The Music Thread

You're going for a Blade Runner type future with all the rainy digital sound of Hong Kong Express T e l e p a t h and Subaeris.
Still I think they are both good fits and would work. I give them five stars.
Sim City 3000k music seems pretty good as well, they get four stars from me.
If any tracks from Beyond Earth are used I would recommend the more ambient tracks, ie. the ones labelled ambient (go figure)!
 
You're going for a Blade Runner type future with all the rainy digital sound of Hong Kong Express T e l e p a t h and Subaeris.
Still I think they are both good fits and would work. I give them five stars.
Sim City 3000k music seems pretty good as well, they get four stars from me.
If any tracks from Beyond Earth are used I would recommend the more ambient tracks, ie. the ones labelled ambient (go figure)!

I was listening to beyond earth today and some of them,were very,moving. I personally thought arid 4 might be a good fit. What do you think?

I guess it is more blade runner ish, in glad you liked them :). I often find my,modern games to,get quite bleak with the global warming and ai nuking each other.
 
Yeah I think the arid ambient would work well. Need a bit of dry to balance off all that rain from the other tracks!
If the Pre-Columbian module music gets approval I think the civ 2 & civ 3 tracks you picked would be good (plus they bring back so many memories for me)!
C2C uses some Civ 2 music (such as the primeval tune) in their soundtrack and it seemed to work.
 
I have thought about an African package as well.. the problem with that is that I could see that disrupting the religion based soundtrack system as Sub Saharan African nations are Catholic, Orthodox, or Muslim.
I just saw this comment, music can also be region based (and it currently is in part, for example East Asian Buddhists get the East Asian soundtrack otherwise reserved for Confucian and Taoist civs, and only other Buddhists share the South Asian soundtrack with Hindus). So the African soundtrack could be used for African civs before they adopt a religion, or even after they do. Currently Ethiopia and Congo start without a religion, but once further African civilisations are added this number could increase.
 
I just saw this comment, music can also be region based (and it currently is in part, for example East Asian Buddhists get the East Asian soundtrack otherwise reserved for Confucian and Taoist civs, and only other Buddhists share the South Asian soundtrack with Hindus). So the African soundtrack could be used for African civs before they adopt a religion, or even after they do. Currently Ethiopia and Congo start without a religion, but once further African civilisations are added this number could increase.

That is good news!
I guess that means the same thing could be done for New World Civs.
In both cases in may be good if the music changed upon religious conversion.
As for music suggestions this one original Civ IV song comes to my mind, as I don't think its used in DOC

One difficulty I immediately find is that many potential songs use singing.
I like this one, because it seems softer in singing than the others. and because I have never seen the instruments used before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muKYuDVs_kk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4i0ylqm-vE&list=PLZoXZsPQAES0QIDTkyRgcUhO8bwrK7TaX&index=7
https://youtu.be/t1cnU18982s

Here is I think an authentic war chant that I don't think would be too distracting

While I generally look for completely authentic music, there might need to be some compromises to get a more instrumental type.

Glad you finally found the comment :)

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It appears the African Classical Music Ensemble has many good candidates to include. They use a mix of modern sounds and traditional African instruments such as the Grotis, and should be civ appropriate.
 
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Yeah I think the arid ambient would work well. Need a bit of dry to balance off all that rain from the other tracks!
If the Pre-Columbian module music gets approval I think the civ 2 & civ 3 tracks you picked would be good (plus they bring back so many memories for me)!
C2C uses some Civ 2 music (such as the primeval tune) in their soundtrack and it seemed to work.

Haha, Yea I imagine everything will get every wet... especially with the global warming haha, and now it can get dry too!

What other Civ 2 songs does C2C use?
 
For the digital era music again I am thinking about using the first song from this Post-Soviet opera- the theme of which is about a 'happy future' where the Soviet Economy becomes automated and actually succeeds but the AI called OGAS then ruins everything by attacking the west due to the logic reasons- kinda like Skynet "I must protect my brand of humanity by attacking the others".
 
What other Civ 2 songs does C2C use?

Now I think about it I only remember the Primieval track. However I only played in the prehistoric era, so there may have been more later. I stopped playing C2C as it was taking up time I could have been using to play DOC!
 
@EdmundIronside haha DOC, is actually the only way I really play civ now- I've almost forgotten everything else- like a dream

When I think about it, it may be better to have some semi-electronic but still orchestra pieces in the digital soundtrack,
but I still can't resist the temptation to piggy back to 90's games for this possible soundtrack.

Speaking of old soundtracks and dreams has anyone else thought of using the old Alpha Centurai Soundtrack?
 
Er, dont we have to worry about copyright issues?
Ive even seen vanilla gameplay videos go down from youtube due to music copyright issues, and I wouldnt want to see the same happen to DoC vids (although there arent that many of those tbh)
 
Er, dont we have to worry about copyright issues?
Ive even seen vanilla gameplay videos go down from youtube due to music copyright issues, and I wouldnt want to see the same happen to DoC vids (although there arent that many of those tbh)
They would have to turn music off I suppose and use generic civ, iv music.

