The things we do for love...

[Disgustipated]

Well, this thread is totally not going the way I thought it would go, but I guess that's one way of cooling me down while my friend is asleep already,

I can't think of anything stupid I've done for love. I don't want to get too specific as I like protecting my identity. But I guess it would be sex on somewhat public places. But in a way, that's things I do for lust (though I loved the woman I was lusting for). I say somewhat public, as I've never done things in front of someone else, I would never do that. But I've done things on many hikes out in the wilderness. And in cars...

 

[Manfred Belheim]

And you act like it's totally absurd that I accuse you of hating women.

As a general rule, effect does not precede cause.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

Really? The whole MGTOW movement is so pathetic. Some women can be trustworthy, though most cannot. The same can be said of men. Let's stop with the misogyny. There are women who are worth loving, though most will never be trustworthy, but humans in general are not, and will lie to protect their self interest.

Well it was only a joke, but it seems you agree with half of it anyway, so that's an unexpected result

 

[Disgustipated]

she didn't want us to be a 'thing' if I hadn't gone window shopping yet

heh, sounds familiar. It's a trap.

 

[Ryika]

Really? The whole MGTOW movement is so pathetic. Some women can be trustworthy, though most cannot. The same can be said of men. Let's stop with the misogyny. There are women who are worth loving, though most will never be trustworthy, but humans in general are not, and will lie to protect their self interest.

I think people who are trustworthy gravitate towards other people who are trustworthy. There are some people who lack the intuition to realize that a partner is on the opposite side of the trustworthiness-scale, but I think in general it's true.

So when two trustworthy partners have a relationship for a while and suddenly it turns out one of them wasn't trustworthy after all, then I think the problem is more that people have relationships where they don't put trust into the other's ability to react reasonably to problems, so they keep them to themselves, until there are huge holes in their hearts that open them up to give in to desires that make them become unfaithful partners.

Maybe I'm just too optimistic, but I think there are many people who are trustworthy by default, and more often than not, that state changes because of how the relationship works out, not because of the people themselves.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

So, once this girl I liked talked me into putting the thing from which I urinate into hers (btw, did you guys kow that women have totally a different things for that than men?) and move it around. It wasn't unpleasant, but really weird. She insisted that this is a totally normal thing that all people do.
Women are crazy !

 

[Ryika]

So, once this girl I liked talked me into putting the thing from which I urinate into hers (btw, did you guys kow that women have totally a different things for that than men?) and move it around. It wasn't unpleasant, but really weird. She insisted that this is a totally normal thing that all people do.
Women are crazy !

That's called kissing, and it's indeed very normal.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

So, once this girl I liked talked me into putting the thing from which I urinate into hers (btw, did you guys kow that women have totally a different things for that than men?) and move it around. It wasn't unpleasant, but really weird. She insisted that this is a totally normal thing that all people do.
Women are crazy !

Honestly, you say things like "women are crazy" and expect people not to deduce that you genuinely hate women?

 

[GoodSarmatian]

Honestly, you say things like "women are crazy" and expect people not to deduce that you genuinely hate women?

I don't hate them. I like crazy people if they aren't a danger to themselves or society. Makes life more interesting.

That's called kissing, and it's indeed very normal.

No, I think that's that thing with the lips and the tongue. That's another thing she was into. It was just as weird.

 

[Ryika]

No, I think that's that thing with the lips and the tongue. That's another thing she was into. It was just as weird.

The thing with lips and tongue is called sex, that's really something that you don't just do with people, while kissing you can even do with family members. Trust me I know, my father told me.

 

[Synobun]

heh, sounds familiar. It's a trap. Or in my case, I think it was a test.

Who knew being in a relationship would have more tests than my entire time spent in high school.

It certainly taught me to be more confident in my feelings. I assumed she was right and I was wrong simply because she had adult experience and I didn't. Being a little more stubborn would have saved me a lot of shame (but perhaps not have taught me the necessary lesson).

 

[Lexicus]

I've been waiting to reply to this thread to see if anyone would share a story that actually paints themselves in a negative light but that doesn't seem to be in the cards.

Well, I could tell plenty of stories that paint me in a negative light but I believe those stories have a lot more to do with jealousy, insecurity, vanity, infatuation, than with love.

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

But did those feelings exist because you were looking for love? Dun dun dun.

 

[Gori the Grey]

Like walkin' in the rain and the snow when there's nowhere to go and you're feelin' like a part of you is dyin'?

 

[Lexicus]

But did those feelings exist because you were looking for love? Dun dun dun.

Perhaps. But lust played a role too, and probably a bigger one. I don't think I can say that I've actually ever been "in love with" more than one person, after all. The rest of my "love life" consists of infatuations and pleasurable, fairly stress-free mutual lust-slaking. The problem is you have to have a lot of false starts to come to truly love someone. You have to learn how to do it.

 

[Akka]

Pretty much everything is genetic and/or deterministic beyond your control.

At least it's good to know that if I smash the head of a cheater against a wall, I can say it's because of my genetics and beyond my control.

 

[Ryika]

At least it's good to know that if I smash the head of a cheater against a wall, I can say it's because of my genetics and beyond my control.

That may even be true, we still don't know if we live in a deterministic universe or not. Of course it doesn't change that we have to treat people's actions as if they have control, as otherwise the whole system would just collapse, but it's interesting to see how the definition of "guilt" suddenly makes no sense anymore when the idea of "choice" is dismantled.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

The thing with lips and tongue is called sex, that's really something that you don't just do with people, while kissing you can even do with family members. Trust me I know, my father told me.

So, I did some research and apparently there's this other thing called "oral sex" which is kind of a combination/middle ground ?
It's so great that I, a 36 old man, can still learn new things about the utterly bizzare (and frankly intriguing) behavior some of my fellow humans engage in.
Maybe Leibniz was right when he postulated that we live in "the best of all possible worlds".

 

[Ryika]

So, I did some research and apparently there's this other thing called "oral sex" which is kind of a combination/middle ground ?
It's so great that I, a 36 old man, can still learn new things about the utterly bizzare (and frankly intriguing) behavior some of my fellow humans engage in.
Maybe Leibniz was right when he postulated that we live in "the best of all possible worlds".

Whoa, didn't know you're a grandpa.
Don't know about this thing you're talking about though. Sounds sketchy, because what if the person has to pee?

 

[JollyRoger]

I painted my basement and went negative with the lights.