proper repentances, those repentances would of included total disarmament of a nuclear arsenal, a restoration of lands to affected nations, war reparations and commitment not to construct PB's again.

As such Mongola again divorces our statements within the pact from their context, which is the entire position of the Holy See and the Church on matters moral and temporal. As such Korea's actions, although not unsurprising are once again based on a false presumption that we actually supported the nuclear barrage. This is totally false, as our departure from the pact, and our previous constant opposition to nukes also reveals.

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As to the state violating the freedom of the Church, a small minority, in Korea. We are confident that the faithful will continue to uphold their faith despite the oppressions of their nations totalitarian regime and its "Patriotic Korean Catholic Church". Needless to say we will consider all possibilities when it comes to action against the Korean State and it tyrannical leaders.

 

[Tambien]

I read that completely backwards.

Carry on.

Places embargo on Siberia and Kongo.

Embargoes Somalia(?)

 

[Red_Spy]

I have a question for the Papal States. If you are such a just and moral nation, why did you let millions of people die? It may just be hypothetical, but I did post several things that said I was going to that if the war happened, then I told everyone to prepare for a war starting next turn. I am honestly surprised no one put the two and two together, but this all seems odd for the Papal States.

Even if you think it is hypothetical, is it right and just to let the possibility of that even happen?

 

[Jehoshua]

The Papal States could not prevent such a thing from occuring. Once it was clear that you intended and had your mind set to engaging in a pre-emptive nuclear war as compared to merely thinking on what you would do should a war hypothetically emerge from the Comintern, nothing we could of done would of prevented such an exchange from occuring as did occur. If we had entered the war on the side of comintern the exchange would still of occured with possibly more deaths, if we entered on your side the exchange would still of occured also and we would be materially co-operating with partitionias sinful actions.

All we could do was acknolwedge and proclaim our opposition to nuclear exchanges, which has been our consistent position and which we did publicly once yoru course was clear, and pray that reason would prevail, while making it clear we would work with the WP in those ways which the papal states was able, in acknowledgement of our association and to make it clear we are not fairweather allies. Thus the Papal States decided that, in regards to its own national actions, the only course proper in terms of action was to remain neutral, and prepare for the time after the exchange when the world would need more than ever our assistance in rebuilding, and in securing a more peaceful order.

 

[Red_Spy]

How about alert the UN like I did?

 

[Jehoshua]

The Holy See is an ancient institution, we think in terms of decades and centuries and modern instutions Im afraid to say often overlooked.

Ergo, it didn't come to our mind to engage in such a course of action at the time.

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ooc: I tend to act and think in the confines of a relationship between players and myself. Ergo things like the UN really don't figure much in my thoughts as compared to doing what I did do, which was to set the papal states up to be in a good position to create a better order after the chaos I figured I could not prevent. The UN didn't even come to my mind, an oversight which now that you point out I could of acted through it may be corrected.

 

[Mosher]

I think that the Pope should just admit that he is a hypocrite and stop denying it.

 

[Jehoshua]

The Papal States would expect no other statement from an infidel who has already attempted to slander the Holy See with leakes statements that are divorced from their broader context and which are tailored for misinterpretation.

Angola in discussions around a non-aggression pact between the Comintern and the Papal States I add was the most vehement in opposition against it on the basis of its godlessness. Although fortunately the other states [in the Comintern] trumped its opposition and the pact came through. Mongola we expect, following the trends of Korea in leaning towards totalitarianism in situations as its currently in, is even more rabid in its anti-catholic, anti religion stances than its father state was.

 

[Red_Spy]

Ignore this, I made a fail.

 

[Jehoshua]

~ The Papal States acknowledges Red Spy's fail.

 

[Tani Coyote]

Orders lock in ~24 hours. As pleasant as the wedding was, I will soon be back in my humble abode and shall resume my diabolical, sadistic ways.

This message brought to you by the Lord Iblis. Blood for the Blood God, Skulls for the Skull Throne, Chaos for the Chaos Storm.™

 

[Dem Taqat]

*Looks at the Crazy*



*Is glad it's not directed at PUB*

*Ignores*

DT

 

[mayor]

Orders lock in ~24 hours. As pleasant as the wedding was, I will soon be back in my humble abode and shall resume my diabolical, sadistic ways.

