Unusual Games Thread

[mushyman]

Very unusual game Mushyman. The Greeks seem to always found 2 cities now which means they won't have time for any of the usual Greek wonders. Sparta, as I said before, is seriously underestimated as a growth/production city.

Poor Vikings. I don't think the Germans are programmed to found any cities there, although the Russians may. When I squatted as the Vikings in England and Ireland and left Norway empty, the English knew that with their trireme but didn't send any of their settlers there.

You're going to have a tough time finding any vassals unless Egypt, India and maybe Carthage spawn.

Yeah, I think you might be right! Babylon and Arabia are both around (and weak), but Babylon is unstable and will presumably collapse soon. I think I will probably reload, thinking about fighting Cuirassers in the Middle Ages gives me the willies

A couple more funky points I forgot - Persia had just gotten the Mayan and Aztec conqueror events (coming from the West it seems), and the two spare settlers England should have had... no sign. What happened to them? Who knows!

 

[ADP101]

Well as you know the new patch introduced world wars, heres my WW I lol..... Me (Germany) is in a Defencive pact triangle with Russia and the vikings (im not going after UVH). The vikikings also have Egypt as their vassals. I control Germany, Poland, Greece, Rome, Mexico and Konstanenpel. My vassals are: Neatherlends, Khemer, Mali, Incas and America. When i Vassalized Mali, i got into a war with Monglia, Japan and Turkey (Mongolia and Japan have a defensive pact). As soon as America spawns i make them my vassals, England didnt like America so they declared war on them dragging me into it.

SOOOO, Its Me, My vasalls and My defencive pacters and their vasslas vs England. Not only does that screw over England but Mongolia and japan are at war with them too, making only France, Portuagal, China, and Spain not at war with Great Brittain lol.

In the East it is Me, my group, and China at war with Mogolia and Japan lol

World Power wise I am in the lead with France in Second

The only Groups not at war right now are Portuagal and Spain (who have a defensive pact w/ each other), and France lol this is gonna be interestingggg lol

EDIT: France just demanded Venice from me in the international congress every1 abstained except my enemies who voted yes and holland who voted no so they won but i refused to leave the city he didnt declare war on me but he is annoyed with me, so im preparing for war with him

EDIT 2: I just did me and Turkey a favor and took out Sogut, it was choking konstantenopel and it was just like the worst capitol in the history of the world lol next up imma capture Konya and move into the great plains. Mongolia collapsed and i signed a defensive pact with china. China has done very well for themselves and became a world power (like number 5)

EDIT 3: lol this is getting fun, Persia reapeared and declared war on Turkey. I sent a nicly sized invasion force to grab konya and they colapsed right b4 my first assualt lol, WWI is comming to an end

 

[wilcoxchar]

I had an interesting game today where I started as the Americans from the 3000 BC start. Apparently the Turks had discovered the Americas, had conquered the Aztecs and the Maya, and had made the Inca there vassal after taking Cuzco and Arequipa. Persia was still around and had moved into a decayed India, while Russia actually expanded into Siberia and as of 1878 has gone as far east as Zhigansk. Rome reemerged as a vassal of France and controlled Rome, Pompeii, Carthago, and Tripoli, while the Russians and the Vikings became friendly and formed a defensive pact. Also, when Ethiopia reappeared they became a vassal of Japan .

After Russia and the Vikings had been getting beaten up a bit by everyone, I thought that I could stay peaceful and not be involved to much with my neighbors. Suddenly, France declared war on Mali and started a world war. I haven't played any turns into the war yet, but it consists of me, Portugal, Mali, Germany, England, and Arabia (Germany's vassal) versus Turkey, Inca (Turkey's vassal), France, Spain, Rome (France's vassal), and Persia.

Meanwhile there is a separate war with Russia and the Vikings against Portugal, Mali, me, China, Japan, Ethiopia (Japan's vassal), Khmer (China's vassal), Germany, Arabia (Germany's vassal), Mongolia (China's vassal), and England.

All in all, lots of war going on. Sadly I'm at a moderate tech disadvantage so I'll be struggling a bit, I have riflemen but my neighbors (France, Turkey, and to some degree Spain) have infantry, but I have machine guns, so my cities should be safe.

