TSG41 After Action Report

[Arilian]

For culture there is too mutch random in this game.

I have tried a replay with 4C liberty, and it went extremely well - military wise. By turn 200 I have conquered my continent. By the culture CSs did not gave me good quests and I did the same 280+ restult at the end.

I am now trying 2C again, and my capital demanded crab for the first 'demand'. There is no crab at any AI for the whole game (There is a few crabs in the map but nobody settles there)
My city is mutch smaller because I am missing the we love the king day, I had almost all the time with my first playtrough.

 

[Ozymandias9891]

read the in-progress thread. there are many, including me.

In retrospect, it's what I should have done. I just blitzed through the game, and when I reached the 80-turn mark, I still kept going at it without looking at the forum to get advice and such.

Better luck next time, I suppose!

 

[Arilian]

Second try, out of contest.

Turn 263


I did not have we love the king day once nad should have build citizen itcza for more GAge.

Also I realised too late, that it is not a problem if they steal tech for me, as they will keep up the pace and the RA will be cheaper...

I had 100+Happy 1100+Culture and 300g+ / turn

Petra is OP on this map

Sub 250 is possible with some luck.


(save attached)

 

[King_Course]

Rome too my capital on turn 107. I managed to hold off defeat until 205 when my 2nd city was taken.

Thanks for another wonderful game of getting crushed by one of the top warmongers. The only saving grace is he wasn't right on top of us.

Based on all the current reports of Rome's warmongering in the "In Progress" thread I'm betting the only folks that even manage to win are the same few that always win. Even with following the very detailed write-ups by Ribannah and watching the videos some of the top guys post, I can't even come close to what these guys do.

I'm done with the GoTM.

Won the game turn 385. Lost a city to Rome but retook it. Fought 5 or 6 wars against him and fooled around pretty much, settling great people for the heck of it.

If you aren't an Emperor+ player, then allright. But most of us are I think.

Edit: Reading through the thread I see how much better most players do than me. I really should stop slacking in the GotM games, to see how well I could actually do. Seeing 13 settled GA, instead of my 9 mixed bags GPs (hey, I'm going full freedom ), really made me want to play a competitive game instead of my fooling around stuff.

 

[Rhodro]

The first GOTM I played. I registered to this forum to participate.

End details:
Game status: Culture Victory
Game date: 1874AD
Turns played: 307
Base score: 1073
Final score: 1759
Time played: 9:17:00

I only had 2 cities, capital settled in place and a 2nd city to the west, near the desert hills + river. I didn't see a good place for more cities (i hate forest cities) so i kept it at 2.

I rushed petra for the desert city, and in the endgame it became a complete powerhouse. Almost 200 hammers in golden age.

I had pretty good science with 4 settled great scientists. After petra, I rushed all science related technologies. In the end i rushed for the opera wonder thingy, but i forgot it was only for coastal cities, wasting a few technologies.

I dumped faith into great artists for longer golden age.

Didn't have much trouble with Rome. He had to go trough a pretty narrow space between Carthago and the city states. The city states were my allies and i had a defensive pact with Carthago, so Rome had almost no way to get to me, and if he did, I killed his units easy with ranged units. Was at war with him almost the whole game.

Spain didn't like me either, because i tried to convert her religion. The other civs liked me and gave me a lot of money for strategic resources and luxes. In the end i was generating a ton of gold to rushbuy buildings.

This game was a good learning experience. Next time I might settle a coastal city for easier exploration by ship, and maybe not waste the opera thing rush.

 

[Monthar]

If you aren't an Emperor+ player, then allright. But most of us are I think.

That's exactly what irritated me about this game. I beat Emperor level with ease and only typically start having problems at Deity.

 

[leif erikson]

The first GOTM I played. I registered to this forum to participate.

Glad you registered. Welcome to CivFanatics and GOTM.

Congrats on your win.

 

[Adoredra]

Game: Civ5 GOTM 41
Date submitted: 2012-08-07
Reference number: 26848
Your name: Adoredra
Your email: Moderator Action: Removed email address for security reasons.
Game status: Culture Victory
Game date: 1953AD
Turns played: 374
Base score: 1291
Final score: 1744
Time played: 4:51:00
Submitted save: TSG41_Start (1).Civ5Save
Renamed file: Adoredra_C504101.Civ5Save

For me, I countered Rome's aggression by playing defensive the whole time and didn't get dominated like Carthage. The Aztecs completely dominated their continent with superior technology (irony).

I was worried that the Aztecs would win because they completed the Apollo Project, Hubble Space Telescope and the SS Cockpit.

I only had 4 cities that was different for me as I usually have at least 8 cities puppeted in games from vengeful wars... on prince difficulty.

