24 turns to build the 1st warrior at game start is imho too long. Barbs now seem more buffed. Much harder to take out that Barb warrior/archer/ javelineer early game. Lost my capital city to a Barb Javelineer/archer combo. My Warrior/Javelineer were no match even with 2 promotions apiece. Almost quit the game to start over as the loss of my capital city plummeted me to the bottom of the list. Don't know if I can recover before my neighbors come a calling with axemen. ;P JosEPh Edit: Barbs are mean and persistent. In 6 turns I fought more than a dozen barb units up to axeman. I lost 2 valuable seasoned axemen in the process plus an archer. But I had to save my corn crops. Just wouldn't be right to live in the middle of Western Illinois cornfields and let the barbs ruin my cornfields!