http://nasawatch.com/archives/2019/06/gao-anticipates.html
Indeed, though as that's now 2 years away, it's tolerable.
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Indeed, though as that's now 2 years away, it's tolerable.
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I guess slow and steady no longer wins the race.
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me helpful today
oh really ı am .
edit: Saw that page in the laptop , from athread elsewhere that ı had saved in '14 or 15 . Went around and discovered the monkey on the moon , too .
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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/17/why-jeff-bezos-spends-billions-on-space-technology.html
Not sure if posted already. Jeff Bezos thinks we can build most of our factories in space.
Not sure if posted already. Jeff Bezos thinks we can build most of our factories in space.
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now , you would all have heard of the S-400 / F-35 stuff , in which New Turkey is "pushed" out of the production . ı had actually the "pleasure" of New Turkey was to buy 130 of them and not 116 , with 100 firm and 16 options and the latter being omitted as a carrot , but then nobody believes New Turkey anyhow . And we have been offered the F-35 , because ı already stopped liking the Su-57 . And naturally ı will now stop liking the Flanker family , which is a "big boy" now and can do without Starfleet caring for them .
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There are rumors that SLS will slip to 2021 with one reputable independent reporter saying he heard it's going to be 2023. 2023 doesn't make a lot of sense as a lot of hardware has already been delivered but 2021 does track, it's something we have all been pretty sure is going to happen.
I agree with him that we should move as much industry as possible off the Earth in order to help protect it. But this is something that will take centuries to complete even if current trends accelerate.
Yeah this was news that would have been front-page stuff but was buried in Trump's latest controversies. The US officially kicked Turkey out of the F-35 program due to them buying Russian anti-aircraft missiles.
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Anyway if Turkey is going to ally with Russia and such it does make little sense to have the F-35. The aircraft is supposed to work inside a "grid" provided by the US and its OTAN allies which provides everything from combat data to supply and maintenance. Without it the F-35 is nothing but a very expensive and troublesome ac, and with pretty mediocre performance btw.
Why, it makes a lot of sense. They can test S-400 effectiveness vs F-35, gather useful data for S-500/600 development!
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the Hour of the Opposition becomes a casualty . For those who don't follow me , this is not the real name of the a hour and a half long segment in the Turkish language variety of the Voice of Russia . The service in itself is mostly pro New Turkey , now that it's New Turkey that lets the contracts and whatnot for Putin and his esteemed bunch of oligarks . But then for some obscure reason Moscow had created the basis for a moment of truth , in which even yours idiotly could listen even to the claims of seperatists , which might involve 9 parts lies and 1 part real issues . It did turn out one little kid sent to throw rocks at one armoured police van was indeed shot dead . Also essential hearing at the height of the Ergenekon Conspiracy , though the hosts have changed over the years . You know , because of S-400s , which is thread relevant , despite the rant and spam and whatnot .
though it's not exactly clear . The Hour had its spinoffs and in one of them , the Little Imperialist was interviewed . And there's the report of some Goverment think tank that named the Hour among the enemies of A-K-P and asked foreign media corporations to shut down these enemies . But it's like a consensus or something that the S-400 debate was the straw that broke the camel's back . In which the host asked luminious names what the purchase was for and some journo was down to declaring America had supplied the seperatists with MANPADS , but stopping short of claiming S-400s could intercept and shoot down the likes of a Stinger . A victim of the Ergenekon Conspiracy (also a retired general once commanding the "Military Intelligence") even claimed Stalin was not aggressive against this country in 1946-7 and it was an American plot . You know , with Stalin asking for bases in the Straits , with Red Army tank divisions in Bulgaria . Because he takes it granted that his credentials and whatnot are glorious and no one knows what happened to the Finns after they refused the demand for bases . This despite Finns were just better varnished Nazis in 1939 and Americans were already employing Nazis in '46 ; but the thing is people expect a response . Also made me understand why the retired general had ever been allowed to become a general and whatnot - by the Americans , naturally . And there will be a response , declaring null and void anything that pertains to territorial integrity due to Soviet times . Oh , this will scare no one , Putin has gloriously made it to "Warm Waters" , he will twice gloriously make this country a colony , with all the "American" generals [of this country] now in his pocket , because the wind blows that way and the grass will bend that way ; but then every single city center that no longer "reports" to Moscow will have a full size potrait of him for 10 years , so that he will remember his success .
