Turn 101 - 150

[YossarianLives]

That sounds like a good plan, but I don't think it's 100% necessary to hold up the turn to try to get a 1-turn advantage on the Spaniards. For any other team, yes, but the way the Spaniards have been playing I don't think they'd know what to do with the extra notice

 

[2metraninja]

In civ, and especially in war, every turn counts.

 

[Caledorn]

Host notification: I logged into the game using our team password to test whether the game was crashing from the autosaves. I did no action, except pause the game, when I found a working autosave.

 

[bistrita]

I didnt got any decision of the team, and i dont know if will have time in morning to play the turn.

 

[Maga_R]

With setup teo will take 3 turns i would say lest go natiohood and slavery, police state and get us some units, but just when we are las to play so we dont give a warn to anyone at least for 1 turn.You know 1 turn its importsn CFC lost Taj at 1 turn.

I didnt got any decision of the team, and i dont know if will have time in morning to play the turn.

I like your plan. Nationhood will be also great to boost EP and is no-cost civic.

 

[2metraninja]

My civ computer is back on and fully operational and so am I back to the game after the crash and reload stuff and after our 3-days vacation.

I am taking from here. We spoke with Bistrita and he have some busy time ahead so he wont always be able to log in, though he will be able to read/post most probably.

Mille gracias, Bistrita for your duty

Last thing we spoke is he agreed that most probably Nationalism will be worth, as it will shorten the time before we attack with 2 turns. Additional plus will be that French will not even dare to "look at us wrong" as Bistrita said if we are in full military outfit. And the silence of the French is indeed worrying. Those guys are not responding and not saying anything at all, so we must keep our eyes open and be ready to act decisively if they even decide to test us.

 

[2metraninja]

I will prepare things and will leave the whips/drafts for tomorrow. Hopefully RB will be ended their turn, so we can play an roll the turn.

 

[2metraninja]

OK, here is the plan.

We change civics as follows:

Spoiler :

And we whip/draft our cities starting the drafts from the most western cities to be drafted and when we are ready, we draft 2 more - maybe even right before the invasion starts.

Spoiler :

If something extraordinary happens, so I am not able to do this myself in some 8-9 hours from now, we will need someone to do this for the team. Switch the civics, following each city sign, crack the whip, sound muster and move them east.

 

[2metraninja]

It seems TFW is having troubles. Well, pics are in our Dropbox too.

 

[Arkipeller]

BTW... considering we are most likely monitored by RB as much as possible I think we should keep the same Login-Nick no matter if it is Caledorn og 2metra. Right now it seems on Civstats that we are up to something (which is completely right), because we keep switching nicks all the time. (Is there a reason you called yourself Caledorn-Testing?)

I feel we need all the stealth we can get

 

[2metraninja]

Yes, I know. It was me who insisted on uniform login name at first place I think. I just overlooked (for first time) it is my nick when loging in to the game this night and forgot to change it. Sorry about that. Caledorn-testing was Cal trying to get a good save to load after the pitboss crash 2 days ago.

 

[Arkipeller]

Yes, I know. It was me who insisted on uniform login name at first place I think. I just overlooked (for first time) it is my nick when loging in to the game this night and forgot to change it. Sorry about that. Caledorn-testing was Cal trying to get a good save to load after the pitboss crash 2 days ago.

Bad ninja day?

 

[2metraninja]

Was so excited to have my old loyal PC back working and being some 3-4 days away from the game.

The Med is back on track and you have a turn to play btw.

 

[Caledorn]

BTW... considering we are most likely monitored by RB as much as possible I think we should keep the same Login-Nick no matter if it is Caledorn og 2metra. Right now it seems on Civstats that we are up to something (which is completely right), because we keep switching nicks all the time. (Is there a reason you called yourself Caledorn-Testing?)

I feel we need all the stealth we can get

No can do when I log in to check things with the game for hosting purposes. I usually don't log in to the game at all and ask others to help me for those purposes, but in situations like the one that happened with the corrupted savegames I did not want the game to be held up by not having anyone who could help me around. So in cases where I need to log in in light of my host role, I need to use Caledorn. In any other case, I will use cfc.

Edit: I clicked submit too soon. All the other teams are aware that I logged in as Caledorn to check the save game as well. The Caledorn-Testing was an afterthought when I logged in the second time.

 

[YossarianLives]

Well, according to APTMod we just completed a very eventful turn!

Judaism has spread in Bono.
CFC adopts Police State!
CFC adopts Nationhood!
CFC adopts Slavery!
CFC adopts Organized Religion!
You have trained a Knight in Mantra. Work has now begun on a Catapult.
You have trained a Knight in Daivagati. Work has now begun on a Catapult.
You have trained a Catapult in Lana. Work has now begun on a Grocer.
You have trained a Crossbowman in Raj. Work has now begun on a Knight.
You have trained a Crossbowman in Astan. Work has now begun on a Knight.
You have trained a Crossbowman in Bono. Work has now begun on a Knight.
Abhi celebrates "We Love the Dictator Day"!!!
You have constructed a Barracks in Hansa. Work has now begun on a Crossbowman.
Tycho Brahe (Great Scientist) has been born in Webringen (Pluton)!
Norbert Rillieux (Great Engineer) has been born in La Villageoise (Inao)!
Merit Ptah (Great Scientist) has been born in WellPlacedCity (WPC)!

 

[2metraninja]

I love how the rest of the world is growing Great Persons where we dress our men in steel, put them on heavy warhorses and send them to exterminate our east neighbors with sword and fire. What is even greater, our people admire us and make spontaneous demonstrations shouting "We love the Dictator!"

