Things that each nation leaders have done to be famous.

[Illusion13]

I'll try a few...

Mao Zhe Dong (Mao, w/e...) - I should know this, I am Chinese... He brought the Chinese nation to their feet, fought away and drove the Nationalists to Taiwan, and brought communism to China

Abraham Lincoln - Led the North to victory in the American civil war, which kept the south from breaking away, and abolished slavery in the United States

Alexander the Great - One of the greatest military commanders in history, conquered much of the mid east, and into turkey. Sadly, died at a young age.

Joan d'Arc - Never did much, though told some French leader that angels fortell a great disater, and then was given little amount of troops that barely did anything, and died in vain later.

Julius/Augustus Ceasar - Established the Roman Empire and its great conquest. Conquered almost all of Europe, including the British isles.

Thats about it... Cant think anymore...

 

[Serpico]

Tokugawa - Reunificated Japan under one government and laid the foundation for the longest period of peace in the country's history.

Bismarck - Masterful diplomacy skill, prevented the political isolation of and wars against Germany.

William of Orange - Fought for Dutch independence.

Hannibal - Military Great Leader.

Isabella - Instituted the Inquisition and was rewarded for it by the Pope. Hooray.

Montezuma - Believed Cortés to be Quetzalcoatl, showered him with gifts, got taken hostage by him, died after being stoned by his own people. Hooray.

Hammurabi - Brought us the first written code of law, was very successfull in war as well as in governing his realm in peace, was also a great religious leader... all around great guy.

Cleopatra - Married her brother, pissed a lot of people off in Rome when Caesar brought her there, established a four year old as her co-regent... well, she was clever and did everything for her country, and she sure was great at seducing men, but not very successfull in the end.

Elizabeth - Inherited a poor, torn realm, secured it, and greatly expanded English influence in the world, did a lot for education... Good Queen Bess.

Gandhi - Led a non-violent fight for independence.

Xerxes - Led an enormous army against Greece, defeated the Spartans, took Athens, but ultimately suffered a big defeat.

Catherine - Great patron of artists and writers, turned St. Petersburg into a center of culture (no flips reported, though), was very successfull in the Russian-Turkish wars, securing important land areas for her country.

Shaka - Had his men slaughter women and children, torture opponents, burn their villages to the ground... gained control of a big number of Zulu clans expanded Zulu territory enormously and kept on warring, until his brother assassinated him.

 

[ssvensson]

Regnar Lodbrog - A somewhat legendary scandinavian king from around 800 AD raiding all over Europe e.g. Paris, France and England.

 

[NilesR]

Isabella - Instituted the Inquisition and was rewarded for it by the Pope. Hooray.

Please don't leave out,
helped fund Columbus' first expedition(the one that opened the new world up for colonization,
finished uniting Spain with husband Ferdinand,
drove the Moors out of Granada.

 

[aeldrik]

@Bismarck: He is responsible for the real first social laws and most important for the German Unity...

@Alexander: Don't forget his conquest of parts of India...

@Isabella: Kicked the Maures out of spain, endind the reconquista
(Niles beat me on the post by 2 min... damned...)

@Hannibal: crossed the Alps with his Elefants...

 

[NilesR]

Bismarck: He is responsible for the real first social laws and most important for the German Unity

Very true, Otto Von Bismark is probably one of the top 10 most influential people in European History. Think what the world would be like today if Germany had never unified.

Although I think that Napoleon was the first European king/regent/chancellor to enact extensive social changes on a country.

 

[HamaticBabylon]

Originally posted by Serpico
Shaka - Had his men slaughter women and children, torture opponents, burn their villages to the ground... gained control of a big number of Zulu clans expanded Zulu territory enormously and kept on warring, until his brother assassinated him.

Shaka Zulu did not do those entire things that you have mentioned. His great accomplishments was the victory against the British forces in 1889 A.D. Zulu forces were know all over Africa as great worries they mainly used spear weapons and Britain used rifleman. I wonder what would of happened if the Zulu had the guns?

 

[aeldrik]

well, we should say the following about Shaka:

By beating the Bristish Rifleman with his spearman, he proved the CIV combat system is correct, a tank can loose to a spearman!!! and a Galley can sink a sub.... (what a pitty for Shaka he didn't have galleys... he could have sunk the british navy...)

 

[Greyhawk1]

Ghenghis Khan - Killed loads of people.

Great Instigator Smoke Jaguar - killed loads of people. (more than likely)

Brennus - Killed loads of people then had other people write songs about it.

Caesar - killed loads of people for the Glory of Rome.

Hannibal - Killed loads of people.

Shaka - Killed loads of people.

Queen Bess - killed loads of Spaniards and Mary Queen of Scots.

Ghandhi - Steadfastly refused to kill anyone then got killed.

(I love Great Leaders.

 

[SuperBeaverInc.]

To expand on GreyHawk1's list, as they did more than just kill

Genghis Khan - Expanded the Mongol empire from Korea to the Danube river in Europe

Caesar - Helped the Romans rise to excellence

Hannibal - Led elephants through the Alps

Shaka - Defeated the British at Isandhlwana

Isabella - Funded Columbus

Gandhi - Led a non-violent protest that eventually helped India gain its indepence.

 

[jabancho]

Originally posted by NilesR


Please don't leave out,
helped fund Columbus' first expedition(the one that opened the new world up for colonization,
finished uniting Spain with husband Ferdinand,
drove the Moors out of Granada.

