It's stupid to spell the word correctly? Okay, from this point on I shall spell America 'Amaireeka.'
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Ulyaoth
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I haven't watched the movie in a while but I'm pretty sure I got the idea Ra thought he was being impersonated by Daniel. What with all the people being scared of him with the thing on and worshiping and taking care of him.
And Independence Day was a satire making fun of other sci fi movies where humans beat aliens. It just won't happen. Any beings capable of reaching us will have the capability of destroying us no matter what.
And I remember hearing once about how really American English is closer to the original language from us just having decided on our spellings with Webster but the British in the Romantic period of literature deciding to fancy up the language by changing spellings and adding the 'u's and making theater theatre and such. Besides, British English is just unarguably wrong, you spell jail 'gaol' for Christ's sake.
And Independence Day was a satire making fun of other sci fi movies where humans beat aliens. It just won't happen. Any beings capable of reaching us will have the capability of destroying us no matter what.
And I remember hearing once about how really American English is closer to the original language from us just having decided on our spellings with Webster but the British in the Romantic period of literature deciding to fancy up the language by changing spellings and adding the 'u's and making theater theatre and such. Besides, British English is just unarguably wrong, you spell jail 'gaol' for Christ's sake.
Gilder
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Wasn't that Mars Attacks?
Ulyaoth
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I've heard ID was supposed to be a satire too. I don't really get it since it came off way too serious so if it was they did a bad job of making that known, but still.
It's hinted at, but not very well. As I said, there's only one line in the film that actually even leads you in that direction. It's much easier to see Ra bringing Daniel back to life as simple gloating. I got it the second or third time I watched the fim, but missed it completely the first time.
I wish Independence Day was a satire. It's satirical, but not intentionally. It's like an unintentional GalaxyQuest; ID4 is a film that's not meant to be funny, but is actually hilariously bad.
And there are instances in which we could beat aliens. District 9 is a good case of one such situation. The War of the Worlds isn't, becuase surely they'd get their vaccinations for th common cold before they travelled here to murder us.
Now that's rasist. And full of crap, I might add. British English was actually extremely simplified upon its standardisation, not fancied up at all.
Nah, they intended it seriously, and said as much. Gilder's right, Mars Attacks was the satire.
Ulyaoth
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I don't see what bringing Daniel back to life has to do with him impersonating him or anything. Why would he bring him back if he thought he was impersonating him?
I've been told ID was supposed to be a satire. I don't fully see it being purposely done, but that's what I was told.
It's just a theory I heard, regardless, my last statement on that matter still stands.
I've been told ID was supposed to be a satire. I don't fully see it being purposely done, but that's what I was told.
It's just a theory I heard, regardless, my last statement on that matter still stands.
To make Daniel execute his friends with Ra watching, as proof that A) they weren't the same person, and B) he was more powerful than Daniel.
Then your final statement is wrong, and the people who told you don't know what you're talking about, as the creators themselves acknowledge - including in the film's audio commentary - that it was a serious action film. They even intended it to be the start of a trilogy at one point, after they - or rather, MGM - decided against making it a Stargate sequel.
Fr8monkey
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IDK. In Independance Day, I liked the fact that if you had any knowledge on how to fly a plane, you could learn to pilot an F-15.
Not to mention alien spacecraft.IDK. In Independance Day, I liked the fact that if you had any knowledge on how to fly a plane, you could learn to pilot an F-15.
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The War of the Worlds works so much better in its original context, the modernized versions are horrible, especially the ones with them being here before us. If you put your mind into that of a 19th century connoisseur it works much better. The original works better because there were no indication of them ever being to Earth before so they would have no knowledge of bacteria here. Plus their world was dying they were in a rush.
Ulyaoth
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The original book had them having been planning for hundreds of years as well. I've only seen the latest movie and I don't remember anything of them being here before us.
The original book had them desperate to survive. After they failed to invade Earth, they actually went to Venus within a few years, they were so desperate. The original film had them planning for a long period of time. And how could you possibly watch the new film - not nearly as bad as I thought it would be, to be honest - without noticing that the alien ships had been underneath the Earth's surface since before the human race existed? It was an extremely annoying plot point.
The book is awesome. It's so thoroughly British. None of our weapons are working, and the alien is going after the civilians? What do we do? Let's ram the bastard! It's not an uncommon method of stopping the unstoppable enemy, but the way it's written just makes it seem so, well, British. Too bad tht technological development meant the book could never be made into a film without wholesale changes. A battleship ramming a tripod would be an excellent visual.
Ulyaoth
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I vaguely remember something about Venus in the book, but I do think I remember the main guy saying that they must have been planning for hundreds of years the invasion. Weren't they dug up in the book too? I thought they were digging a subway or something and came across that first pod?
About the movie, don't remember it really, other than how awful it was. And how I remember accidentally watching some kind of public station with some fat guy talking about how he was vaporized in the initial attack scene in it.
About the book again, yeah, it was awesome, but didn't the battleships also shoot one to death? Blasted the capsule of the tripod with the cannons of a dreadnought? I have to agree though, a movie set in the original setting with the battleships attacking the tripods would be awesome, my favorite part of the book.
About the movie, don't remember it really, other than how awful it was. And how I remember accidentally watching some kind of public station with some fat guy talking about how he was vaporized in the initial attack scene in it.
About the book again, yeah, it was awesome, but didn't the battleships also shoot one to death? Blasted the capsule of the tripod with the cannons of a dreadnought? I have to agree though, a movie set in the original setting with the battleships attacking the tripods would be awesome, my favorite part of the book.
Nope, they came down as meteors, just like in the first film. In Reign of Fire they found the first dragon in a mine, you might be thinking of that. Or the first X-Files film. Or the many other sources where they find stuff like that.
The Venus mention is at the very end of the book. Some astronomers notice the Martians signalling home from Venus in the same way they'd signalled from Earth.
It actually wasn't a bad disaster film. Terrible science fiction, but not a bad disaster film. Of course, most disaster films suck harder then a Hoover, so it didn't really have a high bar.
It was artillery that took out the first tripod, which is why they started using the "black fog" (poison gas). The battleships cannons slowed it down, but couldn't take it out, so they rammed the bastard when it tried to get at the civilians. Killed themselves in the process, but they took it out, and scared its partner into climbing back onto shore. Also my favourite part of the book. I'd love to see that on film.
MagisterCultuum
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I recall from when I was a child and they only used laughing gas to dull the pain that it was quite painful. Laughing gas never made anything less painful for me, it just made me feel like I was falling and made things sound more alien. Novocain works much better.
When I got fillings in 3 of my wisdom teeth on the Monday before last it was painless. Well, the shots in the gums to numb the nerves hurt slightly at first, but that was quite minor and very brief. The light used to help the fillings harden faster was more uncomfortable than the drill, although drilling that close to the ears was rather loud, and I could feel my whole skull vibrating when they did the upper wisdom teeth.
(Unfortunately I think they missed the main cavity in the upper left wisdom tooth. The right wisdom teeth haven't bothered me at all since getting the fillings, but the left one has been at least a little more sensitive to sweet and cold than it was before. Maybe it's referred pain from the one tooth they did not fill though. The one below it started feeling sensitive on the day of that appointment, but the dentist said it didn't look like a real cavity yet but what could easily become one if I'm not careful.)
IDK. In Independance Day, I liked the fact that if you had any knowledge on how to fly a plane, you could learn to pilot an F-15.
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