The weird cropcircle phenomenon.

[Double Barrel]

I truly believe that 100% of these circles are human originated.

The thing I find hard to believe about "space aliens" is that these "beings" are subject to the same laws of physics in the universe that we are subject to. And the more science learns about these laws, the greater our understanding of how impossible it would be to overcome them. Its not like the laws of physics change if you go 100 light years away from Earth. Its the dynamics of our universe, these basic principles, and, the more we learn, the more we realize that the high improbability of visits from other life forms is darn near impossible. (I'm not say that life doesn't / can't exist somewhere else in the universe, just pointing out that it is unlikely that it would be so far advanced as our imaginations have led us to believe.)

People are going to believe what they want to believe. Heck, it wasnt' that long ago that a common perception was that the Earth was flat and you could "fall off" if you went too far!! Crazy.

 

[smalltalk]

Originally posted by Grille
The complex design just makes me like that artwork.

Yep, and sort of art it is.

Two of the artists:

This is their beautifull website:
http://www.circlemakers.org/

A few examples:

Since when are aliens interested in mystic symbols? Or in business deals?

This is a Mac-Program to design your own crop-circle:
http://www.head-space.com/circlemakers/downloads/circlemaker.sit

 

[thestonesfan]

Who knows? I do think it's entirely possible - if not probable - that aliens have been to earth.

 

[Pongui]

One method I've wanted to try, with the cooperation of some farming relatives, is the pre-layed wire trick. It's like the trick of stitching thread under a banana peel, then pulling the thread to magically slice the banana without peeling it. I like this one because with it the artist creates precise patterns without setting foot in the field. The wires are layed just after seeding. Just remember to draw all the wires out after they've toppled the grain.

 

[Civrules]

Last summer there was a new one in California, so yeah, they are all over the place.

100% Human made - all of them. No doubt.

 

[Grille]

Originally posted by Sean Lindstrom
One method I've wanted to try, with the cooperation of some farming relatives, is the pre-layed wire trick.

I suppose the avarage field size is much bigger over there... make it sizable!


@smalltalk: nice pics!
I *always* knew the aliens come from WEETABIX...

 

[cgannon64]

I don't know - aliens aren't plausible, pranksters aren't plausible for some, and the "mysterious force" theories all seem ridiculous.

I don't know, and frankly, I don't care.

 

[nihilistic]

Originally posted by CivCube
A mathematician has been able to glean several new axioms from them.

Axioms? It only proves that that person is a clown masquerading as a mathematician.

 

[Bamspeedy]

Since when are aliens interested in mystic symbols? Or in business deals?

They also like a good football rivalry:

http://www.fairwynfarms.com/corn_maze.htm

 

[sourboy]

Im not sayin their real but....

many people have asked why aliens would do something so simple if they were capable of doing something more fascinating.

Well think about it. War of the Worlds broadcast some time back and scared the sh!t out of people...with Roswell and all these claimed sightings & abductions, there is obvious fear that could potentially unravel religion & organized society in a short time.

Wouldn't it be more intelligent to throw us a bone now and then to get us thinking, then when the vast majority believes - let it be known?

 

[Hygro]

Originally posted by Padma
Crop Circles are almost pure hoax. They were started by a couple of blokes in Great Britain, and it mushroomed from there. Remember how they started small and simple? Every time these guys heard scientists come up with a plausible-sounding rationale for them, they would change them to make that theory obviously wrong. For instance, an early theory was intense wind vortexes - after all, they were always circular - never any straight lines. The next night, these guys made some circles with straight lines connecting them!

I remember seeing an interview with these guys - they couldn't believe how gullible everyone was, especially when they were so obvious about what they were doing - like the straight lines thing.

Padma, you are pretty gullible yourself if you bought that these guys were soley responisble for it. There's evidence of crop circles dating from the 1700s.

(edit: wyrmshadow mentions what I'm talking about with the 1500-1600s thing)

These same two guys claimed to have made EVERY crop circle up to date, including ones where three would spring up in one night in India, Japan, and England.

As I mentioned, planks do not cause interwoven crops, nor do they change chemical properties.

A group of students in England who actually did make complex ones said that there were many crop cirlces that were indeed complex.

Those of you who say that they are 100% human need to understand that you are taking that in faith.

Nihilistic:
Axioms? It only proves that that person is a clown masquerading as a mathematician.

Just because mathematicians are clowns doesn't mean it isn't new and advanced.

I like sourboy's point.

 

[nihilistic]

Originally posted by Hygro
Just because mathematicians are clowns doesn't mean it isn't new and advanced.

Clearly you have no idea of what you are talking about. Mathematical Axioms are abstractions of logic that are considered fundamental, self-evident, and independant of one another. If this guy has a hint of a theory of a new axiom that he can add to mathematics, he would have been deserving of world class recognition. conclusion, he clearly do not have an "axiom", and most like doesn't have anything worthwhile at all.

 

[Hygro]

and who is this "he"?

How few axioms are there?

To be honost I didn't know what an axiom was until now but I did know that crop circles have led to never before seen, significant mathamatical somethings that for all I know could be axioms.

 

[Quasar1011]

The Army hides what just put circles in your crop.

 

[Tassadar]

I told you ; dont use geneticaly modified organism, see what happen now.

 

[Grille]

Originally posted by Tassadar
I told you ; dont use geneticaly modified organism, see what happen now.

Hehe, you mean modified sorts of grain or modified artists?

 

[Tassadar]

Originally posted by Grille

Hehe, you mean modified sorts of grain or modified artists?

Sorts of grain, i mean.

 

[Grille]

Huh, then I am calmed down...

Btw, the link Bamspeedy provided in post #40 mentions the Danish city of Sonderburg. That's actually very close to my native city (about 1/2 hour's drive) and those crop circles used to appear regularily in the region. I've seen two of them myself in my federal state some time ago, but they were very small and not so brilliant like the other ones on the photographs (well, arial photos don't show the details, though).

This year, however, the artists prefer a small Baltic island called Rügen (or the farmers make those genetic experiments there...). They were often placed a bit apart, not near roads or villages. The circle researches think that's not logical, since a circle artist *usually* would get some attention for his work. However, I think that argument backfires; at least it's harder to be caught in the act of making the crop circle when choosing a remote field.

Still strange, that some (capable) artists make a claim on having made certain circles, but it wasn't obviously true.
Generally, I guess spreading such false claims, unthinkable techniques, the over-night appearance and uncaught artist lead to a lot of confusion.

 

[CivCube]

How about these "crop circles"? These are ariel shots. While they've been found to have been created by natives, it does make one wonder how they did it.

 

[Quasar1011]

Hey, those aren't crop circles! Circles don't have 8 legs... or middle fingers!