as part of the affairs of the world , in which New Turkey was doomed by economic crises , then economic crimes against the West by sanction busting to help Iran , then losing elections , then buying S-400s and now the revelation that EU has been knowing that they paid 4.5 billion Euros for projects to integrate this country and each and every project went to one single company that operated under different names , 400 million Euros distributed as bribes as part of the operations and it will come to be known in October -as some former US Army General declared 1.0 of US-Turkish relations will probably be dead this summer . Because there should be no accidents or something . As NATO plays down the same , Pentagon eats its promises of immediate doom and Trump inviting Republican senate leaders and Congressmen to the White House to make them retract their promises to sink this country on this Tuesday , meaning tomorrow as this is posted , because the new American strategy is to suppress Russian weapon sales and whatnot . And then going to support one .
hereby ı give a response to my [possible] 1000th post , in which ı was referring to some book by some American think tank that saw the future : How A-K-P was anti-semitic and all that jazz and we would have to be punished , but America would be humanitarian and it would only be our unmanned satellites that were destroyed . Accusing nobody of nothing , merely stressing it doesn't work and let's give them their due flakfield , if possible today , if not possible , then tomorrow ... Long overdue ! And yeah , my USB ports are dying alltogether , too . As a Starfleet Admiral am supposed to apologise for the unwanted things ı have caused ; though am also surprised by the demand to prepare an apology for Episode 9 this December or something . Can't tell whether ı will end up declaring Disney Star Wars never happened or this is a plot to get me expect less and enjoy a mediocre film ...
though it's not exactly clear . The Hour had its spinoffs and in one of them , the Little Imperialist was interviewed . And there's the report of some Goverment think tank that named the Hour among the enemies of A-K-P and asked foreign media corporations to shut down these enemies . But it's like a consensus or something that the S-400 debate was the straw that broke the camel's back . In which the host asked luminious names what the purchase was for and some journo was down to declaring America had supplied the seperatists with MANPADS , but stopping short of claiming S-400s could intercept and shoot down the likes of a Stinger . A victim of the Ergenekon Conspiracy (also a retired general once commanding the "Military Intelligence") even claimed Stalin was not aggressive against this country in 1946-7 and it was an American plot . You know , with Stalin asking for bases in the Straits , with Red Army tank divisions in Bulgaria . Because he takes it granted that his credentials and whatnot are glorious and no one knows what happened to the Finns after they refused the demand for bases . This despite Finns were just better varnished Nazis in 1939 and Americans were already employing Nazis in '46 ; but the thing is people expect a response . Also made me understand why the retired general had ever been allowed to become a general and whatnot - by the Americans , naturally . And there will be a response , declaring null and void anything that pertains to territorial integrity due to Soviet times . Oh , this will scare no one , Putin has gloriously made it to "Warm Waters" , he will twice gloriously make this country a colony , with all the "American" generals [of this country] now in his pocket , because the wind blows that way and the grass will bend that way ; but then every single city center that no longer "reports" to Moscow will have a full size potrait of him for 10 years , so that he will remember his success .
as part of the affairs of the world , in which New Turkey was doomed by economic crises , then economic crimes against the West by sanction busting to help Iran , then losing elections , then buying S-400s and now the revelation that EU has been knowing that they paid 4.5 billion Euros for projects to integrate this country and each and every project went to one single company that operated under different names , 400 million Euros distributed as bribes as part of the operations and it will come to be known in October -as some former US Army General declared 1.0 of US-Turkish relations will probably be dead this summer . Because there should be no accidents or something . As NATO plays down the same , Pentagon eats its promises of immediate doom and Trump inviting Republican senate leaders and Congressmen to the White House to make them retract their promises to sink this country on this Tuesday , meaning tomorrow as this is posted , because the new American strategy is to suppress Russian weapon sales and whatnot . And then going to support one .