I will say this is the hardest game I have ever played. Oh and this is my first GOTM and the first time on these forums!

 

[leif erikson]

Oh and this is my first GOTM and the first time on these forums!

Welcome to CivFanatics and GOTM.

Glad you could join us and congrats on your win.

 

[Rhodro]

Glad you registered. Welcome to CivFanatics and GOTM.

Congrats on your win.

Thanks. Looking forward to the next one

 

[CharonJr]

For a little experiment I loaded up on the turn I conquered Rome and annexed the city this time (T131).

Took 2 additional Roman cities in addition to Carthago (who DOW me after taking Rome).

Currently I am in a fairly similar position as in the original game at T191, despite being screwed for We love the king days since no AI has connected a 2nd truffles - and since Nappy is guarded I would have to spend about 1k gold in addition to 4 lux of my own for truffles. Maybe I will even have to do it sooner or later, but not now...

Some T191 stats for this game:

+246 beakers, +271 gold, +448 culture, +51 faith each turn during a GA

Constantinople at 52 prod, 66 gold, 96 sci, 23 faith and 112 culture each turn (25 citizens)
Adrianople (eastern city with 4 lux) at 27 prod, 16 gold, 61 sci, 13 faith and 26 culture (13 citizens)
Nicaea (western desert/river/coast) at 58 prod, 55 gold, 34 sci, 5 faith, 53 culture (17 citizens)
Rome at 42 prod, 19 gold, 26 sci, 3 faith, 28 culture (13 citizens)

Stats from the old game (T191 - GA):

Overall per turn: +201 beakers, +247 gold, +472 culture, +55 faith

Capital: Pop 26, Prod 54, Gold 70, Sci 113, F 23, Cult 155
Eastern City (Mtn): Pop 13, Prod 34, Gold 27, Sci 36, F 13, Cult 25
Western city (desert/sea): Pop 18, Prod 65, Gold 76, Sci 36, F 9, Cult 53

Fairly similar, but essentially I have traded culture for science here. And while having more puppets and a 4th city will be stronger the policy costs are higher as well, it will be interesting how this turns out in the end.

 

[inspiredunease]

Hello everyone. I won, just not with a cultural victory:

Game: Civ5 GOTM 41
Date submitted: 2012-08-07
Reference number: 26851
Your name: inspiredunease
Your email: Moderator Action: email address removed for security reasons.
Game status: Diplomacy Wrong VC
Game date: 1993AD
Turns played: 413
Base score: 2346
Final score: 2860
Time played: 5:35:00
Submitted save: Theodora_0413 AD-1993.Civ5Save
Renamed file: inspiredunease_C504101.Civ5Save

Having read some of the other submissions I had a rather easy start. Dido DOWed me earlyish, and after repelling her initial invasion (and wangling a nice peace settlement when I threatened her capital ) I was left alone for a decent period of time to build up my cities and start to pump out tech to get ahead on the wonder race. Unfortunately, I think in my brain I was still playing a science victory (I've been playing a lot of OCC science victories on deity recently, trying to get a sub 220 finish), and went into rationalism after finishing tradition. If this was a science game, I would have comfortably finished sub-250 I think. Anyway, after much fun, with many many wonders, a couple of nukes dropped on Monty to prevent *his* science victory, I ended up winning by accident with a diplo victory on the turn I started constructing the utopia project.

If I get bored I might have another go at this for my own edification, I am still not clear on any of the tactics for a cultural victory, but I was happy with the game, as I played it in my own way and still got a win.

Thanks to all who organise this wonderful event, I'll definitely be back for the next

 

[chazzycat]

Game: Civ5 GOTM 41
Date submitted: 2012-08-08
Reference number: 26857
Your name: chazzycat
Game status: Culture Victory
Game date: 1872AD
Turns played: 306
Base score: 1197
Final score: 1962
Time played: 6:44:00
Submitted save: GOTM41-VICTORY.Civ5Save
Renamed file: chazzycat_C504101.Civ5Save

This was another pretty fun game. I played it a little differently from most descriptions I've read so far. I decided not to attack Rome & Carthage...it seems ideal to puppet a few cities in a culture game but I feel like it goes against the spirit. Plus its emperor so wonder spamming is still easy enough.

