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PrinceMyshkin
King
Turn 167 to BABE.
donsig
Low level intermediary
Wotan, please either play on time or resign. Given the recent developments in this game it is clear you are doing more than just pressing enter to keep the game going. I'm sure you can understand how Paul and the rest of us feel. There's no need for me to justify Paul's reminder or this post since you did it so well for us.
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Empiremaker
Human Fish
Calm down. Not all of us have as perfect of turn players as The Council and SABER. This game, for all of its holdups, is moving at a decent pace. If Wotan leaves, who will play BABE's turn? Still, Paul's reminders are good for the rest of us in case we miss the post here.
donsig
Low level intermediary
Telling me to calm down usually has the opposite effect my friend.
If Wotan can't play on time, has no interest in the game and no one else on his team wants to step up and play the turns then BABE should resign / retire. BABE would disappear from the game and the rest of us could finish the game out in a timely manner. As I said above I will not try justifying either Paul's reminder or my call for BABE's retirement - Wotan himself did that much more eloquently than I could hope to do.
RickFGS
Deity
I volunteer to pass to team BABE and assist Wotan on turnplay.
General_W
Councilor & Merlot Noble
Thanks Rick 
It's a bit of a pickle letting someone from another team essentially take over BABE… as it raises questions of where the real loyalty is at.
However, I'm inclined to agree that if the takeover is going to come from any team, it makes the most sense for the takeover to come from GONG.
Speaking for myself, the slow place of this MTDG is bit frustrating & dampens general enthusiasm… but doesn't totally kill the joy of the game.
For me – the biggest problem is just the lack of information. In every PBEM game I've ever played, people always lose track/get distracted/forget it's their turn multiple times. I'll admit even I do this from time-to-time.
That's one of the main reasons we have a turn-tracker thread… to keep track of who has the save, to notify others when we'll be slow, and to offer reminders when it's our turn to be distracted/forgetful.
I know Wotan is busy, and I appreciate the fact that he's soldiering on without much (any?) team support – but I still fail understand why we can't get some notice of when to expect the save. Even on a slow internet connection (like I have) it only takes a few moments if you bookmark the page, it assures everyone that you haven't forgotten, and is really a considerate thing to do for those of us who would like to know when we can generally expect the next save. The completely open-ended waiting can really drag on and (I think understandably) fray some nerves.
Since I've totally given up on any actual enforcement of the MTDG rules, I would personally be much happier if we just got regular requests for extensions when the save is going to be delayed more than 24 hours. Or even just when the save is going to be delayed more than 48 hours.
EDIT: … that way – when 24-48 hours have gone by without word from a team, other players can make an educated assumption that someone has sincerely forgotten, and the reminder posts are actually helpful, instead of perceived as nagging.
It's a bit of a pickle letting someone from another team essentially take over BABE… as it raises questions of where the real loyalty is at.
However, I'm inclined to agree that if the takeover is going to come from any team, it makes the most sense for the takeover to come from GONG.
Speaking for myself, the slow place of this MTDG is bit frustrating & dampens general enthusiasm… but doesn't totally kill the joy of the game.
For me – the biggest problem is just the lack of information. In every PBEM game I've ever played, people always lose track/get distracted/forget it's their turn multiple times. I'll admit even I do this from time-to-time.
That's one of the main reasons we have a turn-tracker thread… to keep track of who has the save, to notify others when we'll be slow, and to offer reminders when it's our turn to be distracted/forgetful.
I know Wotan is busy, and I appreciate the fact that he's soldiering on without much (any?) team support – but I still fail understand why we can't get some notice of when to expect the save. Even on a slow internet connection (like I have) it only takes a few moments if you bookmark the page, it assures everyone that you haven't forgotten, and is really a considerate thing to do for those of us who would like to know when we can generally expect the next save. The completely open-ended waiting can really drag on and (I think understandably) fray some nerves.
Since I've totally given up on any actual enforcement of the MTDG rules, I would personally be much happier if we just got regular requests for extensions when the save is going to be delayed more than 24 hours. Or even just when the save is going to be delayed more than 48 hours.
EDIT: … that way – when 24-48 hours have gone by without word from a team, other players can make an educated assumption that someone has sincerely forgotten, and the reminder posts are actually helpful, instead of perceived as nagging.
RickFGS
Deity
Sent request access to Team BABE, should my access to team GONG be canceled from now on?
General_W
Councilor & Merlot Noble
While I'm personally probably going to vote in favor of letting you switch – this should probably be handled democratically, and let the teams or individual players vote on allowing this move…. Since it does have very big potentially game-changing consequences.
If you DO move to BABE, I think it'd be 100% necessary for you to rescind your membership in and access to GONG. Unless you're proposing that GONG just takeover BABE? In which case I'm most certainly opposed.
- I'd want some kind of assurance that you intended to play BABE as a separate team and play to win… not just to provide military cover for whatever [top secret plan that no one knows about] way GONG plans to win.
If you DO move to BABE, I think it'd be 100% necessary for you to rescind your membership in and access to GONG. Unless you're proposing that GONG just takeover BABE? In which case I'm most certainly opposed.
- I'd want some kind of assurance that you intended to play BABE as a separate team and play to win… not just to provide military cover for whatever [top secret plan that no one knows about] way GONG plans to win.
RickFGS
Deity
If i leave GONG i will play to win with BABE yes
I had the impression that at times my reminders - well reminded you that you had played but forgot to send, or forgot to play...
At least I had the impression that it worked, I did certainly not mean to annoy but rather "encourage" you
If i leave GONG i will play to win with BABE yes
I support this move.
Actually I'd also love to join you but I'm feeling too comfortable with my current team
and adopted The Council's philosophy way too much to switch.Ah, by the way: turn 168 to SABER
PrinceMyshkin
King
Turn 168 to BABE.
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