TSG9 After Action Report

Turn 207 diplomatic win
1470ad, HOF 2546

There was no opportunity for any kind of systematic approach in my game, as both China and Japan were never more than rubble. Also the larger AI denounced often, while the other civs were quite poor, so we had to get a research agreement when we could. Didn't even find China until a few turns before they were eliminated since Persia had the whole area blocked early and wouldn't sign open borders. The Great Library was quickly gone, which didn't help much either.

Still, everything worked out in the end. :)

The chosen policies were:
* Liberty - Citizenship - Representation - Meritocracy (turn 80)
* Patronage - Philantropy - Scholasticism (turn 128)
* Rationalism - Secularism - Free Thought - Scientific Revolution (turn 196)

Techwise, we prioritized Horseback Riding (turn 45) for those powerful new Stables. Yes, this was a builder's game.

Delhi (settled in place) started with a Scout and a Monument; we bought our first Worker on turn 14 with a loan from Siam.

Mumbai was founded on the river sw, on the cattle tile between the two cottons, the turn Representation came in. Vijayanagara followed when meritocracy arrived, rather faraway, past Vienna, at the ivory.

We added more cities because we could. Pataliputra on the coast east of Delhi in the big forest, Varanasi on the coast west of Delhi. Later on, Agra sw of Mumbai at some horses, to connect Vijayanagara to the core, and Calcutta on the coast north of Delhi. A few turns before the end, two island cities. India's penalty for settling more cities proved to be not much of a hindrance; by allying with the cultural city states we eventually got all the culture we needed.

As the free Great Person from Meritocracy we chose a Great Engineer and created a Manufactory at Delhi. A second one arrived naturally and was kept for the United Nations. Delhi also produced two Great Scientists.



Technology
Spoiler :

4 Archery (ruins)
9 Animal Husbandry
15 Pottery
23 The Wheel
33 Calendar
45 Horseback Riding
50 Writing
59 Philosophy
61 Mining
63 Sailing
66 Optics
68 Trapping
69 Masonry
74 Construction
75 Bronze Working
79 Iron Working
85 Metal Casting
92 Civil Service (RA)
95 Theology
105 Education
106 Mathematics
111 Engineering
114 Currency
120 Chivalry
127 Machinery
128 Banking (RA)
132 Physics
134 Compass
134 Printing Press (RA)
137 Steel
145 Gunpowder
146 Chemistry (RA)
152 Economics (RA)
153 Astronomy
159 Navigation
162 Acoustics
162 Military Science (RA)
162 Scientific Theory (Great Scientist)
168 Steam Power (RA)
168 Railroad (Great Scientist)
170 Archaeology
172 Biology (RA)
183 Electricity
187 Refrigeration
189 Plastics (Great Scientist from the Porcelain Tower)
190 Fertilizer
193 Penicilline (RA)
196 Telegraph
196 Ecology (Scientific Revoltion)
196 Globalization (Scientific Revolution)
197 Metallurgy
200 Electronics (Oxford)
202 Replaceable Parts
207 Radio
 
How did you finish the UN in a single turn with a single engineer? I see turn 196 globalization....turn 207 diplo victory. Maybe you had 2 of them? The 2 free techs policy is really a must!

Edit : Ok i remember now that a ge produce hammers following the city size. Great for 24+ pop capital i guess.

This is another thing i must perform next time. Keep other cities smaller than usual and let my capital grow very large to let him build the UN(or Apollo) faster.
 
Delhi was size 23 and had the Ironworks, producing well over 100 hammers a turn during our everlasting Golden Age (since turn 135). I also maximized overflow from the previous build (hospital).

I forgot to mention that Delhi produced another Great Engineer, which was spent on Chichen Itza. :)
 
Delhi was size 23 and had the Ironworks, producing well over 100 hammers a turn during our everlasting Golden Age (since turn 135). I also maximized overflow from the previous build (hospital).

I forgot to mention that Delhi produced another Great Engineer, which was spent on Chichen Itza. :)

Thanks for the write up, I have two questions:

1) How did you manage to keep an everlasting Golden Age?
2) It seems you didn't beeline for Writing, I take it you didn't have a so called NC start. What was your building sequence for Dehli at the start?

thanks!
 
1) Chichen Itza plus 500 happiness, policy, Taj Mahal, 2 Great Artists and 1 Great General from wonders, and 1 Great General from killing barbs. :)

Note that you have to start with the Age of Happiness sice once you already are in a Golden Age, hapiness doesn't get accumlated anymore.

2) Delhi produced the following: Scout, Worker (310 gold, turn 14), Monument, Granary, Worker (policy), Warrior (200 gold), Water Mill, Warrior, Stable (500 gold), Settler, Library, War Elephant (350 gold), National College (turn 63), Stonehenge, Worker, Workshop, Oracle (turn 97), Worker, Settler, Settler, University (turn 112), Aqueduct, Circus, Chichen Itza, Market, Worker, Colosseum, Garden, Iron Works (turn 133), National Epic, Settler, Bank, Windmill, Taj Mahal, Factory, Louvre, Public School, Porcelain Tower, Monastery, Temple, Hospital, United Nations (turn 198), Oxford (superfluous tech...), Brandenburg Gate.
 
1) Chichen Itza plus 500 happiness, policy, Taj Mahal, 2 Great Artists and 1 Great General from wonders, and 1 Great General from killing barbs. :)

How in the hell did you get 500 happiness? :confused: And i'm assuming that you mean the piety policy?

Thanks!
 
:sigh: One objective of this training exercise is to try to get our submission scripts working smoothly. That requires you to use them. I've reviewed the game files we have received via the Submission page, and compared it with the posts here.

There were a couple of games that were only attached to posts in this thread, in spite of multiple requests touse the submission form. I have taken pity on those players this time and submitted their files for them. Please don't assume I'll do this in future.

There are also some posts that describe games that were neither submitted nor posted. I'm not going to add those games to the results database manually. If you want your game to be listed in the results page, you'll have to SUBMIT IT!

Thank you
 
National College :)

I am often perplexed by all the abbreviations people use on this site....

It really doesn't take that much effort to type out "national college" :)

I'm terrible at this game and I got crushed even though I cheated left and right. I've never won an emperor level game.

This was the first time I used the research agreement blocking trick. I worked it pretty heavily. I may play this scenario again.

I've only won on Prince. If anyone has tips for how a terribad player can beat TSG9 I'd like to hear them.
 
This was really amazing game for me.
Directly after loosing in previous TSG i was able to get my first king level victory, so I think playing these games works good for me. :)

This i also started with not too much hopes. My target was to stay alive for longer than in previous TSG, so 250+ turns would be great.

Ah, I have some company for my misery! I lost to Siam (UN vote) even with lots of cheating: restarting after I had seen the nearby map, reloading previous turn if I made an egregious mistake (e.g. forgot to change a research goal for RA blocking -- I do that a lot).

I'm going to try this game a few more times to see if, with omniscience, I can beat it (never having won playing at the King level or above).
 
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