hereby ı give a response to my [possible] 1000th post , in which ı was referring to some book by some American think tank that saw the future : How A-K-P was anti-semitic and all that jazz and we would have to be punished , but America would be humanitarian and it would only be our unmanned satellites that were destroyed . Accusing nobody of nothing , merely stressing it doesn't work and let's give them their due flakfield , if possible today , if not possible , then tomorrow ... Long overdue ! And yeah , my USB ports are dying alltogether , too . As a Starfleet Admiral am supposed to apologise for the unwanted things ı have caused ; though am also surprised by the demand to prepare an apology for Episode 9 this December or something . Can't tell whether ı will end up declaring Disney Star Wars never happened or this is a plot to get me expect less and enjoy a mediocre film ...
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Chandrayaan-2 is on its way!
The rocket is the GSLV-3 (geostationary launch vehicle 3) which will be launching Indian astronauts in a few years. I'm not sure what they're calling their astronauts; the Russians have Cosmonauts and the Chinese have Taikonauts.
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The rocket over-performed by 15%. They decided to run it to completion which is basically saying they ran it until the fuel ran out. This is very risky as if you are wrong by a tiny amount, the rocket will tear itself apart. This is because the turbopumps that fuel the engines require resistance from the fuel it is pumping to stay balanced. The microsecond a bubble or void appears in the fuel lines and gets into the turbopumps, they tear themselves apart. But, ISRO pulled it off and the rocket did so well that an orbit raising manuever they had planned for the lander to do itself has been called off as unnecessary. Spectacular show India!
The Air Force has launched DSX, toted as the 'biggest' (I say longest) unmanned object in space, due to its extended antennae, via a Falcon Heavy.
The Chinese Private Firm InSpace has launched, a first for China. The payload of their rocket is an assemblage of satellites, one for CCN to be placed in a 300km orbit with a four stage rocket.
The Chinese Private Firm InSpace has launched, a first for China. The payload of their rocket is an assemblage of satellites, one for CCN to be placed in a 300km orbit with a four stage rocket.
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damned USB issues limits reading of current stuff , but ı had Air International of April 2019 . Seems ı have missed out the return of F-117 to combat , in which one got hit or something to make an emergency landing or whatever in 2017 . In true Anglosaxonism this is explained as F-22 being glorious and it should keep its secrets from prying Russian eyes , and not F-35 is late to combat for a decade or so .
also interesting that there's a F-21 now . 'Cause Indians are backward people and can not bring themselves to use the weapons of their enemies , them Pakistanis , so the previously F-16 IN is now a 21 . Which used to be leased Kfirs for dissimilar air combat training . Or more pertinently Block 70s . While the people are most likely to know , these block numbers define a sub group within production , for spares requirements and the like . When the P-47 gained a bubble canopy it should have got a new letter , but P-47D blocks 25 and 30 and whatever still used the same radios and systems and stuff . Similar for F-16s in which Blocks 30 and 40 and 50 are all C/Ds . Because A/Bs are "CAS" , C/Ds are "attack" and E/Fs are long range attack , with a nice Air-to-Air capability . Except 70s predate them all , in a way . You might remember USN operating F-16Ns , lightened for top agility , not usable in combat and the like . Well , Block 70 dates back to 1970s when F-16 was defeated as a carrier plane by the F-17 . Remember 17 and 70 might sound close in English and this would have been a "Not Aluminium" F-16 , more expensive but lighter ; a F-16N for combat . Block 80 was then its attack variant , in case US Lawmakers killed F-17/18 and Marines were to go to sea in Harriers and the rest would have to economise with standart USAF material . Remember this was the time USN was also trying to fight the Soviets closer to Soviet shores ; Block 80s would be overwhelmingly Ds with those conformal tanks and spines , loaded with everything , out from Norway and Japan . There are claims smart Israelis converted the toylike F-16 into a serious warplane . Despite their notions their planes were not improved 30s but 50(-)s , so to speak . It was looked at , but drag and RCS and all seemed prohibitive , a larger airframe was imagined and that also became the Japanese F-2 .
