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@Denyd: What movie is that? I love to use odd quotes from films whnever possible. ;)

On to business in an attempt to cool things off. The SABER incident (our label, please don't get into a rage over using it now) was not about winning at all cost. We found the situation very frustrating, postponing every attempt at warfare on land until marines was a bit annoying to say the least. Asking for a change in the current setup was a bit difficult so what we actually advocated was to drop this game, start a new game with at least one unit in each era capable of amphib landings. our suggestion Archer and LBman. Starting all over again would also give everyone a second chance at the GLH we have in this game. How that ever turned into the "wanting to win at any price" is really beyond me. It was very uncomfortable being at the recieving end of some of the lowest remarks thrown at us. And we did transform into a team of stubborn "rules lawyers" as a result, only willing to discuss game mechanics as the arbitator in any conflict of opinions, just as that was used against us in the heat of battle during the incident.

In this incident there was one thing and one thing only that triggered the chain of events and that was the 1/5 attacking as the 13th unit in a series of attacks. one of two attacks that would let him kill his adversary and survive. there has never been a complaint as to the statistics of the battle series, which unfortunately is used as an argument we are bad losers complaining about. I'm not sure where that came from?

I had a long discussion with Niklas yesteday eveing and feel much happier now. I just wish that 1/5 had not attacked when it did or we would not have had yet another bitter discussion about the BABEs being such bad players and sore losers. We'll continue to do as told, play according to the game mechanics of Civ3. ;) I also told Niklas we do any battles in our turn in a predetermined sequence to avoid discussions about why we did them in that specific order. To paraphrase Niklas "We could tell you our reasoning, but then we'd have to silence you. " There are several sites for potential battles so this is to avoid any questions about sequence.
 
This is definitely one step too far. I'm going to try very hard to stay civil here, but quite frankly I've had quite enough of you guys. If you don't enjoy this game unless you can win easily on your own terms, go play the AI. Cause I'm going to continue doing whatever I can to see you lose, within the rules thank you very much. Bad taste? Oh yes, very much so. Your invasion force was beaten down by an ever so slightly better margin than the average outcome, and you cry cheat? That's simply ridiculous, and bad sportsmanship if I ever saw it.
Seems like there has been some clearing up going on between parties. I do not want to imply you are a cheater, this is only a game anyway and people should take it that way.
Babe's have been getting a beating many a times already. Now the RnG added insult to injury. Next time it better makes sure we also get some luck here.

So, Niklas, don't take my comment as a accusation of being a cheater, thanks.
 
Wotan: Check out Princess Bride - It's a great movie, with a great cast (including Andre the Giant & Billy Crystal) and a great script. There are dozens of great quotes on the IMDB you can check out.

My favorite scene is a battle between two great swordsmen with this dialogue:

Inigo Montoya: You are wonderful.
Man in Black: Thank you; I've worked hard to become so.
Inigo Montoya: I admit it, you are better than I am.
Man in Black: Then why are you smiling?
Inigo Montoya: Because I know something you don't know.
Man in Black: And what is that?
Inigo Montoya: I... am not left-handed.
[Moves his sword to his right hand and gains an advantage]
Man in Black: You are amazing.
Inigo Montoya: I ought to be, after 20 years.
Man in Black: Oh, there's something I ought to tell you.
Inigo Montoya: Tell me.
Man in Black: I'm not left-handed either.
[Moves his sword to his right hand and regains his advantage]
 
I think the whole situation is sorted now and put to rest. Niklas and I had a very good discussion yesterday evening. One thing led to another and the whole thing escalated to a level that was "un-fun". In hindsight I just wish they had not used the 1/5. that was the trigger that started this whole business. Just a small caveat regarding this. I am not trying to reignite anything with thsi atatement.
 
I've received an apology from Wotan, and from my point of view the whole thing is over. I'm glad I was asleep when the last rounds of the discussion were raging. I'm sorry this ever happened, but like Wotan I feel a lot better after our conversation. Now I'm going back to playing the game and killing MWs with damaged units. Wotan didn't leave me with much choice. ;)
 
Whomp: tell me the names of the 2 people you'd like to ask.

And the rest of you: Stay polite. And publicaly calling a team cheaters without rocksolid evidence (something that you as players of a participating team never have without outside intervention) is against (my interpretation of) the forum-rules.
PM the game-admins -or me- if you have doubts of in-game happenings and those will be investigated.
 
