Used so many nukes I split the earths core..wait..wut?

Actually I do know about the changing landmass, hence the mention of continetal drift.

Different tectonic plates floating on the magma cause the continents to drift at about the same rate that your fingernails grow, and in predictable patterns. The single super continent of pangea will be reformed in about 200 million years.

That means that we could see gondwanaland on "earth" maps as well, or an antarctica that is warmer, providing you change the starting time of the game instead of the structure of the planet. But it is stated that the starting and ending dates are fixed, so . . .

The only way to have a pangea map still in effect at the current time is with a different core structure. Specifically one where:

(A) Somehow pangea formed on a single plate due to some kind of clumping in intial planetary formation. Probably resulting in many large islands elsewhere, and heavy erosion on the lone pangea-like continent.

(B) The core of the planet is much cooler and drift is therefore much slower with more erosion effects visible due to slower volcanic renewal processes and similiar weather patterns.

(C) The core of the planet is solid and drift has stopped. (Heavy erosion again)

(D) Continental formation took place at a much later date and human evolution happened much faster; perhaps due to a higher background radiation???? Maybe due to a HUGE astroid filled with hot (radioactive) materials entering the core and melting what had been a single mass???? Not likely but . . .

(E) Something I haven't though of yet. lol

The same goes for other map types. A lakes map assumes much less water and probably a larger number of astroid impacts, combined with less volcanic and erosion actvities to fill in or enlarge the lakes. A Rugged map assumes many more plate intersections and perhaps a longer glacial period to produce so many mountains and hills. A longer glacial period, perhasp due to a different sun would also be able to produce a "Lakes" type map without astroid impacts. But that's just speculation. Anyway . . .

Changes to the continent structure logically reflect changes to the planetary structure (the core), changes to the formation procces (the intial matter location, type, and amount), or changes to the outside influences (sun, moon, astroids, etc . . . )

In this particular game it seems Firaxis chose explanation 1: A change to the structure of the planet resulting in a fragile core, probably with more and smaller plates and a larger and hotter liquid content. Perhaps the map also had a large amount of uranium? Which would explain the extra core heat and the ease of building nukes.

It still could be called an "alternate earth" of course, but the alterations go back much further than the start of human history. With noticable differences in planetary formation and structure.

Of course that displays more than a high school level of knowledge concerning Geology. But I never said I was in high school, just that the level of my explanation could be understood by a high school educated person. lol
 
The only way to have a pangea map still in effect at the current time is with a different core structure. Specifically one where:

(A) Somehow pangea formed on a single plate due to some kind of clumping in intial planetary formation. Probably resulting in many large islands elsewhere, and heavy erosion on the lone pangea-like continent.

(B) The core of the planet is much cooler and drift is therefore much slower with more erosion effects visible due to slower volcanic renewal processes and similiar weather patterns.

(C) The core of the planet is solid and drift has stopped. (Heavy erosion again)

(D) Continental formation took place at a much later date and human evolution happened much faster; perhaps due to a higher background radiation????

(E) Something I haven't though of yet. lol

Yes I agree, you would need a much softer core. Roughly 750 million years ago, the earliest known supercontinent Rodinia, began to break apart. The continents later recombined to form Pannotia, 600–540 million years ago, then finally Pangaea, which broke apart 180 million years ago. However, we are a multi continent planet.

With a very solid, very heavy iron core.. nearly some 800 miles in diameter.

The point I am trying to make is, how can surface explosions far less powerful than known impact extinction events, penetrate our planet down several thousand miles to the centre.. then explode apart the planet at the centre?


OMG ROFL! :lol:
 
It wouldn't on our planet, we've done enough explosions, including underground tests to prove that.

However if the structure is different then it is possible. Assuming one or more of the strikes hit directly on fault lines and initial test explosions where done underground, or worse in water filled caves or trenches.

I'd say that you'd want a much thinner crust, and a much larger amount of liquid, and a core with a higher content of burnable and/or explosive materials in it's make-up would help as well. Since that would allow your initial explosion to set off a chain reaction.

Of course it's still more likely to start up large scale volcanic and earthquake activities before any drastic effects such as we saw in the screen shot, but perhaps those where what the scientists where analyzing? Be nice to know if the number of negative random events around the game world went up before the end. Or if they had been prominent in the early game.

I'm not saying that's what happened, or that it's a "super" answer. Just that it is plausable enough to allow us to set aside our disbelief and immerse ourselves in the game. At least so long as it doesn't happen EVERY game.

The fact that extinction event type impacts would also cause this effect can be ignored if we assume a different planetary history; one where such impacts have thus far avoided hitting the planet. Perhaps due to it being in a section of space that is mostly empty, perhaps above or below the main galactic disc.