 

[tobiasn]

Hey guys, just got a report from my tech guy that the server is down. He'll look into it tomorrow. Server will be up again in approx 10-15 hours. Sorry!

 

[2metraninja]

Chats from yesterday:

Bistrita: i was thinking
a grocer in capitol will take near 7-8 turns
maybe get aestethics literature first
to start ational epic?

2metraninja about NE, in capitol?
Bistrita: nope in city which we talk
but we will end whiping drafting in next 3 turns
2metraninja yes, in 3 turns we stop.
for a while at least

Bistrita: for 5
but i think will keep slavery
2metraninja what about Banking/Mercantilism?
ot4e and MZ are ready to close borders with RB
Bistrita: nope
wil hur us dearly
without islands
2metraninja we have 2 islands very close to us
Bistrita: till then no way
2metraninja if we have 1 fish each
Bistrita: will be weed play
2metraninja till 10-15 turns ?
Bistrita: until we have setlers there
2metraninja yeah, maybe best will be to postpone even more
Bistrita: after that i would be happy
2metraninja I set a galley
Bistrita: veryy good
2metraninja for build
we need to be a naval power LOL
Bistrita: just made some math
Bistrita: nope
not good my math
2metraninja about Mercantilism? even with REP for super-specialists?
Bistrita: not good yeah




2metraninja see - barrack in Indira worked well
Bistrita: well i hate build useles buildings
but with this frenchies
2metraninja it wont be absolutely useless
we will come to stage where we will build units in capitol
Bistrita: well i wanted a grocer faster
but its good
2metraninja yes, but no happy for us
Bistrita: yep
its ok
2metraninja we will take it, right?
Bistrita: yes
2metraninja damn, I start to feel sceptical about our allies
Bistrita: if we hire 2 merchants
will produce as much as agrocer
so actulay beter build then a grocer
2metraninja so it is about the same
Bistrita: if unhapy
2metraninja did not thought about it this way, but my gut feeling happened to be right
Bistrita: i just tough about that
and i became happy with the option
2metraninja good

 

[2metraninja]

We were chatting with Bistrita what we do with economics after the war (lol, we consider it already won) this morning:

2metraninja
what time we start to build banks?
Bistrita: morning
2metraninja we are GNP No.7 right now
Bistrita: after finishing grocers
2metraninja no before them?
Bistrita: nope
2metraninja I mean mass banks
it seems Spaniards accept their fate
Bistrita: we will not have banking till then
and mass banks means 3
2metraninja I would prefer way more
Bistrita: we dont have cities which worth more
just not worth man
2metraninja if we are not going to build Unis and not banks, how we are going to tech?
Bistrita: we will build unis man
2metraninja in the long run?
Bistrita: unis man
2metraninja OU in Indira?
Bistrita: yes
but unis hav a pourpouse
we can build ou
2metraninja last time I told you about OU you said Unis not worth, better build banks with our big empire
Bistrita: banks its not worth if not add at least 15 comerce
not worth now man
2metraninja even at 10 I wont be unhappy
Bistrita: unis
but we will get those
2metraninja we need more libraries too
Bistrita: its not posible to get unis and units too
with banks its diferent
we get 3 in our strong cities
and already a big diference
2metraninja yes, it is big difference
in PB9 I got only 2 in my 2 best cities and money doubled
Bistrita: and aas you said for unis need libraries too
2metraninja I always thought banks are before grocers if you have the choice to start them at the same time
Bistrita: and right now a CH in other cities then capitol lakshimi and lana worth more then a librarie abd university
2metraninja agree on CH
Bistrita: we need to get 8 of those
as win 15 turns will start forbiden palace
perhaps even faster
2metraninja last time we spoke about making Bulawayo Hero Epic
Bistrita: will worth more then OU
belive me
well will be heroic epic
and fp
2metraninja I would prefer FP in Zulu capitol maybe?
Bistrita: no production
to much time to get it
2metraninja hmm.. interesting combo - HE+FP
Bistrita: not worth imho
what the map dictates

2metraninja but even with good production in Bulawayo it will still be 1 after another build
2metraninja where if we build FP in other city, it will be simultaneou

Bistrita: i dont have problems paring them like that
and for zulu capitol will wait too much man
and we need it yesterday
completly deforested
no multiplyer
will be out of revolt in like 15-20 turns from now
we must act fast
2metraninja that is true
7-8-9 turns for revolt
Bistrita: 7-8 till we get it
this way i will have misionary prepapred
and second turn will whip
granary
2metraninja those poor bastards never got any religion, right?
Bistrita: yep
2metraninja I wanted to send them a missionery
Bistrita: after that in 3-4 turns whip
ch
and start on fp
still need 7 ch
we have like 3 i think
so 4 more
hope granary survives in kavakuduza
2metraninja hmm, I think more than 3 we have
Bistrita: so one will be there
and FP its more important then He right now
and after will get He realy fust
fats with natural production
doubled by marble
and org religion
we can even whip the barack for max overflow
2metraninja yes, we will be most probably finished with producing army for the moment
Bistrita: exactly my tough
in 20 turns from now
2metraninja we must have in mind we will give Marble to RB from t165
Bistrita: will kick a ga
2metraninja something of our math is not right
having no marble at t165 will be not good for us

And then we came to the point where I think the matter belongs to the RB diplomacy thread. Moving the rest of the discussion there.