Ohwell
Deity
If Japan hadn't surrendered, they would have been nuked a couple more times, burnt and sacked by the Russians, and Plundered by the United States of America
The What If? Thread
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King of England
Tired Young Man
Well yes Washington was in a bad spot at the time.
"Guns of the South"? What's that about? AK-47s?
"Guns of the South"? What's that about? AK-47s?
Ohwell
Deity
Africa? Ak- 47? Confederacy? Im very sure this did not happen... but it could have... if the Confederacy had won the war and in the future they wanted the rest of US and got AK- 47's from South Africa or something...
Great book !
Some militant white S. africans figure out away to transport themselvs and 100,000 AK-47's to the Confederacy. In the begining they were able you use their knowledge of "history" to turn the war. But as the south kept winning it altered the course of history. In the end we became 2 nations. The real irony was that the south had to free the slaves eventually inorder to restore their work force. It was neet to see how the author showed an election for the CSA between Nathan Bedford Forrest and Robert E Lee. Especially when Lee was kept alive by nitroglycerine tablets given to him to help his heart.
Go Get this Book..
Some militant white S. africans figure out away to transport themselvs and 100,000 AK-47's to the Confederacy. In the begining they were able you use their knowledge of "history" to turn the war. But as the south kept winning it altered the course of history. In the end we became 2 nations. The real irony was that the south had to free the slaves eventually inorder to restore their work force. It was neet to see how the author showed an election for the CSA between Nathan Bedford Forrest and Robert E Lee. Especially when Lee was kept alive by nitroglycerine tablets given to him to help his heart.
Go Get this Book..
Ohwell
Deity
Sounds like a funny book... I will have to check it out.King of England
Tired Young Man
Hmm.... I do like what ifs, and this sounds real interesting! 
amadeus
Bishop of Bio-Dome
What if we (the U.S.) failed to liberate Kuwait from Saddam Hussein?
What if fundamentalism exploded in the Middle East? Egypt, Iraq, and Libya all become fundamentalist states.
What if fundamentalism exploded in the Middle East? Egypt, Iraq, and Libya all become fundamentalist states.
Ohwell
Deity
Id say we would have a big problem on our hands. Maybe they would wage a Jihad on the world? Or maybe they would destroy Israel. Or maybe they would crash planes into buildings
King of England
Tired Young Man
I'd guess that we'd have what we've been trying to avoid for a long time now, a sort of world war between the fundamentalist states and the Western nations and allies, Israel will become a battlezone, God it would be horrible!
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What is the point in writing in this post?? I meen you could under no circumstances get a answer that would be correct, because if we say that Some other guy had been elected for president instead of Reagan then maybe HE wouldnt have been shot and maybe then America wouldnt have Mr Bush today and maybe the Japaneese would have not only bombed Pearl Harbour they would also have tried to take over some of the west coast! So this is a post which has no chance of "Succes" Of course you can write in it but you will never get a "Clean" Answer.
Here's how Professor William S. Allen used to start his courses:
One day a lorry/truck driver was maneuvering his fully-loaded lorry/truck down a hill road towards the center of town when suddenly his brakes gave out. He frantically tried to downshift and he screamed out the window so people got out of the way but as he approached the bottom of the hill there was a man getting into a car that just didn't/wouldn't/couldn't hear him. Though the driver tried to stear clear as he approached the bottom of the hill his lorry slammed full force into the car. However, at the very last moment the car's driver realized what was happening and miraculously jumped out of the way, missing certain death by mere centimeters.
True story. Just imagine what the world would have been like had that lorry truck hit a few centimeters one way or another that day in Nuremburg in 1935, and had Hitler been splattered across the street... No more "Heil Shicklgruber"....
One day a lorry/truck driver was maneuvering his fully-loaded lorry/truck down a hill road towards the center of town when suddenly his brakes gave out. He frantically tried to downshift and he screamed out the window so people got out of the way but as he approached the bottom of the hill there was a man getting into a car that just didn't/wouldn't/couldn't hear him. Though the driver tried to stear clear as he approached the bottom of the hill his lorry slammed full force into the car. However, at the very last moment the car's driver realized what was happening and miraculously jumped out of the way, missing certain death by mere centimeters.
True story. Just imagine what the world would have been like had that lorry truck hit a few centimeters one way or another that day in Nuremburg in 1935, and had Hitler been splattered across the street... No more "Heil Shicklgruber"....
Cyberia
Chieftain
What if Germany Didnt attack russia but Launched operation Sea Lion and Captured The British Isle?