Not that your points aren't good if we assume that we're dealing with earth or our exact solar system and history. If the same thing happened on a specific Earth Map I would be upset. It wouldn't be believable there.
 
It wouldn't on our planet, we've done enough explosions, including underground tests to prove that.

However if the structure is different then it is possible. Assuming one or more of the strikes hit directly on fault lines and initial test explosions where done underground, or worse in water filled caves or trenches.

No it wouldn't on our planet. By structure do you mean core and mantle, or continent arrangement? As, we have been hit during Rodinia, Pannotia and Pangaea. The earth is still here today, thats due to the fact that other than the upper mantle not a lot has changed in the last billion or so years.

If we continually bombed a fault line, yes I think we would see some effects. But only to the upper mantle, it would be very odd and rare for us to get any lower.

But you cannot hide the fact that we have had extinction event type impacts, and Civ is played on Earth. Many of those map types that did appear on Earth, had been hit to some degree or another.
 
Hahahah, I can imagine your surprise xD

Sounds fun, hopefully it's random and doesn't always happen, nukes are there to be used!

I disagree. Nukes are there to be avoided using. I really, really don't understand statements on the lines of "I love to see a nuke explode". I know it's a game, but even so, there are other wasy to play than starting a nuclear holocaust.
 
Öjevind Lång;5720189 said:
I disagree. Nukes are there to be avoided using. I really, really don't understand statements on the lines of "I love to see a nuke explode". I know it's a game, but even so, there are other wasy to play than starting a nuclear holocaust.

Not everyone who uses nukes goes down the holocaust route though.

I use nukes to A, punish a Capitol and try and delay that civ. B scare other civs, and C as a last resort go to Nuclear war. This only really happens if you have an advantage, and they don't have SDI. If everyone is tooled up, with SDI.. its back to the old battlefield equipment.

Mod Armour and / Bombers is the way to go, but a nuke or two at the right time (to prevent a wonder say) is good.
 
Why is everyone afraid of a nuclear holocaust? Pansies...
 
We're not... its the iron core blowing up and killing us all with uber shrapnel that has me wetting myself at nights!

:p
 
Very true, I mean look the earth can take a direct hit from a commet miles and miles wide, with more force than most of our nuclear arms put together.

You have to remember that they have to put things in for the children, and the dumbed down American market.

FYI: It's actually spelled "comet".

--A Dumb American :lol:
 
FYI: It's actually spelled "comet".

--A Dumb American :lol:

stfu you dumb American, are you that dumb that you cannot tell I have been replying to this thread from work.. and do not have all day to proof read my posting!

:p



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Wow. :lol:

Now if know you're going to lose the game you can just screw it over for everyone instead of quitting. :nuke:
 
Im well pleased with the events.

I just burned someones city down and The whole population turned into axemen seeking revenge, i got destroyed :lol:
 
LAWL! That is freakin priceless. If I were losing the game, I would start flinging nukes everywhere just to drag everyone to hell with me.

Exactly why terrorists should not have nukes... They get to happy and start bombing everybody...
 
:scan: Only humanity itself should be destroyed from so many nuclear explosions, not the planet!:confused: It makes no sense!:confused::scan:
 
I wonder if the AI can destroy the world as well

Or do you think they listen to their scientists :D
 
I am quite sure this is limited to the next war mod only... if it's in the epic game, it's the most asinine thing I've ever seen... funny, but asinine. :lol:

Why not put in a "sun goes nova" random event? Everybody loses! :p
 
Although scientifically questionable, this is a pretty cool event. It's nice to see a severe event like this can occur - although I personally wouldn't end the game. I'd choose a number of random cities to preserve as belonging to the civs, change the rest into barbarians, sever dipomatic links, and randomly take away a bunch of technologies. And change the world map, if such is feasable. That would be awesome. :)

Edit: Gaius, in Space Empires V stars can collapse or go nova, and it wipes out an entire system =P Of course, there are lots of systems to colonize, but where that isn't possible things can get very hairy :D
 
Edit: Gaius, in Space Empires V stars can collapse or go nova, and it wipes out an entire system =P Of course, there are lots of systems to colonize, but where that isn't possible things can get very hairy :D

One of these days I'm going to break down and buy Space Empires V... I always liked it in 2, 3, and 4, when you could launch your sun-killer probe in an enemy star system and wipe out everything. :D I used to name my ship classes that did this "Hiroshima" and "Doomsday." :p
 
LAWL! That is freakin priceless. If I were losing the game, I would start flinging nukes everywhere just to drag everyone to hell with me.:evil:

If you're losing the game, it's likely you'll never be able to build enough nukes to trigger it. :p
 
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