TLM01 - Apocalypse Now

[PaGe]

Now it will become tricky. War against 3 Civs is much. Gunpowder will come sone, hope we have salpeter else we can't defend our cities.
Since war against the Netherlands is impossible, and the french are to hard (they have the Great wall and have gunpowder now). The only goal could be the vikings (which are in republic now). M60A3TTS do you now their last tech-stand? Did they have invention, so that Berserks will come within the next 10 turns?

 

[M60A3TTS]

At 250AD they still lacked currency, so we have some time. At least two civs have gunpowder at last count.

 

[SimpleMonkey]

lurker's comment: It might make sense to take the local Viking cities, then play defense on the home continent (which, considering the AI's stunning ability to launch sea invasions, would seem to be pretty doable), until a sufficient force is built to move in on the french. It could take a lot of units, fo sho, but still doable. You could pull off a GLib elevator, which would be nice.

 

[PaGe]

Perhaps an offense on the Viking island would be good. If we hurry a bit, they have only swords and we knights.

 

[TimBentley]

My evenings are currently packed and I'm up in two other SGs, so I'll swap with PaGe.

 

[PaGe]

OK. I'll play tomorrow evening.

 

[PaGe]

preturn:
changed temple to dromon in trebizond
changed granary to baracks in Nicaea
changed temple to lib in Naissus
changed temple to dromon in Chalcedon
upgrade dinkey to dromon
moved some troops
some MM

Here we go:
scandinavian warrior attacked and loses
Monte wants republic. I give it him. Not starting another war and republic is known by nearly all civs. But they land two units :/
Const: Knight

turn1:
killed scandinavian warrior,
Monte doesn't want to leave our holy land and declares war. Invaders leave our land towards heaven. The atztec galley is destroyed
Move some troops and dromons to the eastside.

IBT:
China gets 50 gold from us.

turn2:
bombard vik galley next time it'll sink

IBT:
Greek buils Sistine Chapel, Babs switch to Leo

tunr3:
dromon sink vik galley.

IBT:
Persia wants Chiv. Don't give it them. Doesn't declare
China has education.

turn4:
zzz

IBT:
GA ended :blaw:
carthage started Leo.

turn5
GA brought much. Now we get Gunpowder in 7 at -37 gold. After ending of horse trade markets should be build.

IBT
Stack in the north is attacked by scand. Pike promotes to elite
Dyr: Lib -> pike

turn6:
attack Tromso: Knight promotes to Elite, sink scand. galley
sink french galley.

turn7:
destroyed Tromso (get 0 Gold, but a slave), destroyed a scand. galley

IBT:
Babs get silks for ROP.

turn8+9:
zzz

IBT:
refuse scand. contact
Persia declares war on Netherlands
French start Copernicus

turn10:
zzz

Infos for the next player:
We have horses for another 6 turns. Because of that Varna and Smyrna are optimized for that, but can be changed back before finishing the horse. (In Smyrna it is the next turn: forest -> mined grasland). Istanbul must be changed again next turn to get the next horse in time.
The stack in the north should capture Odense. After that you can decide to invade Scandinavia. But then you should move all knights that are fortified to the north and upgrade some spears in the north to take them on that journey. Scandinavia still lack currency and now have an average army compared to us. If we have luck we can heavily hurt them before they get berserks. But that would move the invation of france far in the future.

The south is relativ save due to our dromons that easily sink every potential invader. Perhaps you should move them some tiles into the Bab terrain since the new ships are also have 4 tiles movement.

Roster:
TimBentley (is on)
SimplyMonkey ?
ThERat
M60A3TTS
SimplyMonkey
PaGe

@D'Art: Do you still follow the game?

 

[ThERat]

this is fast turning into AW game with us needing to use nukes in the end...hope we can survive that long

 

[choxorn]

lurker's comment: More like, hope the AI can survive that long.

 

[PaGe]

The prop will be to throw nukes on an ally.

 

[TimBentley]

Got it. I should play tomorrow.

 

[M60A3TTS]

The prop will be to throw nukes on an ally.

I seriously doubt we'll have any allies by time we get to nukes.

 

[TimBentley]

Sorry I haven't had time to play yet; I'll play today (hmm...I should be in bed).

 

[TimBentley]

Sorry, I've still been unable to play. Go ahead and skip me. SimpleMonkey is out, so that would put ThERat up.

 

[ThERat]

ok, got it then

 

[ThERat]

save

Pre-Turn
invading Vikings seems the right thing to do befoer their zerks run havoc anyway
MM a little

IT Paris finishes Leo

1.460AD
defeat 2 spears and take Odense, load 4 boats but that won't be enough
we need an army
science down to 10%

IT gunpowder is in, get th FP message
Chinese finish Copernicus

2.470AD
we have no saltpeter of course
Greece would sell us edu for gun + 170gold, but we might want to pull off that GL trick

sail over to Viking land and spot spears only, drop 8 units there

IT Vikings attack 4 units, but get all defeated
someone lands a sword on our shores

3.480AD
use our boats to bombard Bergen, it does seem very lightly defended
defeat 2 spears and capture the city
ship over an additional pike

kill the Dutch landing and its boat

IT Vikings attack twice and lose both

4.490AD
Babs now have education as well, we will not capture the GL anytome soon and we need astro for overseas trades
get edu +7gold for gunpowder
defeat 2 swords but lose a mace

IT more Viking units streaming in

5.500AD
we need to evacuate that place and land elsewhere, flip risk too high
take a shot and go for 4 elite attacks, but do no get any leader, abandon Bergen

decide to switch off research for now as it would take far too long to get chemistry and there is a potential trade for a 2 fer

6.510AD
let the units heal, 2 civs have banking, but no trade

IT our horse deal now gets really expensive

7.520AD
sink a French galley

8.530AD
moving units closer to Copenhagen and drop some units off

IT interestingly Odense deposes us

9.540AD
take city back
sink 2 enemy boats

Copenhagen has 3 defenders, bomb them all and take city
flip risk again very high

IT many Viking units coming towards Copenhagen

10.550AD
bergen has a new city there, we need an army to raze hell and have settlers to replace the cities
defeat 2 units and then get this

form army and fill with 3 knights after taking out 2 more units
evacuate Copenhagen, except for a few artillery and a mace

army moves towards new city with 2 knight below
now we can ship over more units and start razing cites
we need more settlers than the 1 that is one the way

we should try and get astro for overseas trade and caravels
there is still hope that underneath the Viking fog, there is some salt

 

[PaGe]

Well done ThERaT.
Our first leader. That's good. Hope much will follow.
The missing salt was a must. No horses and no salt makes it really expensive for the future.

Who's next?

 

[D'Artagnan59]

Please place me on reserve.

I lost my disk.

 

[ThERat]

Roster:
TimBentley - too busy
SimplyMonkey - indefinite skip
ThERat - just played
M60A3TTS - up
PaGe

 

[choxorn]

lurker's comment: Hate to break this to you, but Salt can only show up in Desert, Hills, and Mountains. Could you show us a screenie of the entire known Viking island?