EDIT: I just went through the history of the game up to then (1880) and Constantinople had been founded by the Greeks but through the game had been taken by Independents, the Turks, the French, the Vikings, back to the Turks, and then back to the French.

 

[Rhye]

Well as you know the new patch introduced world wars, heres my WW I lol..... Me (Germany) is in a Defencive pact triangle with Russia and the vikings (im not going after UVH). The vikikings also have Egypt as their vassals. I control Germany, Poland, Greece, Rome, Mexico and Konstanenpel. My vassals are: Neatherlends, Khemer, Mali, Incas and America. When i Vassalized Mali, i got into a war with Monglia, Japan and Turkey (Mongolia and Japan have a defensive pact). As soon as America spawns i make them my vassals, England didnt like America so they declared war on them dragging me into it.

SOOOO, Its Me, My vasalls and My defencive pacters and their vasslas vs England. Not only does that screw over England but Mongolia and japan are at war with them too, making only France, Portuagal, China, and Spain not at war with Great Brittain lol.

I'll make vassals count for the pacts cap.
England is alone vs everyone because of this.
I wonder if I should set a cap for the number of vassals too.

 

[ADP101]

I'll make vassals count for the pacts cap.
England is alone vs everyone because of this.
I wonder if I should set a cap for the number of vassals too.

nah thats what makes it fun lol

well at the end of the war nothing really happened to brittain except they were harassed at their shores (viking blockading and destroying fishing boats), i made peace with them (but not w/o a nice sum of gold and g per turn) same with japan. Mongolia collapsed and china took over and got to 3ed place, spain in secondm me in first. After the war was over i dominated the middle east and arabia had respawned and became a vassal of japan India also respawned and became a vassal of Spain

Spain france and portugal stayed neutral througout the war and are all have bad realations with me =X, im still in a defencive pact triangle with russia and the vikings. Also i have one with china... i smell WWII lol

O did i mention nukes are now enabled

 

[AnotherPacifist]

I wonder if I should set a cap for the number of vassals too.

It's already automatically capped by the AI (I never have a 3rd spontaneous offer of vassalization)--"it's out of our hands." I do think that any civ with more than 3 vassals should not be able to sign defensive pacts because that just dogpiles the other civs without vassals.

 

[ADP101]

It's already automatically capped by the AI (I never have a 3rd spontaneous offer of vassalization)--"it's out of our hands." I do think that any civ with more than 3 vassals should not be able to sign defensive pacts because that just dogpiles the other civs without vassals.

yea but all my vassals are complete weaklings lol

 

[Wessel V1]

I'll make vassals count for the pacts cap.
England is alone vs everyone because of this.
I wonder if I should set a cap for the number of vassals too.

I think it is a good idea, since I now have had 7 big world wars (almost everyone was fighting) and 4 small wars (5 or 6 civs declare war at each other). In most of those wars 11 civs were fighting against 6 (I choose the wrong side).

Another idea: The "You declared war on us!" and "You declared war on our friend!" should be capped in World Wars, it is now almost impossible to do something in peaceful times (10 years).

 

[ADP101]

I think it is a good idea, since I now have had 7 big world wars (almost everyone was fighting) and 4 small wars (5 or 6 civs declare war at each other). In most of those wars 11 civs were fighting against 6 (I choose the wrong side).

Another idea: The "You declared war on us!" and "You declared war on our friend!" should be capped in World Wars, it is now almost impossible to do something in peaceful times (10 years).

i agree with his idea about the "You declared war on us!" idea too much of that is anoying, and same with "you nuked our friend!" that can get alota minus relations

EDIT: LOL WWII started but not the way i expected its me my vasslas (and apperently my vasslas vassals?) my defensive pacters and su vassals vs. China, Japan and Arabia lol... this time Portugal, Spain, France and England are neutral, have defensive pacts and all are either annoyed or furious with me

EDIT 2: wow u guys wanna know somtin really unusual? Its our worlds WWII around 1930, a lil messege popped up saying america is going through a depression 0_o

 

[jessiecat]

I don't know if anybody else has seen this, but I think this weird.
Playing as Germany on Monarch. 600 AD start and doing OK. Not leading
but heading for a culture win. Suddenly the game ends about 1780.
Aztecs have won a historic victory! What the f...? I've never seen the
A.I. win like that. Esp. the Aztecs. I look at the map and all they've done
is control Mexico and the SW US. The Mayans have collapsed and are
independent. Is that all it takes for a Aztec UHV? And his anybody else
seen the A.I. win like that?

