Version 2.x bug reports

[zappara]

Hi there!

Loving your mod, but I seem to regularly crash. When I put on logging it hold on a lot longer as if it was on to me but in the end the result was the same.

XP, bts 3.17, Rom 2.62, patch 2.63

Didn't see anything odd in your log files so no solution to this problem at this time. I'll hope it won't occur in v2.7 (when it's ready) as it has updates to most components.

Out of all my attempts to play RoM 2.62, most of the time I CTD. However, I have also been able to complete a couple entire games from start to finish. I don't believe it's a problem with my free memory since I seem to have plenty to spare when it crashes, however I am by no means an expert. I am attaching my log files and the last auto-save before the latest crash.

I'm running XP Home, 1.83 Mhz, 1024 MB memory.

By the way, except for the crashes, I absolutely love this mod. If I had to go back to regular old BTS, I don't think I could.

Same thing in this case, I didn't see anything wrong with the log files. I grabbed the save and will test it. However it might a bug that has been already fixed for the next version as many of the mod components have been updated already from v2.62.

 

[vincentz]

Stumbled over a small bug. When capturing a city with a trade caravan and workers in, the trade caravan will be captured but the workers will be destroyed. (v2.63)

 

[tjaja]

I say Launch ant after a few seconds it crashes.
I have WinXP 2GB. Is that the reason?
Logs added as requested.
Thanks for any help!

 

[Seen]

Didn't see anything odd in your log files so no solution to this problem at this time. I'll hope it won't occur in v2.7 (when it's ready) as it has updates to most components.

It seems to happen 2 out of 3 times (so far) when I go to global world view. But as long as I keep my view normal I didnt crash so Ill stick to that for now

Just wanted to keep you up to date.

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

I say Launch ant after a few seconds it crashes.
I have WinXP 2GB. Is that the reason?
Logs added as requested.
Thanks for any help!

Which version of RoM and addons are you using?

Looks at logs - there appears to be a problem with the map script you are using "RoM_Custom_Continents" again the version of RoM would help because it may have been fixed in another version. Also what size world were you creating as sometimes this has influence.

In the mean time all I can suggest is using a different map script until someone can identify and fix the problem.

 

[tjaja]

Which version of RoM and addons are you using?

Looks at logs - there appears to be a problem with the map script you are using "RoM_Custom_Continents" again the version of RoM would help because it may have been fixed in another version. Also what size world were you creating as sometimes this has influence.

In the mean time all I can suggest is using a different map script until someone can identify and fix the problem.

I tried several map scipts, and yes, I got it running once with the size "Tiny".
I downloaded and installed RiseOfMankind2.62Megapack.rar .
I even uninstalled BTS and made a clean reinstall and update.
I tried to download ROM 2.63 - but the link is dead. All you get there is a suspicious .exe which doesn't have the declared size.
What map script works for you?

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Megapack has problems on XP machines - I can't use it at all. I usually play huge "RoM - Tectonics" maps. Anything bigger does not work. Have you tries RoM 2.63 WoC lite? It is RoM 2.63 with the WoC (World of Civilization) Lite version. I had that working OK on my XP machine. Lately I have been playing 2.7Test1 the beta for the next release very playable but obviously not complete.

 

[tjaja]

Megapack has problems on XP machines - I can't use it at all. I usually play huge "RoM - Tectonics" maps. Anything bigger does not work. Have you tries RoM 2.63 WoC lite? It is RoM 2.63 with the WoC (World of Civilization) Lite version. I had that working OK on my XP machine. Lately I have been playing 2.7Test1 the beta for the next release very playable but obviously not complete.

Thanks for the input.
and definitely thanks for the hint to use RoM-WoC Lite. I just started the download but it might be some time till I get to test it.
best!



Quick test shows: it works for huge maps!

 

[giffy]

I am also getting the same turn crashes. It is always a late game thing and once it happens it keeps happening on the exact same turn despite reloading a save of even 5-10 turns back. Interestingly it does not always happen at the same time during the turn. Sometimes its right after I hit the end turn button and sometimes it is after some of the AI's have had their turn. The only solution I have found is to open the world editor and delete a couple one city civs. That often fixes it for 30-50 turns.

