pindicator
Emperor
I understand you meant to wait until we actually have the tech 
I just can't contain my enthusiasm for sacrificing population
I just can't contain my enthusiasm for sacrificing population
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T. Claudius
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It's been a while since I last posted here!
Which other teams don't have a religion yet? Assuming we get Confucianism it might be worth it to spread it to some of them, too. (For shrine and spying purposes.)
Which other teams don't have a religion yet? Assuming we get Confucianism it might be worth it to spread it to some of them, too. (For shrine and spying purposes.)
AlphaShard
Emperor
The only two with a religion are Mavericks and Quatronia.
AlphaShard
Emperor
Turn 66 -1360 BC
WAR!
Has been declared the Mighty Carthage nation has declared on the Mayans and the Mayans in return declared on the Persians.
Hell Hound finished Cottage, Sirius working Cottage and one scientist, will get Great Scientist (and Academy) next turn.
LP mining Copper, both Pallas and Vesta are healing, Enterprise moved 2w revealing some more clam. It can and will return in time if a Confusion Missionary is born in Arcturus.
Voyager continued around the SE arm and has found another Barbarian City.
Demographics:
WAR!
Has been declared the Mighty Carthage nation has declared on the Mayans and the Mayans in return declared on the Persians.
Spoiler :
Hell Hound finished Cottage, Sirius working Cottage and one scientist, will get Great Scientist (and Academy) next turn.
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LP mining Copper, both Pallas and Vesta are healing, Enterprise moved 2w revealing some more clam. It can and will return in time if a Confusion Missionary is born in Arcturus.
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Voyager continued around the SE arm and has found another Barbarian City.
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Demographics:
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azzaman333
meh
Spearmen are still better than archers. I wouldn't want to leave Arcturus under-defended when we'll probably be at war with Mavericks before long.
Commerce tiles go to the B site, plains hills are used to build Moai.
Ok, that makes sense then. I'd forgotten how much overlap those two cities have.
Trystero
Deity
It seems most likely that Quatronia has sunk a Merlot WB. I wonder why Merlot declared on Amazon? Maybe their Holkan grabbed a worker?
Hmm this is actually interesting. Because Merlot declared war on the Amazons our defensive agreement comes into effect. I don't know how we could help them, or if any assistance is even necessary. We should probably contact them and see what's up.
It's likely just an opportunistic attack, I thought they said their culture did not block Merlot from sailing by them, so it shouldn't be a case of Merlot trying to get by closed borders.
It's likely just an opportunistic attack, I thought they said their culture did not block Merlot from sailing by them, so it shouldn't be a case of Merlot trying to get by closed borders.
pindicator
Emperor
We definitely want to send Amazon a message ASAP to ask if they require assistance (while buttressing their expectations by letting them know this early on our resources are rather limited). I'd really hope that the turn-players are up-to-speed on our diplomatic agreements so we can get the ball rolling on these kinds of things faster.
Trystero
Deity
I agree that we should send a brief message to Amazon ASAP offering what help we can provide (little or none militarily at this point, but we can at least provide intelligence if we see Merlot units).
I logged in and didn't see anything noteworthy. However, as pindicator noted in the micro thread, if we want to chop the silk tile where city B (Alpha Centauri) will go, the worker (hell hound) must commit to that course of action this turn. The immediate impact of diverting this worker is that the second cottage in Sirius and the Iron mine are delayed 2-3 turns, but it gives us 30 hammers toward the worker in Canopus.
I am in favor of the chopping.
Edit: I posted the relevant micro here.
I logged in and didn't see anything noteworthy. However, as pindicator noted in the micro thread, if we want to chop the silk tile where city B (Alpha Centauri) will go, the worker (hell hound) must commit to that course of action this turn. The immediate impact of diverting this worker is that the second cottage in Sirius and the Iron mine are delayed 2-3 turns, but it gives us 30 hammers toward the worker in Canopus.
I am in favor of the chopping.
Edit: I posted the relevant micro here.
Trystero
Deity
We been contacted by Mavericks (they PMed me). See the new thread.
AlphaShard
Emperor
I have played most of the turn except doing anything with Enterprise just yet. Building the Academy really boosted our Science rate, even scalling it back to 60% were still in the lead, currently were at 145 GNP. Compared to the rival best of 85. So yeah I think it would be good next turn to scale back.
I really don't think were in a good positiion to start a war we don't have enough military at all. I'm going to assume the worst and that they have triemes with Axemen in them. I find it interesting they assume we would dogpile on Pacal.