 

[AnotherPacifist]

I don't know if anybody else has seen this, but I think this weird.
Playing as Germany on Monarch. 600 AD start and doing OK. Not leading
but heading for a culture win. Suddenly the game ends about 1780.
Aztecs have won a historic victory! What the f...? I've never seen the
A.I. win like that. Esp. the Aztecs. I look at the map and all they've done
is control Mexico and the SW US. The Mayans have collapsed and are
independent. Is that all it takes for a Aztec UHV? And his anybody else
seen the A.I. win like that?

You must have demolished the French (so New Orleans wasn't built) and the English and Spanish didn't bother to found any cities in southern NA. Getting to industrial age before 1800 is not that hard for Aztec especially if they have a good master (who's that BTW??) who's willing to give them techs. And then they must have killed all those conquerors (or fought a war together with their masters).

 

[s09119]

I just played an amazing game, winning the Historical Victory as the Mayans.

My empire eventually spanned from Texas all the way down to the South American northern coast, and both the Aztecs and Incas were my vassals. When the English showed up and triggered Conquerors, I was 200 points aheadin score, and all the English's units ended up spawning in... on Cuba! They couldn't move to attack me since the English hadn't got Galleon's yet, and my fleet of caravels could easily prevent them from sending any lesser ships to pick them up.

So I decided to send my own ship into Europe around this time to see what was up (I had just gotten gunpowder and became the world's first nation with free speech and free religion ). Amazingly, there were only a few poers left; a Buddhist Portugal and France, an Islamic Spain, and then a Christian alliance of England, Russia, and Germany... Germany controlling the entire area of the Holy Roman Empire, Rome, and Greece. It also controlled the Christian Holy City and was the only power to surpass me in score (though my technology was still somewhat ahead).

By the time the final time victory condition rolled around, Europe had yet to found ANY colonies; they were so caught up infighting over their different religions, they couldn't spare any ships to the New World! Go Maya!

 

[AnotherPacifist]

I just played an amazing game, winning the Historical Victory as the Mayans.

My empire eventually spanned from Texas all the way down to the South American northern coast, and both the Aztecs and Incas were my vassals. When the English showed up and triggered Conquerors, I was 200 points aheadin score, and all the English's units ended up spawning in... on Cuba! They couldn't move to attack me since the English hadn't got Galleon's yet, and my fleet of caravels could easily prevent them from sending any lesser ships to pick them up.

So I decided to send my own ship into Europe around this time to see what was up (I had just gotten gunpowder and became the world's first nation with free speech and free religion ). Amazingly, there were only a few poers left; a Buddhist Portugal and France, an Islamic Spain, and then a Christian alliance of England, Russia, and Germany... Germany controlling the entire area of the Holy Roman Empire, Rome, and Greece. It also controlled the Christian Holy City and was the only power to surpass me in score (though my technology was still somewhat ahead).

By the time the final time victory condition rolled around, Europe had yet to found ANY colonies; they were so caught up infighting over their different religions, they couldn't spare any ships to the New World! Go Maya!

The fact that not all European countries are Christian seems to be the norm if you start from 3000 BC. In my game I had 45% Islam due to the fact that Christianity was erased from history by a stray barb horse archer, and all Europeans were Islamic.
Maya can expand all the way in NA if you really took the risk of lowering your science rate (in preparation for spaceship building).
That infighting and no colonies might also explain why it's possible for the AI Aztecs to win their UHV.

 

[mushyman]

I only play 3000bc starts, and I'd say that it's still the norm for most of Europe to be Christian - I've seen it as high as around 45-50% (I rarely play into the modern era so I don't know how America affects it). But it's definitely not the only possibility.

In my aborted Mayan spaceship game Europe was mostly Muslim for most of the game.... except for Arabia, who were Jewish