In my last game they started happening after Russia, the most powerful civ at the time collapsed and new civs were frequently born*.

I am wondering, does anyone know the dll limit for civs? My thought is maybe that Revolutions is creating too many civs and that is causing the crash. I noticed in the ini that you can set the max number of civs for it to create and currently its set at -1 which is the dll limit. I was thinking of changing it but I don't know what would be a good number to use...

Running 2.63 in Windows 7 with 4gb of ram, a geforce 8800gt video card and a athlon x2 6000 cpu. It happens in Vista too, but it seems to take longer in Windows 7, but I cannot say for sure since I was using 2.63 WoC in Vista and cann't get that version to work in Windows 7.

Best mod for Civ4 hands down by the way!

* It was actually a pretty cool game by the way. It was late in the modern era and I had built a few carrier/invasion groups which I had stationed around the world with a focus on Russia as they were the biggest threat. They declared war on me, invading my continent with 25ish units. Their capital was near the coast so I moved one of my carrier groups to their shore and landed some troops. They were also fighting a war on their continent so their military was engaged a good distance away. My fighters weakened their defenses and I was able sack Moscow. I also nuked a few of their largest cities.

After that Russia's instability shot up and they started having rebellions. We made peace and I watched as their empire fractured as rebels took control of various cities. Eventually Cathrine was replaced by Stalin as their whole government collapsed. Now maybe 150 years later they have two cities where at one point they had around 40 and their continent has 4 times as many civs as before. Before the commies took over they were close to crushing one of their neighbors(who I had supplied with arms), now this civ is the third most powerful in the game.

One of the things I missed from earlier civ games was that empires could collapse into competing factions. Now its back and better than before!

 

[vincentz]

When you have that error is it a gamecore.dll error?

I usually get it around 1400 or 1500. My sollution was to let the AI take my turn (ctrl+shift+m)
It lets me continue the game (thou sometimes I have to do it multible times, and the AI dosnt always make the best decisions. They like to build barracks and use slavery hurries.) The best way to counter that, is to make a multible build que.

If its a MAF (memory allocation error) and vista, (dont know for w7) then there is a sollution that makes vista use more than 2GB ram for a single application. That did wonders for me. Just search the forum for : vista fix maf error.

 

[giffy]

What happens is that the screen grays out and then I get a popup that says Sid Meier's.... has stopped working.

It then searches for solutions and fails to find them. At that point my only option is to hit close program.

How would I find out what flavor of error it is?

Edit: I have made the changes to get vista to address more ram. As far as I could tell it had no affect on the crashes.

 

[vincentz]

try the ctrl+shift+m
I wish I could help more, but maybe if you put the error logs on the post maybe zappara can help better.

 

[giffy]

Sorry meant to say I've tried ctrl+shift+m as well.

Where might I find the error logs?

Thanks for the help!

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Logs are usually found in .../My games/Beyond the Sword/Logs folder. Posting the logs and a save game may help identify the problem. Also were you using any RoM addons?

 

[giffy]

I've attached the logs and the save. I just loaded the save and hit next turn and got the same crash as before. I was not using any addons. Just ROM 2.63 with revolutions and barbiarianciv enabled.

I would certainly appreciate any help that you can provide.

 

[vincentz]

Im starting to have frequent ctds. im using 2.63 with barbs, minor, revdcm, well practically everything. The strange part is it is usually at a round year (1400, 1500 and now 1750)
The only log written was the py so here it is :

Hope it makes sense to someone, coz im lost.

Spoiler :

sys.path = ['..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\email', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\encodings', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\build', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\py', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\tools', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib\\colourchooser', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib\\editor', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib\\floatcanvas', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib\\masked', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib\\mixins', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib\\ogl', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\af', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\ca', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\cs', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\da', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\de', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\el', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\es', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\eu', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\fi', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\fr', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\hi', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\hu', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\id', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\it', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\ja', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\lv', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\nb', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\nl', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\pl', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\pt_BR', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\ru', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\sl', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\sv', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\tr', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\uk', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\zh_CN', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\zh_TW', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\af\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\ca\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\cs\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\da\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\de\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\el\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\es\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\eu\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\fi\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\fr\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\hi\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\hu\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\id\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\it\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\ja\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\lv\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\nb\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\nl\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\pl\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\pt_BR\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\ru\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\sl\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\sv\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\tr\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\uk\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\zh_CN\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\zh_TW\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\py\\tests', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\tools\\XRCed', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\tools\\XRCed\\src-images', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM']