The existing music modules however, do already use copywrited music.
 
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I'm going to break four years of silence (because I just came back to check on this mod this week) and say that it really bugs me how the medieval soundtrack is almost entirely Gregorian chant plus one or two instrumentals and some random Giovanni Palestrina polyphonic masses (16th century pieces, mind you) and the moment you hit the Renaissance it becomes entirely Bach, Beethoven and Mozart, skipping straight through the entire late Renaissance and almost all of the Baroque period. Mozart and Beethoven aren't even Baroque composers!

If we want disobey copyright laws, I own some Lully, Monteverdi, and assorted lute music (played on guitar, I admit) CDs and I'd be happy to provide. If not, I'm willing to go digging on wikimedia commons or something. But I'd really like not to skip from 11th century chants to Bach with only a few Palestrina chorals in between.
 
Use this music for an menu music (Or just an soundtrack for an Industrial Era)
This is a good musical piece yet, the industrial era track is all historical classical harmonies. I'll leave it to others to discuss what the menu music should be.

I know I have suggested some 'game' music for the digital soundtrack because I think forboding/electronic sounds within reason suite the scene. Classical music has also evolved into the present but I am also not sure how it suits the feel of the 21st century. That is why I recently suggested using music from a famous Russia opera because the way the digitalized sounds are presented still follow some kind of musical theory. I still like the basic premise of using 'classical music' as much as possible. I think one of my reasons for all my proposals, however, has been to try to define what 'classical music' actually means for nonwestern cultures or for instrumental music which is being made in our time (and the hypothetical future). For some civilizations, this is clear cut for East Asia all of the historical nations had their own brand of official music- with Chinese Classical Music in particular still evolving while the middle east in clear reliance on Iranian and even Al Andalusian traditions (to best of my knowledge). South Asia has a very rich tradition but at least to me its confusing to track down the names of their great works- and their soundtrack seems appropriate and very long already.

One can raise the question did Sub Saharan Africa and the New World have their own 'classical music', I am pretty sure if an ancient Mayan or Aztec aristocrat could answer that question they would say yes, but due to lack/or destruction of documentation this is not the easiest to find. Also since the 'tribe' is a part of history and even represented in the game by the first civics one could argue that authentic tribal music also has a place in official music history (which would allow for Bantu and NativeAmerican/First Nations selections). I have to tried to find the best music which are not new age spin offs of historical cultures - with some exceptions. Also, I acknowledge, that despite feeling more and more as a simulator all the time RFC- DOC is still a game and the music should not be too jarring for modern ears. Whatever the music is- its need to be good quality files and to sound good. This is another reason why copywrite restrictions would really damage this effort because much of the historical public domain files I found were taken from 1950s records that just don't have the best sound that they had once enjoyed.

I have listened to a great deal of Civ V music in why much of it feels authentic for certain eras much of it was still specifically composed for that game (except for the European tracks which often did come from historically composed tracks). I certainly don't mean to shoot down your good suggestion Malayan Gamer but in my individual opinion, Civ V seems to have a drastically different feel apart from the earlier civ games. It may be best included as an optional menu track.

In my suggestions, I tried to follow Steb's model of expanding on what was 'official' music that represented different parts of history. For the most part- popular music (even older kinds such as sea shanties) were mostly avoided.

Of course its up to Loreth to make the final decisions. I haven't gotten to create a pull request for expanded music modules. Ideally, it will propose a new digital era soundtrack, a new classical era soundtrack, a new Precolumbian Music soundtrack, additions to East Asia's music and some add ons to the Middle East and (maybe) Medieval Europe. I could so easily get carried away with my wishlist so I am trying to contain myself here. I have to make sure that it dosen't get to be more than 1GB as it very easily could accumulate. I also don't want Loreth to say 'this is way too much' and turn it down as a consequence

Ideally, I think my proposals should be linked up with the Global Era music module which was uploaded by Steb about a year ago.
 
Reviewing the original post here (it has been some time) I now think the Digital Soundtrack should remain John Adams, with some classical additions.
That would be classically consistent. The more I think about it, maybe the techno feel just doesn't go quite right with DOC.... unless the techno music would appear after all techs have been discovered (surreal) but that wouldn't happen except for a few civs or for players that played far beyond the end date (like Khemer until 2200
 
To add a civ to an era, (and therefore a certain musical track) do I go to leaderheads infos?
EDIT: I am making a NEW_WORLD category in the era infos, but what do I do to attach civilizations (or leader heads) to that particular era?
 
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It's in the DLL (CvPlayer::getSoundtrackEra()), but it's also largely religion based only. The exception are east Asian civs receiving Confucian music with Buddhism.
 
Also,
I can't remember, have the soundtracks from the official BTS mod Final Frontier been incorporated into the soundtrack? I think they would do well there.
 
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