IBT:
Okay, I messed up here. In turn 167 I made a serious misclick (accidentally gifted Khan Code of Laws!)
Since I had the log, I thought I could recreate the turns exactly, but I must have done something slightly different, and you know how butterflies flap their wings... two things changed:
1. Monty did not found Islam in the old reality.
2. We never met Huayna, at least by turn 167.
Turn 165 (1050 AD)
armstrong: Islam is founded in a distant land.
armstrong: Monty converts - we need to cancel OB asap! 5 more turns.
armstrong: KK is cautious to us again thanks to HR. We could get OB with him to scout his cities.
armstrong: We can trade again, but all that he will give us is 100g for CoL. I don't think it's worth bringing him within one tech of Macers.
armstrong: Or is it?
armstrong: We can also trade sheep for our extre fish if health is a problem.
Paris grows: 8
Cuman grows: 2
Cuman's borders expand
IBT:
Turn 166 (1060 AD)
armstrong: JC has civil service
armstrong: And macemen - we need to be careful here.
Paris finishes: Forge
IBT:
Contact made: Incan Empire
Turn 167 (1070 AD)
armstrong: We meet Huayna - he's Confucian and high up in score (second only to Cyrus.)
armstrong: He also just circumnavigated the globe.
armstrong: I accidentally chopped Paris's 2nd to last forest?
armstrong: Nope, never mind, still have two left.
armstrong: Paris can build HE quickly.
armstrong: But we'll want military now, though, right? And is it better working cottages?
armstrong: Trade fish->KK for sheep
armstrong: Cyrus is sending a nice missionary our way!
Paris finishes: Catapult
Copper City grows: 7
Old Sarai grows: 5
Beshbalik grows: 8
Turfan grows: 4
IBT:
Turn 168 (1080 AD)
Paris begins: Catapult
Paris finishes: Catapult
Corney Hills finishes: Forge
Okinawa grows: 6
Turfan finishes: Barracks
IBT:
Buddhism has spread: Corney Hills
That was thanks to a Cyrus missionary. Thanks bud
Turn 169 (1090 AD)
Paris begins: Catapult
Corney Hills begins: Catapult
Turfan begins: Forge
armstrong: Cyrus's missionary went to Corney Hills.
armstrong: Besh whips market.
armstrong: I'm a pre-chopped forest!
That was meant to be a sign.
Corney Hills grows: 9
Corney Hills finishes: Catapult
Beshbalik finishes: Market
IBT:
Turn 170 (1100 AD)
Corney Hills begins: Catapult
Beshbalik begins: Forge
Commentary
1. Where do we want to build Heroic Epic? Paris isn't a bad choice. With
bureaucracy+forge+he it would have +175% to unit production. We should save the forest chop for until we revolt to Bureau' if we do.
2. Trades: CoL to KK for 110 gold? It will speed up Civil Service. I think we definitely should do this. We're in a race with Cyrus right now for CS. Any turns we can shave off of it will increase it's potential trade value/opportunity to trade. We'll also need it if we want to (see next point):
3. Trading CS: KK will definitely trade for it, but it will enable Macers for him. Not a good idea if we're going to war with him soon, but if it will get us Macers too for Machinery... hmm.
4. Open Borders with KK? It will let us scout his lands and gives us some short-term commerce.
5. Trading for Elephants: If we trade JC for Ivory, we can get 5 gpt. The Ivory cancels out the spice happiness loss. The loss of fish will put us into unhealth, but it will be freed up when we declare on KK (but then we lose his sheep until Tabriz is captured.)
6. Research path: We could go Paper->Education. Both are probably definite trades. If we get a GS he will research Education instead of Paper, which would be nice - we could probably be able to get JC to declare on Cyrus for Education. Paper also leads to Gunpowder for Musketeers. Musketeers are amazing defensive units because with speed 2 you can position a stack to protect multiple cities at once, helping a lot with garrisons.
7. GP: We have one coming in 9 turns. We can get either a prophet (bad, only will research Divine Right), Merchant (I think will research Guilds, which is nice if we can get KK's horses), or a Scientist (Philosphy, or Education if we get Paper.) I don't know who has Philosphy up for trades. We could also send a GM up to Cyrus and upgrade our whole army - that's probably a better idea?
8. We're going to need either elephants or pikemen to defend against knights. Most the AI can research that now. If KK gets knights before we get one of those, we're in deep trouble.
9. Revolution: do we want to revolt to Theocracy or OR at the same time as Bureaucracy?
10. Diplomacy: Cyrus's favorite civic is HR, so that + sharing buddhism should keep him Friendly. Definitely suck up to him, though - at Friendly, he'll be our only reliable trading partner since JC's already given up on us. We can also trade with whichever person (Huayna? Monty?) is not his "worst enemy."
11. War: when do we want to war with KK? We're not too far from Maces (4 or less turns on CS, 10ish for Machinery if we can't trade for it.)
for not trying KK ... I apologize. I will snap it any minute ... forge is huge for us. There are a few "stray" trees lying around the suburbs that can be chopped to give us an instant 25% boost in production. IIRC, we have the health to support forge.