sys.modules = {'zipimport': <module 'zipimport' (built-in)>, 'signal': <module 'signal' (built-in)>, '__builtin__': <module '__builtin__' (built-in)>, 'sys': <module 'sys' (built-in)>, '__main__': <module '__main__' (built-in)>, 'exceptions': <module 'exceptions' (built-in)>, 'CvPythonExtensions': <module 'CvPythonExtensions' (built-in)>}

sys.builtin_module_names = ('CvPythonExtensions', '__builtin__', '__main__', '_bisect', '_codecs', '_codecs_cn', '_codecs_hk', '_codecs_iso2022', '_codecs_jp', '_codecs_kr', '_codecs_tw', '_csv', '_heapq', '_hotshot', '_locale', '_multibytecodec', '_random', '_sre', '_subprocess', '_symtable', '_weakref', '_winreg', 'array', 'audioop', 'binascii', 'cPickle', 'cStringIO', 'cmath', 'collections', 'datetime', 'errno', 'exceptions', 'gc', 'imageop', 'imp', 'itertools', 'marshal', 'math', 'md5', 'mmap', 'msvcrt', 'nt', 'operator', 'parser', 'regex', 'rgbimg', 'sha', 'signal', 'strop', 'struct', 'sys', 'thread', 'time', 'xxsubtype', 'zipimport')
load_module CvEventInterface
load_module BugEventManager
load_module CvEventManager
load_module CvUtil
load_module traceback
load_module PyHelpers
load_module BugCore
load_module BugUtil
load_module time
load_module ColorUtil
14:37:16 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod RevDCM
load_module CvScreensInterface
load_module CvMainInterface
load_module ScreenInput
load_module CvScreenEnums
load_module GodsOfOld
load_module RevInstances
load_module CvConfigParser
load_module ConfigParser
load_module BugPath
load_module BugConfigTracker
load_module CvModName
14:37:17 DEBUG: BugPath - initializing search paths
load_module CvAltRoot
CvAltRoot import failed
load_module _winreg
14:37:17 DEBUG: BugPath - initializing modFolder
14:37:17 WARN : BugPath - replay not ready
load_module CvModFolder
14:37:17 DEBUG: BugPath - mod is Rise of Mankind
14:37:17 INFO : BugPath - adding ini file search path 'D:\Games\Civilization4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rise of Mankind'
14:37:17 INFO : BugPath - adding asset file search path 'D:\Games\Civilization4\Beyond the Sword\Assets'
14:37:17 INFO : BugPath - adding asset file search path 'D:\Games\Civilization4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rise of Mankind\Assets'
14:37:17 INFO : BugPath - adding asset file search path 'D:\Games\Civilization4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rise of Mankind\Assets'
load_module BugOptions
load_module BugInit
load_module BugConfig
load_module xmllib
..\WARLORDS\ASSETS\PYTHON\SYSTEM\xmllib.py:9: DeprecationWarning: The xmllib module is obsolete. Use xml.sax instead.
load_module FontUtil
load_module InputUtil
load_module configobj
load_module __future__
load_module codecs
load_module validate
validate import failed
14:37:18 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod NJAGC
14:37:18 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod Scores
14:37:18 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod MainInterface
14:37:18 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod CityScreen
load_module MonkeyTools
load_module AStarTools
14:37:18 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod PLE
load_module Scoreboard
load_module DealUtil
load_module PlayerUtil
load_module ReminderEventManager
load_module Popup
load_module SdToolKit
load_module cPickle
load_module autolog
14:37:18 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod Autolog
14:37:18 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod Reminder
load_module GGUtil
load_module GPUtil
load_module ProgressBarUtil
load_module RawYields
load_module CvTechChooser
load_module TechPrefs
14:37:18 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod Advisors
load_module CvForeignAdvisor
load_module math
load_module CvExoticForeignAdvisor
load_module IconGrid_BUG
load_module DomPyHelpers
load_module TechTree
load_module AttitudeUtil
load_module FavoriteCivicDetector
load_module CvReligionScreen
load_module CvCorporationScreen
load_module CvCivicsScreen
load_module CvVictoryScreen
load_module TechUtil
load_module CvEspionageAdvisor
14:37:18 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod BetterEspionage
load_module CvOptionsScreen
load_module CvReplayScreen
load_module CvHallOfFameScreen
load_module CvDanQuayle
load_module CvGameUtils
load_module zCivics
load_module RevDCM
load_module CvUnVictoryScreen
load_module CvDawnOfMan
load_module CvTechSplashScreen
load_module CvTopCivs
load_module random
load_module CvInfoScreen
load_module CvIntroMovieScreen
load_module CvVictoryMovieScreen
load_module CvWonderMovieScreen
load_module CvEraMovieScreen
load_module CvSpaceShipScreen
load_module SevoScreenEnums
load_module CvWorldBuilderScreen
load_module CvWorldBuilderDiplomacyScreen
load_module CvDebugTools
load_module CvDebugInfoScreen
load_module CvMapGeneratorUtil
load_module CvGFCScreen
load_module CvPopupInterface
load_module CvScreenUtilsInterface
load_module CvOverlayScreenUtils
load_module CvDotMapOverlayScreen
load_module CvStrategyOverlay
load_module SdToolkit
14:37:19 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod StrategyOverlay
load_module CvScreenUtils
load_module BugOptionsScreen
load_module BugErrorOptionsTab
load_module BugOptionsTab
14:37:19 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod TechWindow
init-ing world builder screen
load_module CvWBPopups
load_module CvCameraControls
load_module CvAdvisorUtils
load_module OOSLogger
load_module RevolutionInit
load_module RevDefs
load_module RevEvents
load_module RevData
load_module SdToolKitCustom
load_module RevUtils
load_module RevCivicsUtils
load_module BarbarianCiv
load_module AIAutoPlay
load_module ChangePlayer
load_module Revolution
load_module RebelTypes
load_module TextUtils
load_module Tester
load_module TechDiffusion
load_module StartAsMinors
load_module DynamicCivNames
load_module LeaderCivNames
14:37:19 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'PreGameStart'
14:37:19 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'BeginActivePlayerTurn'
14:37:19 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'LanguageChanged'
14:37:19 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'ResolutionChanged'
14:37:19 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'PythonReloaded'
PY:Initializing Revolution Mod
14:37:19 DEBUG: BugInit - initializing...
14:37:19 DEBUG: BugInit - global context not ready
PY:OnInit
load_module CvAppInterface