The other twist that maybe wasn't ideal is that I went liberty instead of tradition, and built 5 cities right out of the gate. I felt that was ideal for two reasons - 1 being the Romans and so I wanted buffer cities protecting my wonder spammers, and the terrain was perfectly suited for two defense cities in the hills. Secondly I thought expansion and shrine spam combined with the liberty finisher was my best chance at an early enhanced religion. As the Byzantines religion just had to be a part of my strategy. There was a lux for each city so growth pains weren't too bad. Used the liberty finisher GP to enhance my religion around turn 85. I had never tried the tithe/itinerant preachers/religious texts combo which seems pretty awesome and I had the option this time, so I went for it. It was pretty awesome...my economy was #1 all game long, enabling me to buy up all the CS. Pantheon was the wine/incense one and the other two beliefs were monasteries and cathedrals, all of which helped a lot with the culture.

early build order was scout monument granary but I don't remember much after that. I built NC very late but it didn't matter, was still #1 in science. that's emperor for ya I guess. I didn't even research writing until after construction and currency.

Rome attacked me of course but my plan worked out pretty well. Good defensive cities with hilly terrain plus early comp bows took out the legions without too much trouble.

Built Petra and Hanging Gardens in the city to the northwest with the 4 desert sheep, and that city became a powerhouse...my landmarks and holy sites ended up there too. Lots of wonders in the capital too, plus a few scattered over my other cities to maximize the piety bonus.

Policy order was liberty-->complete, piety-->complete, kill time in patronage, freedom-->complete, tradition through legalism (free radio towers) then back to patronage-->complete, lastly tradition-->complete.

At the end I was in a 50 turn golden age, making over 1200 culture a turn, #1 in science, allied every CS, etc. Good times.

 

[Robert Smith]

T267 (Second try)

I missed Alhambra again
13 landmarks, 1 Holy City

Tradition, Piety, 2 point in Patronage (Aesthetics => friends with protection, revoke when Ally), Freedom, Liberty, back to Patronage
Spent GE for SC and Louvre

No chance to get Cristo in time. I could have take for Cristo for 1 police so I used GE to create a manufactory instead. Anyone with Cristo and 4-5 policies left? I think I will skip liberty (or take it only for golden age?), delay completion of Piety, more points in Patronage (more science) and Commerce after Freedom (Petra is a coastal city, nice for early expel. and fish & colossus). + 1 Academy. 4 RA in this game was worthless since China dominated the other continent (no DoF with China).

I will try to get a sub 250 with Alhambra

 

[Suntechnique]

Hmm, does anybody except me tried to ignore Piety for Culture win?

 

[Robert Smith]

Hmm, does anybody except me tried to ignore Piety for Culture win?

No

33% boost for Wonders and reduce culture cost for further policies by 10% (early cristo)

 

[Morcar_civ5]

Hmm, does anybody except me tried to ignore Piety for Culture win?

It's seems Piety is worth taking. According to my recent calculations: if you took less than 15 policies until had adopted the policy that gives you -10% to next policies cost (don't remember its name, but it is almost in the end of Piety branch) you are always ahead than if you would have taken rationalism + opera (if you play with 3 or 4 own cities).

 

[zetthen]

First ever posted GOTM - played through also GOTM 40. Interesting setup, have struggled with Romans as many others. First game ended in a defeat, so I restarted. Second game was very similar to first, but more wary of Augustus which allowed me to fend him off and end in a perpetual cold war.

Ended with 3 cities and a little over 1000 culture points, but not 100% happy since it took a little too long to get there.

Eagerly awaiting GOTM 42


Game:
Civ5 GOTM 41

Date submitted:
2012-08-08

Reference number:
26858

Game status:
Culture Victory

Game date:
1902AD

Turns played:
322

Base score:
1184

Final score:
1850

Time played:
13:18:00

 

[leif erikson]

First ever posted GOTM - played through also GOTM 40. Interesting setup, have struggled with Romans as many others. First game ended in a defeat, so I restarted. Second game was very similar to first, but more wary of Augustus which allowed me to fend him off and end in a perpetual cold war.

Welcome to CivFanatics and GOTM.

You should only submit your first play through. Submitting subsequent attempts is not allowed.

 

[Jeti]

Game: Civ5 GOTM 41
Date submitted: 2012-08-08
Reference number: 26859
Your name: Jeti
Game status: Science Loss
Game date: 1944AD
Turns played: 364
Base score: 949
Final score: 949
Time played: 13:42:00
Submitted save: Theodora_0364 AD-1944.Civ5Save

I lost by 13 turns. Begun the Utopia project, but China got the SS ready first. Rome slowed me down. I could have put Citadels earlier, because was defending all the game with poorer units than Rome. I lost my city north from the capital 4 times and got it back every time, but lost the cultural buildings there. Quebec was ally of Rome and I took it and then I was warmonger and couldn't make RA's for some time falling behind on Techs.
Before the game I wanted Desert Folklore and Petra and got them. This was my second Emperor game. First one I won and this lost.
In the end Rome had at least one atomic bomb, but didn't use it.
This was a nice game anyway.