It would be a hell of a lot harder for the americans to launch an Assualt that would have worked. Hell, we could have lost the war.
It would be a hell of a lot harder for the americans to launch an Assualt that would have worked. Hell, we could have lost the war.
amadeus
Bishop of Bio-Dome
We would have won, anyway.
The only difference is that Nagasaki and Hiroshima would still be standing -- Berlin wouldn't
Achinz
Hermit of Huangshan
It seems you could fulfil your "What-if" history urges through games. Heard of the genre "Alternate (Alternative) History" ? See the Underdogs site:
http://www.theunderdogs.org/theme.php?id=1
http://www.theunderdogs.org/theme.php?id=1
redtom
Proudhonist
WHAT IF? Military Historians Imagine What Might Have Been. A good book accept it can be quite boring to read for Englishman about a bunch idiots called the union and confederates fight, i fell asleep and skipped a few pages. Does anyone now who won?!
If Hitler got shot?
Germany would have became a communist state, there might have been peace in the world until Stalin would have decided to invade eastern Europe to unite and spread communism.
If Hitler got shot?
Germany would have became a communist state, there might have been peace in the world until Stalin would have decided to invade eastern Europe to unite and spread communism.
redtom
Proudhonist
Churchill was very nearly killed in 1931 in New York. If he died who would have the stomach to fight on the beaches etc. etc.
Another accident nearly killed Margeret Thatcher
Imagine if Margeret Thatcher died? That would be a good. The pits would be open, nationalision instead privatisation.
Chris1111
Lurker
What if Washington decided to become King instead of our first president...
What if the Nazi's came to power in America instead of Germany?
What if MLK was militant and lead the blacks in a 2nd american civil war against the 'oppressive' white government?
What if threads are silly but fun
What if the Nazi's came to power in America instead of Germany?
What if MLK was militant and lead the blacks in a 2nd american civil war against the 'oppressive' white government?
What if threads are silly but fun
Richard III
Duke of Gloucester
I usually can't get interested in these unless they are somewhat "realistic." "What if the Romans developed hydroelectric power?" is the kind of thing that should be confined to Civ.
E.g.: unrealistic/pointless: "What if Germany had invaded the UK in WWII and won the War?" Well, they didn't. They didn't for good reasons: they probably would have got their asses kicked in September, '40. It's much more interesting to speculate on missing reasons, e.g. "What if Hitler had ordered German forces to plan for an invasion two months earlier, leading to a smaller invasion in July, 1940?" Read a great book once on that theory - arguing that at that early date, the invasion might just have worked...
Or statistical flukes that involved human choices are also worthwhile. Not: "What if Abraham Lincoln drowned in a Turnip Patch on May 10, 1862?" But - to steal from Herman Wouk's "War and Remembrance": "What if, at the Battle of Midway, the Japanese cruiser 'Tone's' scout plane had not been launched an hour late due to a mechanical malfunction, thereby giving the U.S. fleet a crucial time advantage? Or what if one of the dozen other cruisers that actually had working catapults had been the one given the search area where the U.S. carriers were?"
Now THAT's a "what if": a total statistical fluke that, if reversed, could have slowed down the U.S. war effort by a eighteen months or more, with all sorts of attendant consequences. There was nothing forcing the IJN to choose the Tone's plane to cover that search grid, but they did it anyway.
R.III
E.g.: unrealistic/pointless: "What if Germany had invaded the UK in WWII and won the War?" Well, they didn't. They didn't for good reasons: they probably would have got their asses kicked in September, '40. It's much more interesting to speculate on missing reasons, e.g. "What if Hitler had ordered German forces to plan for an invasion two months earlier, leading to a smaller invasion in July, 1940?" Read a great book once on that theory - arguing that at that early date, the invasion might just have worked...
Or statistical flukes that involved human choices are also worthwhile. Not: "What if Abraham Lincoln drowned in a Turnip Patch on May 10, 1862?" But - to steal from Herman Wouk's "War and Remembrance": "What if, at the Battle of Midway, the Japanese cruiser 'Tone's' scout plane had not been launched an hour late due to a mechanical malfunction, thereby giving the U.S. fleet a crucial time advantage? Or what if one of the dozen other cruisers that actually had working catapults had been the one given the search area where the U.S. carriers were?"
Now THAT's a "what if": a total statistical fluke that, if reversed, could have slowed down the U.S. war effort by a eighteen months or more, with all sorts of attendant consequences. There was nothing forcing the IJN to choose the Tone's plane to cover that search grid, but they did it anyway.
R.III
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