and this is the message i get when crashing :

Spoiler :

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: Civ4BeyondSword.exe
Application Version: 3.1.3.1
Application Timestamp: 48310000
Fault Module Name: CvGameCoreDLL.dll
Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 49ec260a
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 000e9810
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID: 1030
Additional Information 1: 3164
Additional Information 2: f31c530d3d12785f4cca5eb2cbce0d8e
Additional Information 3: 5f87
Additional Information 4: 01bff28ec018e5af7a10ed0e25a03bbf

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[Dancing Hoskuld]

2.7Test2 something wrong as I keep getting to rebuild my river ports and harbours. Other than that not one CTD

 

[traubibaer]

Hallo!

After the system installed Vista Servicepack 2 (64Bit) the Game crashes when i played 200 - 250 Rounds.

I play RoM 2.62. The Game crashes in RoM 2.7 test 2 too.

I dont know its a Problem of RoM or Civ4 Bts.

I attached the Logfiles an the Errormessage of Windows.

Pleas write simply english or answer in german.

Thanks
Traubibaer
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[damunzy]

Is there a reason why sulphur would never appear in any of my games?

I am using the custom scenario option, the 18civ earth map?

Sulphur never appears as resource when I research gunpowder and thus cannot make ammunition, etc????

erik

I am having this problem too- version 2.63 WoC Lite. I am about to open up world builder and give everyone 1 source.

 

[JosEPh_II]

2.7Test2 something wrong as I keep getting to rebuild my river ports and harbours. Other than that not one CTD

Sounds like the old problem pre 2.5 had. I can't remember if it was tied to Events though.

Zappara said that REVDCM2.0 had some bugs in Events.

JosEPh