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Please post bugs and crashes from version 22 of Caveman 2 Cosmos here. It helps us keep better track of things. 
v22 bugs and crashes
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So i take it Promotions pay a bigger part of the pathing movement now??
One thing i have 'definitely" noticed is the turn times (this is a Giant map) but are down quite a bit??
Explained in 2 page, thx Koshling.
One thing i have 'definitely" noticed is the turn times (this is a Giant map) but are down quite a bit??
Explained in 2 page, thx Koshling.
Promotions have always influenced (AI) pathing somewhat, but probably more now. Whe you say turn times are 'down' do you mean 'up'?
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text display for Hittite volcanoe active and dormant is displayed very frequently ( playing as Hittite) but no volcanoe in visable plots, is the event being triggered and not fireing?. Is everyone seeing this for the civ they are playing?.
Save game posting tommorrow, when im back at home.
Save game posting tommorrow, when im back at home.
DRJ
Hedonist
Had it in last game, not this one though. I guess when I saw that bug I had it I was not playing on GEM but now on GEM volcanoes works (a bit too much in my taste as playing Japan lol). Well... maybe it's not true, I also remember I was playing as England once on GEM and had the volcano message bug as well, whereas I was not that concernced as England is not that volcano country, anyway...
So bug confirmed, but volcanoes are working - at least on GEM 38 as Japan
Filochard
Chieftain
Ok, this is a monumentally huge bug (thanks for finding it so fast), which has been present for a couple of weeks in the SVN version but somehow went un-noticed! I'm testing a fix now, and once I've verified it I will upload a fixed DLL to the patch thread (as well as SVN of course)
Edit - fix now uploaded to both SVN and patch thread.
@SO - suggest you re-upload v22 replacing the DLL with the latest from the patch thread so that anyone downloading v22 from now on does not have this issue (ideally relabelled as v22.1 or something)
DRJ
Hedonist
Great finding!
I just thought about why the AI is so stupid in terms of trade. I know you tweaked the evaluation of resource and tech trade but one fundamental thing is that the AI even tries to have gold if it already has enough of it. So if I would be techleader and had 100 k
in the bank even a 10000 offer for a tech would be neglected.So what if the AI would stop to trade for gold if it has enough of it in the bank? The money obviously would lose it's value if the AI it wanted to rush buildings with it because inlfation would take a big hit on the economy then. [an example from the recent history: China has lots and lots of $$$ and doesn't want any more of them from the US, rather something of real value. In civ terms: if a nation is fed up with
it refuses to take anymore of it but only takes res/tech and gives some change.]WimpyTheWarrior
Warlord
Very minor
I got a Great Wonder movie for just building a Wall in my city. But only for the first city the Walls were built in.
I got a Great Wonder movie for just building a Wall in my city. But only for the first city the Walls were built in.
God-Emperor
Deity
The Heal function is still messed up (it was in V21 too, reported at least once for it as I recall). It is apparently doing a Sentry while Heal (which has a separate button) instead of a Fortify while Heal since it keeps waking up when it should never do so until the unit is healed. You really don't need two Sentry while Healing buttons.
Grouping animals with units is now broken. I know you can't reveal new territory with an animal, but in v21 if the animal was grouped with a non-animal unit it would stay grouped and move with the unit even if the move revealed a plot. Now it ungroups the animal, leaving it behind, and only moves the non-animal if the move reveals a new plot (so you have to separately move the now ungrouped animal to the plot with the other non-animal unit on it, which it can now move to since the move no longer reveals a new plot because the other unit already revealed it; grouping it again is a waste of time if there are any plots that will be revealed the next time you move).
As for the volcano thing mentioned by Hanny a few posts back, I noticed this in v21 but forgot to report it (repeatedly). The volcano messages always only use the player's civ name when it is clear they should be using some other civ's name (or "an unknown civilization" or some such thing if the nearest civ to the volcano has not been met yet). Example (which I have actually seen a couple of times): a volcano right next to the Russian capitol erupts and you get a message saying something like "The distant Persian civilization reports increased volcanic activity" when it is you who are the Persians (and are, therefore, apparently distant from yourself) - clearly it should say "Russian" in the message in that case.
Grouping animals with units is now broken. I know you can't reveal new territory with an animal, but in v21 if the animal was grouped with a non-animal unit it would stay grouped and move with the unit even if the move revealed a plot. Now it ungroups the animal, leaving it behind, and only moves the non-animal if the move reveals a new plot (so you have to separately move the now ungrouped animal to the plot with the other non-animal unit on it, which it can now move to since the move no longer reveals a new plot because the other unit already revealed it; grouping it again is a waste of time if there are any plots that will be revealed the next time you move).
As for the volcano thing mentioned by Hanny a few posts back, I noticed this in v21 but forgot to report it (repeatedly). The volcano messages always only use the player's civ name when it is clear they should be using some other civ's name (or "an unknown civilization" or some such thing if the nearest civ to the volcano has not been met yet). Example (which I have actually seen a couple of times): a volcano right next to the Russian capitol erupts and you get a message saying something like "The distant Persian civilization reports increased volcanic activity" when it is you who are the Persians (and are, therefore, apparently distant from yourself) - clearly it should say "Russian" in the message in that case.
I've noticed both of these as well, except the animal grouping one seems to only sometimes be a problem, and other times actually works fine.
Great finding!
I just thought about why the AI is so stupid in terms of trade. I know you tweaked the evaluation of resource and tech trade but one fundamental thing is that the AI even tries to have gold if it already has enough of it. So if I would be techleader and had 100 k
So what if the AI would stop to trade for gold if it has enough of it in the bank? The money obviously would lose it's value if the AI it wanted to rush buildings with it because inlfation would take a big hit on the economy then. [an example from the recent history: China has lots and lots of $$$ and doesn't want any more of them from the US, rather something of real value. In civ terms: if a nation is fed up with
Yeh, that was something I was planning to do at some point
If one of you (or anyone else) can give me a save game (with inmstructions on what to move) that illustrates the animal ungrouping I'll fix it. Should be easy.
Dancing Hoskuld
Deity
This is a feature not a bug
. If you are the first to build a wall or bath then you get a movie. Not sure if it applies to other buildings.I have been considering having all subdued animals instantly move back to the nearest city, just like the sea creatures do. The main reason is that I have seen stacks of animals with a hunter "never" going back to a city even when they pass next to their own cultural border.
I think I will introduce it as an experiment in a few days so the SVN users can play with it awhile and then decide if it should be in for v23 later.
Wont be necessary
Ah, thats expains it.This is a feature not a bug
Since automation is generaly good, this should be an improvement in performence terms , otoh i spend a fair amount of time escorting certain ones back to butcher at full cost so would miss that option., but certainly if only the AI butchered ( auto sent back to city for butcher/tales et al) in the wild it would solve the uber stacks we have seen.
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C2C Supreme Commander
OK, i have to re-do the whole mod for that dll stuff, so it will take approximately 3 - 4 hours to fix, sorry everyone.
Thx Koshling for the PM, otherwise i would have never seen it.
Thx Koshling for the PM, otherwise i would have never seen it.
That is what is done in the patch thread.
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