This message brought to you by the Lord Iblis. Blood for the Blood God, Skulls for the Skull Throne, Chaos for the Chaos Storm.™

And here I thought this wedding would reduce your diabolical, sadistic ways a bit.. you know; love, hugs and kisses and all that

anyway, orders coming up

EDIT: You know what I'm missing? The sheet with NPC values...

 

[Mosher]

The Papal States would expect no other statement from an infidel who has already attempted to slander the Holy See with leakes statements that are divorced from their broader context and which are tailored for misinterpretation.

Angola in discussions around a non-aggression pact between the Comintern and the Papal States I add was the most vehement in opposition against it on the basis of its godlessness. Although fortunately the other states [in the Comintern] trumped its opposition and the pact came through. Mongola we expect, following the trends of Korea in leaning towards totalitarianism in situations as its currently in, is even more rabid in its anti-catholic, anti religion stances than its father state was.

The democratic institutions remain intact in Mongola - and they will remain there forevermore. The Papal States, on the other hand... rulers ruling till their death with complete control over their nation? And you're calling me totalitarian?

The Mongolan government is vehemently secular; we do not influence the religion of our people in any way, shape, or form.

 

[mayor]

The Papal States would expect no other statement from an infidel who has already attempted to slander the Holy See with leakes statements that are divorced from their broader context and which are tailored for misinterpretation.

Angola in discussions around a non-aggression pact between the Comintern and the Papal States I add was the most vehement in opposition against it on the basis of its godlessness. Although fortunately the other states [in the Comintern] trumped its opposition and the pact came through. Mongola we expect, following the trends of Korea in leaning towards totalitarianism in situations as its currently in, is even more rabid in its anti-catholic, anti religion stances than its father state was.

wait.. what did I do?

 

[Jehoshua]

This was before you even joined the Comintern. You were still a part of that alliance JoanK started when this dialogue I speak of occured.

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The democratic institutions remain intact in Mongola - and they will remain there forevermore. The Mongolan government is vehemently secular; we do not influence the religion of our people in any way, shape, or form.

These words were proclaimed by nation called the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea that existed before the calamity about itself. Records from the period however inform us that it was neither democratic, nor did it refrain from interference with religious affairs, instead enforcing in its "secular" regime atheism on the people, under pain of extreme persecution. Mongola perhaps is travelling along a similar path, or at least is leaning towards such a tyranny of secularism. Its predecessor government under the facade of secularism as revealed in those negotiations many years ago was virulently atheist in mentality, although hopefully not in temporal action, as previously mentioned in our comments regarding the negotiations for that particular non-agression pact that exists between the papal states and the Comintern.

Oh Incidentally the DPRK regimes successor state has returned to its predecessors old habits of interfering in religion, although it is not yet so villainous as that nation was in its day.

Finally we lament that Mongola cannot make a distinction between autocracy and tyranny, and associates democracy with liberty. A democratic regime is perfectly capable of tyranny just as on the converse an autocratic regime, or in the papal states an absolute theocratic monarchy which upholds the principles of subsidiarity in sub-nation governance is perfectly capable of upholding the just liberties of its people.

 

[Mosher]

This was before you even joined the Comintern. You were still a part of that alliance JoanK started when this dialogue I speak of occured.

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These words were proclaimed by nation called the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea that existed before the calamity about itself. Records from the period however inform us that it was neither democratic, nor did it refrain from interference with religious affairs, instead enforcing in its "secular" regime atheism on the people, under pain of extreme persecution. Mongola perhaps is travelling along a similar path, or at least is leaning towards such a tyranny of secularism. Its predecessor government under the facade of secularism as revealed in those negotiations many years ago was virulently atheist in mentality, although hopefully not in temporal action, as previously mentioned in our comments regarding the negotiations for that particular non-agression pact that exists between the papal states and the Comintern.

Oh Incidentally the DPRK regimes successor state has returned to its predecessors old habits of interfering in religion, although it is not yet so villainous as that nation was in its day.

Finally we lament that Mongola cannot make a distinction between autocracy and tyranny, and associates democracy with liberty. A democratic regime is perfectly capable of tyranny just as on the converse an autocratic regime, or in the papal states an absolute theocratic monarchy which upholds the principles of subsidiarity in sub-nation governance is perfectly capable of upholding the just liberties of its people.

For one, I accepted the non-aggression pact. I only refused further relations with the Papal States because it would betray the secularism of the Angolan states. Not to mention that that was an entirely different regime.

I do not think that a totalitarian theistic regime can be lecturing a democratic nation about the differences between democracy and liberty.