Vice interview

[Bromar1]

Our local hero's latest press release:

https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/the-modders-who-decided-to-overhaul-the-ai-in-civilization-v

 

[Zymos]

Thanks for the link.

 

[tu_79]

Thanks M. G for having always a nice word for testers.

 

[Funak]

Finally I get recognition for all my hard work!

As noted above, our beta testers and debuggers are amazing. Most of the time, they'll open an issue on Github for us (an open issue and code-tracking website) that we can track, assign, and respond to as we get a chance.

 

[Gazebo]

Yeah! Convenient that my last name and my avatar start with the same letter, eh?

G

 

[Funak]

And for the guys don't understand our inside joke, I'm the guy that never opens github issues, so indirectly he mentioned me with that bolded line


By the way, it completely flew over my head, but who is Christoph? I mean there are several guys it could be, I suppose, but I'm not going to insult anyone by guessing. Instead I'm going to insult all of them by not guessing. Maybe I should just have pretended to know and hope someone else asked?

 

[vyyt]

Maybe I should just have pretended to know and hope someone else asked?

Yep, that's what I did

 

[ashendashin]

He seems more concerned with polishing the AI and bugfixing than civfanatic fame
One thing's for sure, he and G have gone far with the mess Firaxis left behind.

 

[Funak]

He seems more concerned with polishing the AI and bugfixing than civfanatic fame
One thing's for sure, he and G have gone far with the mess Firaxis left behind.

Again, now you're giving unnecessary fame to one person at the cost of everyone else who worked on this.

I mean from actual work done (and this is probably going to piss people off, but whatever) the list probably goes
1. WHoward
2. Gazebo
3. Ilteroi


But Christoph clearly isn't W Howard, I hope. Is it Ilteroi? Is it someone else? If it is someone else, can you really claim that he did more than Ilteroi?

I mean these are questions, and that list is probably subject for debate. Yeah I don't want to piss old G off, be he probably wouldn't be here without W Howard (as he himself said in that interview), and it's really hard to try to quantify how much impact he has had. Yeah I'm guessing G put more hours into it, and this project wouldn't have been possible without him, but would it have been possible without WHoward?

 

[ashendashin]

Again, now you're giving unnecessary fame to one person at the cost of everyone else who worked on this.

I mean from actual work done (and this is probably going to piss people off, but whatever) the list probably goes
1. WHoward
2. Gazebo
3. Ilteroi


But Christoph clearly isn't W Howard, I hope. Is it Ilteroi? Is it someone else? If it is someone else, can you really claim that he did more than Ilteroi?

I mean these are questions, and that list is probably subject for debate. Yeah I don't want to piss old G off, be he probably wouldn't be here without W Howard (as he himself said in that interview), and it's really hard to try to quantify how much impact he has had. Yeah I'm guessing G put more hours into it, and this project wouldn't have been possible without him, but would it have been possible without WHoward?

Many people contributed to the project over time. I haven't been around long enough to know where every bit of well deserved credit is due, but I do know those who are actively going through github and pushing out fixes and improvements. I suppose there could be a hell of a lot more work in the background I'm not aware of, but this being an interview, there's only so many who are vocal about their part of the project. Last I heard of iamblichos, he was helping with multiplayer, miscellaneous fixing, and an alternative to EUI that everyone at github seems to want. Massive AI improvements? Recently that's been G and ilteroi as far as I'm aware. I'm sure many contributions led to that, but again, there's only so many who are vocal in this project.

 

[tu_79]

Don't forget content creators... That's us, to some extent. The annoying always demanding impossible and stupid things staff.

 

[Wodhann]

But Christoph clearly isn't W Howard, I hope.

Since howard is mentioned by name in the interview, he's obviously not christoph. I'm also really curious now to know who he is.

 

[pandasnail]

Pretty sure y'all are overthinking this. Of course Christoph is Ilteroi.

 

[ashendashin]

Pretty sure y'all are overthinking this. Of course its Ilteroi.

But dear Funak wants to consider all contributions! Anyone from our busy Enginseer to JFD could well have been interviewed! We must be totally fair and consider that the scope of CPP can include anyone and everyone in the interview.

I was trying to be nice to ilteroi since he doesn't seem to get all that involved here. I thought it was obvious since the AI was a major focus in his answers.

 

[Enginseer]

But dear Funak wants to consider all contributions! Anyone from our busy Enginseer to JFD could well have been interviewed! We must be totally fair and consider that the scope of CPP can include anyone and everyone in the interview.

I was trying to be nice to ilteroi since he doesn't seem to get all that involved here. I thought it was obvious since the AI was a major focus in his answers.

I'm honored that my name gets a mention, but I have no clue in AI programming except knowing what the AI does and make my mod based around their logic.

 

[Funak]

Since howard is mentioned by name in the interview, he's obviously not christoph. I'm also really curious now to know who he is.

Yeah exactly.

 

[Strigvir]

Isn't Vice a jewish publication? Hope you didn't post anything remotely racist/sexist/ableist/misogynist/homophobic/islamophobic on any part of the internet, otherwise Firaxis will use it as a marketing campaign against mods at some point.

 

[Gazebo]

Again, now you're giving unnecessary fame to one person at the cost of everyone else who worked on this.

I mean from actual work done (and this is probably going to piss people off, but whatever) the list probably goes
1. WHoward
2. Gazebo
3. Ilteroi


But Christoph clearly isn't W Howard, I hope. Is it Ilteroi? Is it someone else? If it is someone else, can you really claim that he did more than Ilteroi?

I mean these are questions, and that list is probably subject for debate. Yeah I don't want to piss old G off, be he probably wouldn't be here without W Howard (as he himself said in that interview), and it's really hard to try to quantify how much impact he has had. Yeah I'm guessing G put more hours into it, and this project wouldn't have been possible without him, but would it have been possible without WHoward?

Isn't the order I'd use in terms of 'amount of work done,' but it is the order I'd use for 'hierarchy of people that made this project possible.

 

[Funak]

Isn't the order I'd use in terms of 'amount of work done,' but it is the order I'd use for 'hierarchy of people that made this project possible.

Yeah, I was going to do 'work done' first. but changed it to 'contribution' or 'importance' but kinda forgot to change the name of the list. My bad.

By the way, tell us who Christoph is, we're dying here.

 

[tommytoxen]

Nice interview.

The main guys seem very modest, humble and clearly have a passion for what they are doing.

Top respect. Also, glad to see there are other oldies around. I was playing Amiga on a500 too