The Questions not worth their own thread thread VII

[Gilder]

Why is Independence Day considered a bad film by so many critics?

It made Lone Starr President of the United States. You simply can't take it seriously.

 

[kulade]

why is independence day considered a bad film by so many critics?

WELCOME TO ERF!!!!

 

[SG-17]

Its a good film. Its not great, but its not really bad either.

 

[Cutlass]

That's not what critics look at

 

[SG-17]

I looked up the Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes scores and I am surprised that it got higher ratings than Stargate. Independence Day got in the 60% area and Stargate in the upper 40%.
Very strange, considering that ID4 was originally intended to be a sequel to Stargate.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

Human computer viruses can make alien supercomputers crash. Good movie alright.

 

[kulade]

Human computer viruses can make alien supercomputers crash. Good movie alright.

anything is possible on a mac!

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

But I thought Macs had no viruses?

 

[SG-17]

Well the aliens got their hands on an early version of Vista.

 

[kulade]

Well the aliens got their hands on an early version of Vista.

If that were so, they would have never made it to earth.

 

[SG-17]

Yeah sure there were many wild and strange things that happened in the movie, but overall it was still very entertaining.

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

That "tactical nuke" looked way to small to blow up a alien mothership "one fourth the size of the moon".

 

[SG-17]

Well you have to account for secondary explosions caused by the nuke as well.

 

[Lord Baal]

Well you have to account for secondary explosions caused by the nuke as well.

I think the only thing you have to account for in that film is bad script-writing. Stargate SG-1 made fun of it - in response to certain comments by its creators dissing the series - by having Dr Jackson suggest downloading a computer virus into Apophis' fleet. In a very sarcastic manner, implying that it was an incredibly stupid idea. And he was right. Any species capable of interstellar travel on such a massive scale would have a somewhat superior operating system to us. Not to mention defences against nukes.

The Stargate movie isn't that good either. But it is not, in my opinion, nearly as bad as ID4. Stargate's main problems revolved around expecting the audience to have more knowledge than they possibly could have. Such as Ra thinking that Daniel was impersonating him, all due to a necklace. How many people watching the film would actually have picked up that that was why Ra brought Daniel back to life? Then there's the question, that if Ra is down to just the one planet - and it is assumed that he is - why does he even need to travel, instead of just staying on his planet all the time? The film does a very poor job of explaining things, and these jumps in logic that probably cause critics to rate it so poorly.

 

[Labtec600]

Why the hell is there salmon flavored cream cheese? What is that used for? Apparently there has to be enough of a demand for it if it's going to be massed produced, but who is using it and for what?

 

[SG-17]

I think the only thing you have to account for in that film is bad script-writing. Stargate SG-1 made fun of it - in response to certain comments by its creators dissing the series - by having Dr Jackson suggest downloading a computer virus into Apophis' fleet. In a very sarcastic manner, implying that it was an incredibly stupid idea. And he was right. Any species capable of interstellar travel on such a massive scale would have a somewhat superior operating system to us. Not to mention defences against nukes.

Lest not forget that these aliens had conquers dozens if not hundreds of other worlds before. They probably had no one oppose them in such a manner before and their egos were probably as big as a System Lord's. So a nuke working becomes more plausible.

The Stargate movie isn't that good either. But it is not, in my opinion, nearly as bad as ID4. Stargate's main problems revolved around expecting the audience to have more knowledge than they possibly could have. Such as Ra thinking that Daniel was impersonating him, all due to a necklace. How many people watching the film would actually have picked up that that was why Ra brought Daniel back to life? Then there's the question, that if Ra is down to just the one planet - and it is assumed that he is - why does he even need to travel, instead of just staying on his planet all the time? The film does a very poor job of explaining things, and these jumps in logic that probably cause critics to rate it so poorly.

I got the impression that he was actually curious about Daniel than anything. Ra probably recognized that Daniel was from Earth and wanted to question him to see the prospects or reconquering it.

 

[Ulyaoth]

I don't need to look it up. Or accept illiterate internet slang either, thanks.

You guys spell color with a u in it, you have no right to chastise people's spelling.

 

[Gilder]

You guys spell color with a u in it, you have no right to chastise people's spelling.

You do realize that was the original spelling, right?

 

[Ulyaoth]

Doesn't matter it's still stupid.

 

[Lord Baal]

Lest not forget that these aliens had conquers dozens if not hundreds of other worlds before. They probably had no one oppose them in such a manner before and their egos were probably as big as a System Lord's. So a nuke working becomes more plausible.

Any species that conquers dozens of worlds builds up some decent tactical knowledge. After 50 years of stuying humanity in preparation for the invasion, they would doubtless have been prepared for an infiltration attempt. Arrogance is one thing, stupidity is another. Their military leaders could never have conquered dozens of planets without an appreciation for defence. And even if they managed to do that it still doesn't explain the silliness of the virus.

I got the impression that he was actually curious about Daniel than anything. Ra probably recognized that Daniel was from Earth and wanted to question him to see the prospects or reconquering it.

That was my original thought as well. Unfotunately, that's NOT what Devlin says in the commentary. Ra thought Daniel was impersonating him, by the writer's own admission. Too bad that there's nothing in the movie that actually says that, and the only (slight) hint is the line "there can be only one Ra!"

You guys spell color with a u in it, you have no right to chastise people's spelling.

You do realize that was the original spelling, right?

^ This. Bloody colonials.