THE WWII Civ Team (units, mods and other)

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Originally posted by nonnob3


I would to ask you to be an Honorary Member of the THIRD REICH TEAM :D
(Since you are helping us on some cool projects :D)

I be honoured, nonnob3.

And I got a preview of the Sdkfz 184 Ferdinand, wich I would like you to check. It done from some bad pictures, therefor Im not sure if its right.
Should I put it in this thread? or should I mail it?

/The double agent OmniMower
 
My grandfather is Polish, and joined the US Army on September 1st 1939.
I think we are all aware of the significance of that date.

Anyway, he served as an infantryman with the 5th Division (Patton's 3rd Army) rising to become the platoon sargent of a heavy weapons section.

He fought the Germans in North Africa, Sicily, France and Germany itself. Wounded twice, the second time very seriously.
He was on hand for some major battles like the Ardennes (Battle of the Bulge) and saw places like Buchenwald (extermination camp).

I dont see anything wrong with what you guys are doing, but some people and/or thier loved ones were harmed greatly by the Nazis.
There are laws in German nations to this day prohibiting the display of the hakenkruez (swatstika) and other Nazi symbols.

Just continue to respect the feelings of others, and their point of view.
So far, I believe you have.

To be honest, I was surprised no moderator asked that the avatar be removed by now. :lol:
I guess its because almost everyone knows that nonnob is a pleasant person, and is not a fascist. ;)
 
Originally posted by joespaniel
Just continue to respect the feelings of others, and their point of view.
So far, I believe you have.

To be honest, I was surprised no moderator asked that the avatar be removed by now. :lol:
I guess its because almost everyone knows that nonnob is a pleasant person, and is not a fascist. ;)

Thank you for your kind words my friend. :)
I am very proud and happy to be a member of this wonderful FORUM :yeah:
 
Originally posted by CurtSibling
My respected leader, nonnob3!

Do not be affected by the blandishments of those who are slaves to political correctness.

All should realise the avatars we use are reflections of history and the WW2 era.
...I can vouch that this team has some of the most respected posters on CFC present...I salute them!....

To quote a word from a movie about my people...Freedom!
:goodjob:

Thank you "herr" Hauptmann Curtsibling.

All of you guys are such great people :yeah: !
 
Originally posted by nonnob3
BTW, would you like to join our team? :D

I would love to help however I can.

I am in the infant stages of unit making at present, I have alot to learn about animation shop.
Civ2 was so much easier to make units for. :lol:
But I like the animations, the game is so much more alive.

For now, I can offer technical advice. I am an amateur military historian (translation: I dont get paid for my knowledge, yet!) and WWII is my specialty.

I am very eager to see what Smoking Mirror and Kinboat do with the motorcycle units. Those guys are really talented.
I actually had that idea long ago, but no one was interested then. Nonnob brought it back to life.
Thanks. :)
 
Originally posted by joespaniel

I dont see anything wrong with what you guys are doing, but some people and/or thier loved ones were harmed greatly by the Nazis.
There are laws in German nations to this day prohibiting the display of the hakenkruez (swatstika) and other Nazi symbols.

Just continue to respect the feelings of others, and their point of view.

I agree with your strong point for respect of others- however I insist that this respect should also be mutual (as unfortunately is eversince the Western POLITICAL laws of post 1945 pretty much onesided) Mind you, I am far from being or intending ever becomming a Nazi :lol: But I used to study history and politics and do have a genuine interest in developments throughout history. The problem is that my efforts and enthusiasm have very often be soured by those "common people". And they use their archaic dictatorial point of view not to silence, but to overwhelm me with 'noise' because they don't want to see anybody revealing the past- the truth must hurt. And they are backed by the (in my case German) state in its struggle to impose its very own power. The German 'constitution ratified during the occupation has still not been reviewed as promised on its VERY first page (it is not even called "constitution" but "basic rights"), even 57 years after WWII- the peace treaty with the Soviet Union was not signed until 1989, mere months before the collaps of the USSR... Things are not dealt with in Germany, in the hope that by not raising the issue it will dissapear under an eternal veil of dusty ambiguity.

There are a few things that historians have been able to dig out of the "Nazi grave" that could shake the world in which we all live in to the extend that some governments might need to throw in the towel (see the case of Nazi Gold traded with the USA in wartime via Swiss transactors, etc- how very quickly this issue disappeared from the TV screens). I cannot allow people's feelings to interphere with the work of historians uncovering the truth- it may not be a nice thing, but what is nice about the world we live in, anyway- specially if humble civ unit creators are victims of witchhunts ;) ???

BTW- the Hakenkreuz is NOT a NAZI SYMBOL and should not be hijacked by their (NSDAP) poison forever... we won't solve the problems it has created by shutting our eyes before the problems- they will remain and will constantly remind us whenever we make puny tries to forget them- that's why I call it hypocrecy. It is not profesional, not logical, not intuitive, not scientific, obviously human to run away from bothersome issues and stick our heads in the sand. In over 60 cultures around the globe the Swastica appears- and it has always been a "good" symbol. Our own Western propaganda nowadays keeps up the Nazi poison for its own convenience and legitimisation of acting preemptively against alledged evil regimes (hi Cuba, hello Soviet Union, Welcome N. Korea, how R you Mr. Hussein ???..... etc, etc etc)

This is the reason I am doing my Masters- I want to write my ressearch, publish it in shape of a book and enlighten those that preferr feeling induced idle ignorance over genuine useful knowledge. And the best time for this is NOW as long as there are still people alive that lived at the time of the events !!! Our government forbids symbols but doesnt remove the problems- just hides them conveniently- the damage in peoples heads remains, as do the social problems and lack in educational stands.

