The NRA Finally Responds With Its "Meaningful Contributions"
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kochman
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Don't forget the race war the top brass of the US Military is planning.
Thanks for pointing that out to us all... some might say that smacks of paranoia, even an irrational fear... or a rampant phobia of the military.
Formaldehyde
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"Some" are willing to say just about anything to rationalize and defend all sorts of reprehensible acts. After a while, it even becomes expected. It speaks volumes that DADT was actually seen as a big step forward in how the military persecuted homosexuals, for instance. Baby steps.
And it's not surprising at all that you are once again creating an absurd straw man of my actual opinions. That too has become quite expected.
And it's not surprising at all that you are once again creating an absurd straw man of my actual opinions. That too has become quite expected.
GhostWriter16
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DADT was a step forward. Are you denying that it was better than what came before it?
kochman
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Well, you said it... the military top brass turns a blind eye to overt racism.
That means they agree with it, does it not?
Can you reply without falling back on such awesome nettisms as "strawman" and the excessive and unnecessary use of "quotation marks", it just makes what you write look stupid and shows that you're sarcasm is weak enough you incessantly and overtly have to emphasize it. Try writing more creatively.
Formaldehyde
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Again, absolutely. Civil rights in the US have invariably been a similar struggle of baby steps. Take how the Republicans in Congress still refuse to protect sexual orientation the same way that race, gender, and handicapped are now protected, for instance.DADT was a step forward. Are you denying that it was better than what came before it?
And since you and many others don't openly speak out against it, that means that you are really no different than those who still vehemently oppose treating them like fellow human beings. Once you reach the age where you can vote and help to elect these homophobic bigots into office, you will be playing an even greater role.
Formaldehyde
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Actually, I have stated just the opposite numerous times in this forum. They certainly used to many decades ago, but they obviously don't anymore.
So claiming that I "said it" about the current military leaders, many of whom are now actually black, is just yet another absurd straw man and even a lie.
GhostWriter16
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I'm pretty sure I have stated opposition to DADT and support for allowing gay people to serve openly in the military. It is true that I had a different position back in 2010, but I have since revoked that position.
That it isn't my #1 issue does not mean I disagree with you.
It is unlikely that I will be helping to elect those "Homophobic bigots" into office. I refuse to vote for warmongerers. That rules out most Republicans. And most Democrats, for that matter.
I suspect I'll spend most of my life voting third party.
Which means I won't be helping anyone get into office
Ziggy Stardust
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Not really. What you're going through at the moment is a phase in your life where you are looking for your identity. You wish to find out your position in the world and how you as an individual react to it. As a result, you will align with an, in your mind, misunderstood small group of people who are rallying against 'the establishment'. You will make an emotional connection to that small group of people in because they represent the struggles a teenager goes through when dealing with authorities.
I heard that from Dr. Phil.
Dr. Phil is amazing. Generational cycles indeed!
A small group of people once succeeded in making a society that was based on limited government, federalism, and individual rights.
They have been roundly mocked and ridiculed to this day.
Has anyone on this thread linked to the NRA website yet? Perhaps there are nuggets of debate on there somewhere. I'll provide the link in spoilers so nobody accidently clicks on it.
Spoiler :
Ziggy Stardust
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America?
You aren't going to get me into the Olive Branch thread over my sig.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
That is one nice looking site.
You can say about the NRA what you like but they do employ excellent graphic web designers.
Ugnnn, the NRA website has a Fox-News like news ticker scrolling on the bottom and general layout.
Not exactly reaching across the aisle stylewise. But it does look sharp ya. Had to click on the classic layout button before I got a headache.
Not exactly reaching across the aisle stylewise. But it does look sharp ya. Had to click on the classic layout button before I got a headache.
And rightly so too for being a bit of selfish loonies more interested in their own wealth preservation than the general welfare of their citizens.
Formaldehyde
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Again, my advice is to not pay any attention to Fox News and the other reactionary hate sites like the NRA. Their incessant "mocking" and "ridicule" really isn't important at all except to those who have the same biases and preconceived notions.
But I do appreciate your support for most everybody but the Tea Party and the Republican Party. They claim to support "limited government", but that has been shown to be anything but the truth.
And Dr. Phil was great in Scary Movie 4. Whoever expected him to publicly admit what most everybody already knew about him.
Ziggy Stardust
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I agree it's tacky and awful, but very well done tacky and awful. It's like the Manchego of cheeze.
edit: By the way, still no idea who the small group of people is.
The American colonies of course. No one thought they could beat the British Empire and break free.
GW's sentiments for 3rd party candidates might not be something he grows out of if the Republicans and Democrats continue to mismanage the U.S. into oblivion.
The Republican Party is already showing signs of fracturing between the religious and fiscal elements.
The Democrats divide and conquer strategies continue to be solid success stories. No one judges them by their results.
I was shocked when they extended that freedom to their slaves.
Thats because they didn't
The Dutch, Spanish and French fought the British to a virtual standstill.