so , why does glorious Lockmart step down ? Gotta be Maverick coming to the big screen once more ; Top Gun will be famous again .
this would have been all for today , but can yours idiotly can ever remain idle ? Changing radio channels yesterday and ı come across a debate . That the S-400 can defend a radius of 400 kilometers is a farce , but hey , you don't know it better than a journalist and so we have no need for air-to-air and we now need a fighter-bomber to kill the seperatists , despite the secretary of interior of the palace cabinet bragging for years that soon there will be no seperatists left alive inside borders ! For that we should get Berkut , Su-47 ! There are only 3 47s that will pass the muster , M-47 because some oldie served in one , C-47 because same for some other oldie and T-47 because it rocks on Hoth . Me adding P-47 , because ı like . Oh , such exciting talk ; who would have known Germany has left the F-35 programme ! For this , ı blame the Stuntwoman , because ı might have been forgotten long ago . Keyboard/USB means ı can't play , my eye (hurts and obviously ı should get new glasses) means ı can't read , there's hardly anything on TV and watching TV makes you fat , ı saw my first white hair on the eyebrows , my teeth hurts , favourite shirt has tears at the neck and can't stand the temptation when this discussion then somehow apparently goes to how the health ministry should fight negative rumours . ı don't know , perhaps the hospital of Bursa , the yearly "rent" of which might pay for an hospital of 600 beds every year ... Let's go and slag them Americans and perhaps ı will have a life . Is this too much to ask ?
also interesting that there's a F-21 now . 'Cause Indians are backward people and can not bring themselves to use the weapons of their enemies , them Pakistanis , so the previously F-16 IN is now a 21 . Which used to be leased Kfirs for dissimilar air combat training . Or more pertinently Block 70s . While the people are most likely to know , these block numbers define a sub group within production , for spares requirements and the like . When the P-47 gained a bubble canopy it should have got a new letter , but P-47D blocks 25 and 30 and whatever still used the same radios and systems and stuff . Similar for F-16s in which Blocks 30 and 40 and 50 are all C/Ds . Because A/Bs are "CAS" , C/Ds are "attack" and E/Fs are long range attack , with a nice Air-to-Air capability . Except 70s predate them all , in a way . You might remember USN operating F-16Ns , lightened for top agility , not usable in combat and the like . Well , Block 70 dates back to 1970s when F-16 was defeated as a carrier plane by the F-17 . Remember 17 and 70 might sound close in English and this would have been a "Not Aluminium" F-16 , more expensive but lighter ; a F-16N for combat . Block 80 was then its attack variant , in case US Lawmakers killed F-17/18 and Marines were to go to sea in Harriers and the rest would have to economise with standart USAF material . Remember this was the time USN was also trying to fight the Soviets closer to Soviet shores ; Block 80s would be overwhelmingly Ds with those conformal tanks and spines , loaded with everything , out from Norway and Japan . There are claims smart Israelis converted the toylike F-16 into a serious warplane . Despite their notions their planes were not improved 30s but 50(-)s , so to speak . It was looked at , but drag and RCS and all seemed prohibitive , a larger airframe was imagined and that also became the Japanese F-2 .
so , why does glorious Lockmart step down ? Gotta be Maverick coming to the big screen once more ; Top Gun will be famous again .