As far as people let me walk down my road in peace I will respect them- I will not however be bound by an infant refusing to take its fingers out of its ears so as not to hear me, while he tries to make me fall! I don't do it to disrespect their feelings or memories but for myself and those who chose to listen- if my research is not their cup of tea- hey I didn't invite them to look over my shoulder and comment- go have cold coffee I say.

Had to get that from my chest :) hope it doesnt sound too harsh
 
winter, you cannot forget ignorance. that is what makes the world turn. i'm not saying they're ignorant. just because they don't know things that somebody else does doesn't mean they are. i'm just saying that not everybody don't see things the way others do, whether it's because they just don't know or not. it also doesn't make jumping to conclusions when they haven't taken time to investigate right, either.

i'm waiting for somebody to yell at me and call me communist so i can turn the tables and them one. :D

anyways, i think the discussion should end because it's taking us away from the point of the thread! :p
 
Man...what can a simple "avatar" can cause... :jump:
For now on if someone complains sending a PM , I will ignore and delete it.
I cannot waste my time on "REPEATING" myself that I am NOT a Nazi Fanatic.
I rather spend my time and energy on finishing my "historical" units. :)

sween32, buddy
Thanks again for accepting to be our Allies.
Our civ "mood" is "worshipful" ... ;)
 
Originally posted by joespaniel


I would love to help however I can.

For now, I can offer technical advice. I am an amateur military historian (translation: I dont get paid for my knowledge, yet!) and WWII is my specialty.

Thanks. :)

joespaniel
Welcome aboard!!!!!!! :yeah:
Due to your numerous posts (above 2000!) and your expierence in WWII and your cool avatar (now I am talking to much, altough I :love: it ... but no one complained about yours?... :rolleyes: )
I have decided to rank you Hauptmann
Please update your signature (check out the first post on this thread).
Thank you for joining my Friend :D
 
First page looks great nonnob.

On those Wehrmacht ranks that have their SS and Kreigmarine equivalents listed, is it our choice which one we use in our signatures? I'd love to list mine as Leutnant zur See if that's the correct Kreigsmarine equivalent. Pi8ch, W.i.n.t.e.r., is that the correct term for a Kreigsmarine Leutnant?
 
Hey just wanted to drop a line to see if there is anything I can do for team!! I know I dont post much but I still want to help any way I can!!

Let me know!!!
 
These discussions are great because it can remind us all what really was at stake during the Second World War!!! The freedom to talk about it, or just plain freedom to live as individuals. To be offended by the past is to not want to remember it and that can never happen. Political correctness is BS because we should never dumb down such a pivotal point in history. If we do we are just asking to have it happen all over again!!!

A million thanks go out to those still alive who were combatants or civilians who still talk and teach those who were not there about what it was like.(shout out to my Grandpa, he flew the over the Hump)

In closing if you find something offensive about this subject, GOOD!!! Remember that feeling and educate other people why its offensive so people everywhere will not every forget!!!!

PS:Few beers in me!! LOL
 
I just wanted to thank you all for some really awesome units :goodjob: now to my question will you be making more units for the Allied side ?? things like the Moquito (?spelling?) fighter bomber that the british used and other Allied planes ??
 
Hi there Vertigom,

First of all, your spelling is ok :),

Secondly let me express our gratitude - glad people like our work. ;) It is, by the way, the right place for that kinda mails :D if only we got more ovations *greedyme* :lol:

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Regarding your question, while we are mostly busy with creating German and/or Axis units, we may well soon go over to polishing up some Allied stuff too- after all what good is it to have the coolset WWII units around without properly equipped enemies :rolleyes:
 
W.i.n.t.e.r... I salute you for your "speech". Many true words were spoken (written) by you...

BTW- the Hakenkreuz is NOT a NAZI SYMBOL and should not be hijacked by their (NSDAP) poison forever...
Yeah.. it's so silly!
PS: Please send me your "Magister-Arbeit" when it's finished!

(Generalfelmarschall, anyone ?)!
Uuh! Not satisified with your General? :D

PS: I will make a Red Guard, British Indian Forces and a Green Beret in the future! That's some Allied stuff!
 
Pi8ch, didn't somebody make a "General" unit a while back? What about altering it for use as an NKVD unit for your mod?
hmm.. at the Moment I'm using the General as a "Police" unit :D...
How would you use an NKVD?

On those Wehrmacht ranks that have their SS and Kreigmarine equivalents listed, is it our choice which one we use in our signatures? I'd love to list mine as Leutnant zur See if that's the correct Kreigsmarine equivalent. Pi8ch, W.i.n.t.e.r., is that the correct term for a Kreigsmarine Leutnant?
Yeap it is! I just not wrote it down, becuase i thought it 's no real differnce to the "land-Leutnant"


BTW: rommel77.. it's called "Leutnant".. It seems that it's the hardest german rank for an English-speaker... :D


I can vouch that this team has some of the most respected posters on CFC present...I salute them!
You are so right! Look into the off-Topic forum... Sometimes i can'T belive what im reading.. The moderator there has a hard job!
 
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