I really don't think were in a good positiion to start a war we don't have enough military at all. I'm going to assume the worst and that they have triemes with Axemen in them. I find it interesting they assume we would dogpile on Pacal.
Trystero
Deity
Not next turn. Not until we CoL and have secured Confucianism. We still have enough gold in the bank for a few more turns at 100%
Also, I agree with moving the worker to the Alpha Centauri site, but we could have waited a while to get more feedback before committing to that course of action.
I agree that this is ill-timed. Crossbowmen would be bad. I think they will make it far enough past Arcturus before our border pops, but I could check this in a test game. We could have Enterprise move back and sink the WB in a few turns if our border doesn't keep them out.
Also, I checked the diplomacy screen, and they have not contacted Merlot yet:
Spoiler :
I have to run some errands. I will check back in a few hours, a we can talk about what message we want to send Amazon and Quatronia about this.
Trystero
Deity
OK - a lot is going on and there aren't many people around.
We just got another message from Amazon, this time via PM to me (again!). See the latest message in the Amazon message thread. Basically: 1. Merlot attacked their scout, unpvoked; 2. they have Monarchy finished and want to tech Theology next for the religion and to run Theology for the war with Merlot. 3. They say that Mavericks have a Great Engineer and want to bulb Machinery if they can trade it to somebody, otherwise they will use it on a wonder.
My thoughts: If they use it on a wonder they will delay getting Machinery giving us more time. We could let the WB/trireme through and warn Amazon to intercept while we build up military to take on Mavericks alternatively, we could sink the WB (doing our part) and have the galley retreat to Arcturus or Sirius. At worst the trireme would pillage our clams.
Or we could agree to a 1:1-ish trade and get the ETTA Machinery sooner and then backstab them.
Thoughts? I want to respond to Amazon and Quatronia soon (by PM) so we can formulate a plan.
EDIT: AlphaShard: We are in the middle of 4-way diplomacy, and there are 20 hours left on the game clock. Why the heck did you end the turn???!!!!
We just got another message from Amazon, this time via PM to me (again!). See the latest message in the Amazon message thread. Basically: 1. Merlot attacked their scout, unpvoked; 2. they have Monarchy finished and want to tech Theology next for the religion and to run Theology for the war with Merlot. 3. They say that Mavericks have a Great Engineer and want to bulb Machinery if they can trade it to somebody, otherwise they will use it on a wonder.
My thoughts: If they use it on a wonder they will delay getting Machinery giving us more time. We could let the WB/trireme through and warn Amazon to intercept while we build up military to take on Mavericks alternatively, we could sink the WB (doing our part) and have the galley retreat to Arcturus or Sirius. At worst the trireme would pillage our clams.
Or we could agree to a 1:1-ish trade and get the ETTA Machinery sooner and then backstab them.
Thoughts? I want to respond to Amazon and Quatronia soon (by PM) so we can formulate a plan.
EDIT: AlphaShard: We are in the middle of 4-way diplomacy, and there are 20 hours left on the game clock. Why the heck did you end the turn???!!!!
azzaman333
meh
Don't trade with Mavericks, but don't declare on them. We can't stop them getting through either way.
AlphaShard
Emperor
I didn't realize that ending the turn would have any effect on our diplomacy. I moved Enterprise toward Arcturus for the hopeful Missionary AND to keep tabs on the Maverick WB. I think everyone so far has agreed to not attacking the WB.
Trystero
Deity
We need to coordinate our actions with Amazon (and Quatronia), and that takes time. Also, we haven't responded to Mavericks yet, and I would have liked to do that before we moved the galley or ended the turn.
Again, it wouldn't take much time to consult with the team before making these decisions.
Edit: I have sent off responses to Amazons and Quatronia. I have a bunch of work-related writing I am supposed to be doing, but I will post any responses I get.
I would greatly appreciate some help, if somebody would care to be the Mavericks diplomat.
Again, it wouldn't take much time to consult with the team before making these decisions.
Edit: I have sent off responses to Amazons and Quatronia. I have a bunch of work-related writing I am supposed to be doing, but I will post any responses I get.
I would greatly appreciate some help, if somebody would care to be the Mavericks diplomat.
azzaman333
meh
It's much more likely that Confucianism will be founded in Canopus rather than Arcturus.
AlphaShard
Emperor
Why is that? I have seen religions founded in just settled cities before.
azzaman333
meh
The system which determines where the religion is founded favours cities which aren't the capital, have fewest religions present, and has highest tile yields being worked.
