Time to get rid of the Monarchy?

[Aiken_Drumn]

What is your bar for Tyrannical Actions?

Shielding a Pedo? Bumping off an Ex-Lover?

 

[Samson]

Was not a tyrant =/= should be rulling us.

Another power he has (though again does not use) is to lock some of us up for what we say in this thread:

The Treason Felony Act 1848 makes it a criminal offence, punishable by life imprisonment, to advocate abolition of the monarchy in print, even by peaceful means.​

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That means in theory that to "imagine" overthrowing the Crown or waging war against the Queen, as the wording of the act describes, could still result in a life sentence.​

 

[Kupe Navigator]

Shielding a Pedo?

It isn't like non-monarchy nation have a history of doing that...
RIGHT Hollywood?

Bumping off an Ex-Lover?

If you mean Diana... the situation is... complicated as Queen camilla was Charles first love and he had been forced to marry Diana. Yes it was Jackass of Charles to treat Diana horribly and he needs to be shamed but it isn't black and white as people tends to think.

 

[Aiken_Drumn]

Honestly all this cray of end the monarchy is like saying "close Disney! They make crappy movie and CEO of Disney shouldn't be having that much money! Give Disney's money to public funds!"

FWIW, I think we should burn down the Mouse's House too. Their stranglehold over the entertainment culture, their stupefying lawyers protecting their Trade Marks...It is not a good thing!

It isn't like non-monarchy nation have a history of doing that...
RIGHT Hollywood?

Two wrongs don't make a rite.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

Was not a tyrant =/= should be rulling us.

Another power he has (though again does not use) is to lock some of us up for what we say in this thread:

The Treason Felony Act 1848 makes it a criminal offence, punishable by life imprisonment, to advocate abolition of the monarchy in print, even by peaceful means.That means in theory that to "imagine" overthrowing the Crown or waging war against the Queen, as the wording of the act describes, could still result in a life sentence.

Then why hasn't more vocal labor politicians who called for end of monarch has been arrested?

Two wrongs don't make a rite.

Just saying end of monarchy will NOT stop shelding pedos

 

[AmazonQueen]

Honestly celebrities in Hollywood have done much more worse things and yet I don't hear people in US calling to cancel all of Hollywood. So why should British monarchs be abolished? Some of these celebrities are much more wealthier than royals. (Erza Miller alone makes Prince Andrew look like saint)

unlike some may think here I do NOT think British royals are divine figure. I put them on same line as many hollywood celebrities.
Different is that UNLIKE many of these hollywood celebrities who chose their career many royals had no choice in their job.

Ofc the royals have a choice. They can do the right thing and abdicate. They would still be ridiculously rich, spoilt celebrities enjoying unearned power and fame.

 

[Samson]

Then why hasn't more vocal labor politicians who called for end of monarch has been arrested?

I think the technical answer is the Crown Prosecution Service (note the "crown" there) decided it is not in the public interest. Again, just because they do not use the power does not mean they do not have it.

Though a more acurate answer may be that it would be chalenged under the Human Rights Act, and they do not want that. Of course the tories want to get rid of that, so things may change.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

Ofc the royals have a choice. They can do the right thing and abdicate. They would still be ridiculously rich, spoilt celebrities enjoying unearned power and fame.

Yeah right without approval of parliament they can't.

 

[AmazonQueen]

Yeah right without approval of parliament they can't.

Parliament is going to have an unwilling monarch dragged kicking and screaming to the state opening of parliament is it?

 

[Samson]

If you mean Diana... the situation is... complicated as Queen camilla was Charles first love and he had been forced to marry Diana. Yes it was Jackass of Charles to treat Diana horribly and he needs to be shamed but it isn't black and white as people tends to think.

You are justifying them killing Diana because of what she did?

 

[Kupe Navigator]

I think the technical answer is the Crown Prosecution Service (note the "crown" there) decided it is not in the public interest. Again, just because they do not use the power does not mean they do not have it.

So why does it matter? Non of royals are insane enough to persuit that power. They KNOW powers that King Henry VIII held is no longer possible. It would be a suicide to try to achieve it.

You need to stop think of them like some sort of insane caligula like tyrants. If Queen Elizabeth has shown anything is that royals know where their limits lie.

You are justifying them killing Diana because of what she did?

Not been proven royal family had any role in the accident. It is just a conspiracy theory like LBJ was behind John F Kennedy's assassination.

 

[Aiken_Drumn]

Just saying end of monarchy will NOT stop shelding pedos

It will stop the shielding of one.

Not been proven royal family had any role in the accident. It is just a conspiracy theory like LBJ was behind John F Kennedy's assassination.

Probably should have lead with this, rather than saying it is complicated.

 

[Samson]

So why does it matter? Non of royals are insane enough to persuit that power. They KNOW powers that King Henry VIII held is no longer possible. It would be a suicide to try to achieve it.

You need to stop think of them like some sort of insane caligula like tyrants. If Queen Elizabeth has shown anything is that royals know where their limits lie.

BoJo taught us how dangerous it is to rely on those in power doing the right thing, or even the thing that they have always done and are expected to do by convention.

Not been proven royal family had any role in the accident. It is just a conspiracy theory like LBJ was behind John F Kennedy's assassination.

Sure, and I do not really think they did, but that was not your argument.

It will stop the shielding of one.

Unless we also make them not rich I am not sure. It would be a very good start though.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

It will stop the shielding of one.

Yes prince Andrew will possibly be arrested... but what will stop the second andrew from appearing?

Honestly without royalty Britain will be just smaller poorer and weaker US without guns and burgers.

 

[Samson]

Yes prince Andrew will possibly be arrested... but what will stop the second andrew from appearing?

It will stop a second Andrew thinking they can get away with it because they are royal, which may stop them.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

It will stop a second Andrew thinking they can get away with it because they are royal, which may stop them.

Like ezra miller?

 

[Aiken_Drumn]

Honestly without royalty Britain will be just smaller poorer and weaker US without guns and burgers.

Citation Needed.

 

[Samson]

Like ezra miller?

It will not stop everyone, but it may stop someone.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

It will not stop everyone, but it may stop someone.

And Andrew is just a person. Honestly even if there was no monarchy there will be people like Miller and Andrew.

Citation Needed.

What does Britain have that US dosen't?

 

[Aiken_Drumn]

What does Britain have that US dosen't?

We have pubs older than the US. That's History and Culture.