Unique Unit Elimination Thread

[NicTeos]

madDjinn, you also applied -2 to samurai ? ( so 2 x -2 with one vote )

 

[NicTeos]

continue MadDjinn, but corrected samurai with 36 ( krikkitone ), however I don't see samurai at #2.

Ballista 4,
Camel archer 16
War elephant 19
Mandekalu Cavalry 27
Cossack 19
Immortal 23
Legion 30
Foreign Legion 22 (+1)
Longbowman 27
Naresuan elephant 25
Chu-Ko-Nu 35
Samurai 34 (-2)
Janissary 42

Good night.

 

[MadDjinn]

madDjinn, you also applied -2 to samurai ? ( so 2 x -2 with one vote )

you went with the right correction. I had originally wanted to knock them down, but decided 1/2 way through to change my vote.

 

[Bezurn]

Ballista 4
Camel archer 16
War elephant 19
Mandekalu Cavalry 27
Cossack 19
Immortal 24 (+1)
Legion 30
Foreign Legion 22
Longbowman 27
Naresuan elephant 25
Chu-Ko-Nu 35
Samurai 34
Janissary 40 (-2)

Jan's have great offensive capabilities, but on defense they will get mowed down. If the AI knew how to retreat units properly they wouldn't be so hot. Immortals with medic nearby and march are very good tanks.

 

[Kevin J]

Ballista 4
Camel archer 16
War elephant 20
Mandekalu Cavalry 27
Cossack 19
Immortal 24
Legion 30
Foreign Legion 22
Longbowman 27
Naresuan elephant 25
Chu-Ko-Nu 35
Samurai 34
Janissary 38

 

[Resident Mario]

Ballista 2 (-2)
Camel archer 16
War elephant 20
Mandekalu Cavalry 27
Cossack 19
Immortal 24
Legion 30
Foreign Legion 22
Longbowman 27
Naresuan elephant 25
Chu-Ko-Nu 35
Samurai 35 (+1)
Janissary 38

Ballista bland. Samuri amazing! =)

Edit: Ok ok. I find a +2 base strength increase on a Seige unit boring, basically adds up to 1 or 2 more damage here or there. On the other hand, the Samuri base Shock I means that you can get most of your forces up to March without having to force yourself to go down Honor.

 

[HoTT-NiXX]

Ballista 0 (-2)
Camel archer 16
War elephant 20
Mandekalu Cavalry 27
Cossack 19
Immortal 24
Legion 30
Foreign Legion 22
Longbowman 27
Naresuan elephant 25
Chu-Ko-Nu 35
Samurai 36 (+1)
Janissary 38

I agree with Mario

 

[Resident Mario]

Just from personal experience, I've found difficulties using Immortals properly. Jaguars are better for super-early rush, and Legions for Classical age rushes. I tried using them one game, but once everyone bounced up to Swordsmen I was getting felled down like no man's buisness. Not to mention that they are cursory to Longswords...and early warmongering works up hate...

Also, I think Jannisaries are #1, Samuri #2, and Legions #3. Just my prediction - I've only used the middle unit extensively.

 

[lordsurya08]

Camel archer 16
War elephant 20
Mandekalu Cavalry 27
Cossack 17 (-2)
Immortal 24
Legion 30
Foreign Legion 22
Longbowman 27
Naresuan elephant 25
Chu-Ko-Nu 35
Samurai 36
Janissary 39 (+1)

Ballista

 

[vexing]

Legions #3.

highly doubt that one. no reason they should pull ahead of chu-ko-nus

 

[TopGearFanatic]

highly doubt that one. no reason they should pull ahead of chu-ko-nus

Disagree. While Legions don't keep any unique upgrade, they're a very good stand-alone unit. The Cho-Ko-Nu isn't as great as it once was, now it's best just to build a bunch and then upgrade.

 

[LAnkou]

Camel archer 14
War elephant 20
Mandekalu Cavalry 27
Cossack 17
Immortal 24
Legion 30
Foreign Legion 22
Longbowman 27
Naresuan elephant 25
Chu-Ko-Nu 35
Samurai 37
Janissary 39

 

[The_Quasar]

Camel archer 14
War elephant 20
Mandekalu Cavalry 27
Cossack 15
Immortal 24
Legion 30
Foreign Legion 22
Longbowman 28
Naresuan elephant 25
Chu-Ko-Nu 35
Samurai 37
Janissary 39

 

[Gallean88]

Camel archer 14
War elephant 20
Mandekalu Cavalry 27
Cossack 16 (+1)
Immortal 24
Legion 28 (-2)
Foreign Legion 22
Longbowman 28
Naresuan elephant 25
Chu-Ko-Nu 35
Samurai 37
Janissary 39

Whoah, did people suddenly start voting the cossack down? It's really an excellent, underrated and underused unit that suffers from the bad reputation of its cavalry template. The cossack bonus against wounded units allows it to excel at sniping enemy artillery or finishing off wounded rifles with minimal damage, with all the mobility of cavalry. Even if they aren't top tier, they're much better than War elephants, immortals, and even legions (who are easily dominated by ranged+properly promoted swords).

 

[bcaiko]

Camel archer 14
War elephant 20
Mandekalu Cavalry 27
Cossack 16
Immortal 24
Legion 28
Foreign Legion 22
Longbowman 28
Naresuan elephant 25
Chu-Ko-Nu 35
Samurai 38 (+1)
Janissary 37 (-2)

 

[Save_Ferris]

Camel archer 14
War elephant 18
Mandekalu Cavalry 27
Cossack 16
Immortal 24
Legion 28
Foreign Legion 22
Longbowman 28
Naresuan elephant 25
Chu-Ko-Nu 35
Samurai 39
Janissary 37

The Samurai might rightfully defeat the Jans!

 

[TopGearFanatic]

Camel archer 14
War elephant 18
Mandekalu Cavalry 27
Cossack 16
Immortal 25
Legion 28
Foreign Legion 22
Longbowman 28
Naresuan elephant 25
Chu-Ko-Nu 35
Samurai 37
Janissary 37

 

[renetika]

Camel archer 14
War elephant 18
Mandekalu Cavalry 27
Cossack 16
Immortal 25
Legion 28
Foreign Legion 22
Longbowman 28
Naresuan elephant 25
Chu-Ko-Nu 36
Samurai 35
Janissary 37

 

[vexing]

Disagree. While Legions don't keep any unique upgrade, they're a very good stand-alone unit. The Cho-Ko-Nu isn't as great as it once was, now it's best just to build a bunch and then upgrade.

and...? you don't see the value of double attacking riflemen?

 

[Sparthage]

And the Ballista comes in 13th.

Spoiler :

#13- The Roman Ballista

Killed while reloading.​