this would have been all for today , but can yours idiotly can ever remain idle ? Changing radio channels yesterday and ı come across a debate . That the S-400 can defend a radius of 400 kilometers is a farce , but hey , you don't know it better than a journalist and so we have no need for air-to-air and we now need a fighter-bomber to kill the seperatists , despite the secretary of interior of the palace cabinet bragging for years that soon there will be no seperatists left alive inside borders ! For that we should get Berkut , Su-47 ! There are only 3 47s that will pass the muster , M-47 because some oldie served in one , C-47 because same for some other oldie and T-47 because it rocks on Hoth . Me adding P-47 , because ı like . Oh , such exciting talk ; who would have known Germany has left the F-35 programme ! For this , ı blame the Stuntwoman , because ı might have been forgotten long ago . Keyboard/USB means ı can't play , my eye (hurts and obviously ı should get new glasses) means ı can't read , there's hardly anything on TV and watching TV makes you fat , ı saw my first white hair on the eyebrows , my teeth hurts , favourite shirt has tears at the neck and can't stand the temptation when this discussion then somehow apparently goes to how the health ministry should fight negative rumours . ı don't know , perhaps the hospital of Bursa , the yearly "rent" of which might pay for an hospital of 600 beds every year ... Let's go and slag them Americans and perhaps ı will have a life . Is this too much to ask ?
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Boeing has refused to bid on the new ICBM contract from the Air Force to replace the aging Minuteman III missiles. They claim that Northrup (which bought Orbital ATK, which bought ATK, which was the biggest solid rocket motor producer left in the country) has such a cost advantage from vertical integration that they couldn't compete. There is only one other solid rocket motor company that can compete in this class of missiles and that's Aerojet Rocketdyne. They partnered with both Northrup and Boeing for this program to hedge their bets but they have said unless they specifically get a big chunk of the work to build motors on this project, they'll likely get out of the solid rocket motor business altogether as Northrup has won all the civil contracts to supply motors for other American rockets.
The Air Force is going to have to play a very active role in how these rockets are designed and built in order to keep the industrial base intact for the future. Consolidation of the industry to the extent that it has already and will continue to consolidate is a bad thing as there are too few players now.
The Air Force is going to have to play a very active role in how these rockets are designed and built in order to keep the industrial base intact for the future. Consolidation of the industry to the extent that it has already and will continue to consolidate is a bad thing as there are too few players now.
Galileo is back up.
Israel and the US tested the Arrow-3 Anti-Ballistic Missile out of Alaska.
"Netanyahu lauds joint operation, saying system successfully intercepted ballistic missiles in space ‘at unprecedented altitudes and speeds’ " but I can't find anything more about that. We got more junk flying around, now?
Israel and the US tested the Arrow-3 Anti-Ballistic Missile out of Alaska.
"Netanyahu lauds joint operation, saying system successfully intercepted ballistic missiles in space ‘at unprecedented altitudes and speeds’ " but I can't find anything more about that. We got more junk flying around, now?
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Not really, they are going to be going only maybe a fraction of orbital velocity and even chunks of debris that pick up sufficient velocity from the impact likely will not be angled in such a way as to achieve a stable orbit. At best you'd wind up with some debris with some apogees high up but with perigees inside the atmosphere or even lower. I imagine most debris would actually lose most velocity overall as they missiles would be coming at each other close to head-on.
For reference, early generation, nuclear-tipped anti-ballistic missiles topped out at around Mach 8-10 which is less than half of what is needed for orbit. I would expect new-generation interceptors to travel significantly slower as they actually have to line up direct impacts (so can't be going as fast as they need time to maneuver) and there are much better radar systems meant to track incoming warheads which give the missiles a longer interception window which means they don't have to accelerate to such crazy speeds. And those old Mach 8+ interceptors were designed around dealing with the heat load of extremely high-speed in-atmosphere flight in a way that is not reflected in current designs although of course there could be stuff the general public can't see but it's kind of doubtful.
I have not studied this extensively though so I could be wrong.
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