*sigh*

What is it with people on Internet forums using "adverse" where "averse" is clearly the right word for the situation? :gripe:

Thank you, I did not know that. :thumbsup:

To paraphrase from one of my favorite movies:

Vizzini(Babe): WE LOST A UNIT? INCONCEIVABLE
Inigo (everyone else): You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means

That was a great movie. I like this part:
Andre knocks on Billy Crystal's door: "Open up, I'm on the Brute Squad."
Billy Crystal opens the door: "On the Brute Squad? You are the Brute Squad!"
 
So if Wotan and Niklas made up does that mean the war is over? :confused:

BTW, I really thought BABE would be happy if we let them land. Still :confused:
 
Whomp, I'm not saying you can ask them. Go ahead if you want to.

Whomp: tell me the names of the 2 people you'd like to ask.

And the rest of you: Stay polite. And publicaly calling a team cheaters without rocksolid evidence (something that you as players of a participating team never have without outside intervention) is against (my interpretation of) the forum-rules.
PM the game-admins -or me- if you have doubts of in-game happenings and those will be investigated.
Don't worry about it. I've completely lost interest in this game and have too much happening over the next three months to spend any energy on this anymore.

Professor Elephantium--thanks for pointing out my poor syntax.
 
Whew – does this mean that our newspaper thread will go back to being just a friendly (if more boring) propaganda news dispensing thread?

Hope so!
On with the fun!
:D

And now… reposted, for those wondering why this thread is called "The RoundTable" !
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Dear Citizens of the World…

On behalf of The Council, I am pleased to present
The Fourth Edition
of this world’s first International Newspaper…


The RoundTable


We hope you enjoy!

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and the ImageShack/TubbyRower version…

disclaimer:
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Disclaimer:
"The RoundTable is published at the sole discretion of advisor to the council, General_W. All opinions are his alone, and do not necessarily reflect the opinion or positions of The Council government. Heck, even the 'facts' in this paper are viewed through his personal lens and may or may not accurately reflect the real or perceived state of world and/or game affairs. This paper may frequently contain what is known as 'sarcasm' and should be taken as it is intended – in fun. Hate mail may be sent to General_W via PM if you wish. General_W reserves the right to laugh uproariously at any hate mail he receives. This paper is not designed to provide up-to-date news, cure any diseases, provide well balanced opinion, or relieve inflammation of the foot. The Council hereby absolves itself from any responsibility from any actions the reader does or does not take based on this 'news' paper."
 
Dear Citizens of the World…

On behalf of The Council, I am pleased to present
The Fifth Edition
of this world’s first International Newspaper…


The RoundTable


We hope you enjoy!

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disclaimer:
Spoiler :

Disclaimer:
"The RoundTable is published at the sole discretion of advisor to the council, General_W. All opinions are his alone, and do not necessarily reflect the opinion or positions of The Council government. Heck, even the 'facts' in this paper are viewed through his personal lens and may or may not accurately reflect the real or perceived state of world and/or game affairs. This paper may frequently contain what is known as 'sarcasm' and should be taken as it is intended – in fun. Hate mail may be sent to General_W via PM if you wish. General_W reserves the right to laugh uproariously at any hate mail he receives. This paper is not designed to provide up-to-date news, cure any diseases, provide well balanced opinion, or relieve inflammation of the foot. The Council hereby absolves itself from any responsibility from any actions the reader does or does not take based on this 'news' paper."
 
I'd like to renew my subscription to the only newspaper in the world please.
 
I had expected you to build the MoM :D

By the way, does anyone else think the civ designers did a rather poor job on the Sistine Chapel wonder screenshot?

(compare)
 
Frankly? The original doesn't look very impressive either...

True, but I find in game it looks like a rather nice looking (marble) building, standing in a square or something, while in reality, it's just a brick building in the middle of a group of buildings. IMO the game makes it look to good.

The ceiling is definitely nice though ;)
 
@Marsden – no problem! You can expect to receive our bill very soon :)

@Dutchfire – I know! I was actually kind of amazed when I visited the Vatican and went to see the Sistine Chapel… not what I was expecting at all. I guess I was expecting a Sistine Cathedral! Anyway – the paintings inside are the amazing part. :)
 
Will you accept a two party out of state bad check?
 
All payments must be in Quattaloos, I'm afraid
:)
 
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