Isabella had a key essential role in what the Americas are today, she was not only remember for the "inquisition"...
Thank you reminding this!

 

[Greyhawk1]

Originally posted by SuperBeaverInc.
To expand on GreyHawk1's list, as they did more than just kill

Genghis Khan - Expanded the Mongol empire from Korea to the Danube river in Europe

Caesar - Helped the Romans rise to excellence

Hannibal - Led elephants through the Alps

Shaka - Defeated the British at Isandhlwana

Isabella - Funded Columbus

Gandhi - Led a non-violent protest that eventually helped India gain its indepence.

Bah! I was only having fun....

 

[aeldrik]

Greyhawk: you just stopped to fast... you should have gone on for at least... hmmm... 28/31 leaders.....

 

[kvasir]

I would say Napoleon would be a more famous French leader than Joan d'Arc. But I guess they need to meet the female leader quota on CIV III.

Speaking of which, I would like to see having a choice of gender for the leader of your CIV. Say, if I wanna play with the male leader I'd get Napoleon, for example, and get Joan d'Arc if I wanna be female.

I'm sure each CIV has at least a leader of each gender.

 

[phil87]

Originally posted by kvasir
I would say Napoleon would be a more famous French leader than Joan d'Arc. But I guess they need to meet the female leader quota on CIV III.

Speaking of which, I would like to see having a choice of gender for the leader of your CIV. Say, if I wanna play with the male leader I'd get Napoleon, for example, and get Joan d'Arc if I wanna be female.

I'm sure each CIV has at least a leader of each gender.

I would also like to see one leader of each gender or at least a few leaders to choose from for each civ. If this isnt possible as an Englishmen I would personally prefer Churchill to represent our wonderful island. Plus I feel his caricature cartoon would be quite funny

 

[Gengis Khan]

Yea, but that means more of firaxis's time is spent on IMHO pointless artwork. I'd much rather they spent their time & money fixing the bugs we have, then something like that.

You can always go to the customization forum if you want Churchill or Napoleon. I guarentee someone has made leaderheads for both of these & many more.

 

[saathei]

Mursilis - Most responsible for expanding the Hittite empire - and causing the Babylonians to fall! He sacked Babylon in about 1600 BC and ended the Old Babylonian period.

Gilgamesh - Mythical king in Sumeria's most famous epic.

Abu Bakr - First caliph and ruler of the Arabs after the death of Muhammed. Started the amazing expansion out of Arabia and into Mesopotamia, Egypt, etc. Was one of the only Muslim rulers that everybody actually agreed on!

Theodora - Wife of Byzantine emperor Justinian, but she was the real pants in the marriage. Justinian relied on her for many of his political decisions. She helped crush the Nika revolt of 542, and also initiated many programs to help out the less fortunate and to expand the rights of women in the empire. Also known for her... interesting... sexual escapades.

 

[Cuivienen]

Originally posted by kvasir
I would say Napoleon would be a more famous French leader than Joan d'Arc. But I guess they need to meet the female leader quota on CIV III.

Speaking of which, I would like to see having a choice of gender for the leader of your CIV. Say, if I wanna play with the male leader I'd get Napoleon, for example, and get Joan d'Arc if I wanna be female.

I'm sure each CIV has at least a leader of each gender.

You wouldn't find one for any of the Native American civs except the Iroquois (and the Americans, who should be in the European culture group anyway). Too bad, though; it's a good idea.

Pachacuti ~ Led the Incan Empire during its height and conquered the entire Andes mountain range.

Smoke-Jaguar ~ Priest-ruler of Tikal in a Mayan myth.

Henry the Navigator ~ Founded the Navigation School, funded numerous expeditions along the African coast, beginning the Age of Discovery.

 

[Tathlum]

Brennus means man of strength it was a name given to the Kings of the Sennones a Gallic Tribe (Sennones means old ones/veterans so maybe they where more a warrior society that a tribe formed around). Anyway the King Brennus in civ 3 is the guy who after defeating the Romans at Allalia went on to take the city of Rome something not even Hannibal or Pyhrus could do around the same time. Not until the Roman empire was on its knees was this feat repeated. Later a king Brennus of the Sennones is recorded as leading a raid on the Temple of Delphi while the Gallatians were on their way to found a kingdom in Turkey, incidentaly founding Ankara the modern turkish capital.

So not realy just a random Celtic Barbarian then...

 

[Greyhawk1]

You know, I thought a lot of those were made up names.

You learn a lot from here about history. You know, for an African wonder you could have "Dogon Myth" as one of the very first wonders. The Dogon tribe in Africa believe they are descended from beings that come from Alpha Centauri and amazingly have paintings depicting the invisible to the naked eye Proxima Centauri, the third star in the Centauri system. This was only discovered with the advent of modern powerful telescopes!

It was also pretty recently discovered that Alpha Centauri is a sun almost identical to our own and is easily capable of supporting life if a planet exists around it.

The Dogon talk of a race called the "Nommo" who came to this planet thousands of years ago on huge Arks.

In game terms instead of building the "Dogon Myth", one of the tribes who start the game could be randomly picked to already have it built. What it could do as a boon to the civilization is anybody's guess

This would give a circularity to Civ III that is quite phenomenal in my view. The final act of the game is for the "Dogon" to go home...