[Warlords] Battle of Hastings

[Flintlock1415]

Thanks for the input, Alan. I had a feeling Parallels would be the way to go, but I just wanted to throw out some other options. Thanks esp. for reminding me building PCs isn't worth much. I guess I figured I learn a bit more about hardware, but that probably isn't worth the money.

I'm rather curious as to how cross compatible programs can be between Mac OS and Windows. I think that C/C++ would generally be the best route as far as the code, but I've no idea on the best framework(s) that could be used without the need to recompile. (If possible.) Also, do you know about how long/difficult it is to use, say, an average third party app with multiple frameworks? I like Cocoa, so the prospect of Objective C++ is interesting to me. (I've never made anything worthwhile, obviously. )
As far as 3D Animation goes, I know that most professional Video/CG editing is done on Macs, but again I'm interested in cross compatibility and furthermore application to video games. I'm interested in a large amount of the Computer Graphics field, but I think the thing I know the least about is Animation.

I also have a few questions on Parallels. Can you buy a license and download Parallels? And if you can (which I would guess is true) can I easily transfer my license to my new computer? I guess I just want to know if I could run into any problems if I decide to get Parallels now and later transfer it to the Macbook.

Thanks for helping answer my endless bombardment of questions, even if some of them are are pretty stupid! (I like to think in writing, and somehow I twist my thoughts into questions. )

 

[AlanH]

I also have a few questions on Parallels. Can you buy a license and download Parallels? And if you can (which I would guess is true) can I easily transfer my license to my new computer? I guess I just want to know if I could run into any problems if I decide to get Parallels now and later transfer it to the Macbook.

Sorry, I forgot to respond on these questions. The answers are YES in both cases, as far as I know. The license is just the usual string of alphanumerics, so you should be able to reinstall and apply the old license to the new system. I don't know whether they have any cross checks to ensure that you are not running it on more than one Mac, but that wouldn't be a problem if you uninstall or decommission the old copy.

 

[Flintlock1415]

@VeBear
Thanks for the flag, although it looks very similar to the one I'm using for the Welsh. Maybe I need a new flag for them. Also, a better Norway flag would be awesome, thanks!

@ AlanH
Thanks for answering my questions. I might have to purchase Parallels then, although if I buy online I'll need to wait until the bank lets me get a Check Card.

 

[frunobulax]

-I need a new name for the Catholic shrine. Suggestions, please!

Don't know if you're still after a Catholic shrine name but how about Reliquary?

 

[Flintlock1415]

Isn't a Reliquary something that relics of the saints are placed in? I guess when I think of a Shrine, I think of a single influential place. (E.G. Church of Nativity in Vanilla.) I could almost do Notre Dame, but I was wondering if there wasn't another shrine in NW Europe. (Maybe Aachen Cathedral?)

 

[Agent327]

A shrine (Latin: scrinium "case or chest for books or papers"; Old French: escrin "box or case") is a holy or sacred place, which is dedicated to a specific deity, ancestor, hero, martyr, saint or similar figure of awe and respect, at which they are venerated or worshipped. Shrines often contain idols, relics, or other such objects associated with the figure being venerated. A shrine at which votive offerings are made is called an altar. Shrines are found in many of the world's religions, including Catholicism, Shia Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Wicca, LaVeyan Satanism, Chinese folk religion and Shinto, as well as in secular and non-religious settings. Shrines can be found in various settings, such as churches, temples, cemeteries, or in the home, although portable shrines are also found in some cultures.
This modern definition of a shrine is an extension of the original definition that was used in late antiquity, that of being a container, usually made of precious materials, used especially for a relic and often a cult image. (Wikipedia Shrine entry)


So a shrine can be, and usually is, inside a religious building. Even if, by extension, the whole building is meant, the original reference is to a particular part of the building.

 

[scriblerus]

How about the Abbey of Conques, which held the relics of St Foy, and became a huge (and lucrative) pilgrimage site on the route to Compostela in the 10th and 11th centuries?
I've always liked this place because of the back-story; St Foy's relics were housed at the abbey of Agen. In the 9th century, the pious brothers of Conques sent one of their members into deep cover at Agen. He waited a decade until he got his chance to steal the saint's bones and leg it back to Conques. There's more information here
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/france/conques.htm

 

[scriblerus]

Apologies - I stumbled across this thread: should have checked the map image on page 1 before posting.

 

[Flintlock1415]

Well I guess shrine may not be the best word then. I'm thinking of a single place (like vanilla civ) that is a great center for the religion. This is why I find Aachen Cathedral so appealing the more I read about it. It was built by Charlemagne (a bit early on the time frame, I know) and holds four pretty amazing relics. (See the article.)

@VeBear
How alive were the Pagan religions in Scandinavia? Maybe there could be a game mechanic (inquisition) that could be used to drive out the Pagans, started with the construction of the Church of St. Olav? That could be an interesting part of the scenario.

 

[The_J]

Does the Swordman-attacks-city-with-walls-and-the-game-crashes bug still consist?
Because i've found out, what's the reason.

In BtS, when a unit with city attack bonus charges a city with a wall, you see a siege tower.
If you do not have the siege tower in your artDefines, the game will search for it, not find it and crahs.
Search in the normal ArtDefines_units.xml for SIEGE_TOWER, and copy it over, it'll work.

No idea, where/how this is linked , a mysticism.

 

[AlanH]

There are a couple of threads in the Mac Civ4 forum discussing BtS for Mac. It's coming soon, and has been confirmed by Brad Oliver of Aspyr. They are also working on DLL support for a later release. No precise dates are stated, but Amazon are taking pre-orders for Mac BtS for delivery July 13.

 

[The_J]

That's good to hear, so i can abandon my planes for adding a real own dll to my mod .

And i hope to see more progress here .

 

[PsiCorps]

Any news on when this Mod will be available for BtS?

 

[Flintlock1415]

Well, I tried to install into Crossover as I just got Vanilla Civ (not Gold) but that install didn't work either. (I tried before to install using Civ Gold, but it wouldn't work so BTS couldn't be installed.)

So either I get this to work, BTS comes out for Mac, or I wait until I get a new, powerful Macbook Pro with Parallels. Even then, I have other things going on that would interest me more than getting this ported over.

So in short, it could be a while, if ever.

 

[The_J]

Don't give up, it has to work .

 

[nokmirt]

you know you can actually play warlords 2.08 mods without having the disk? Fireaxis messed up big on that, which is probably why they were so swift with the patch(s) afterwards. Try it out if you don't believe me, you can pop the cd out and it still runs all the same.

anyhow, do you know if this would work with warlords 2.13 or whatever the latest version is? Might be worth a try

Thats true I tried it...hilarious!

 

[Flintlock1415]

I think, that I want to start working on this again. BTS still won't install (I almost got it but I had a crash saying that it couldn't find crc.dat or something, and even after copying that in, it still wouldn't work. Any ideas would be great, but otherwise I give up [for now ]). I don't remember all of the current problems but I think my two leaderheads are a problem, and that city walls bug is still in there. (I'll try out The_J's solution to try fixing that.) I really want to work on Python scripts mostly, but I need to fix up the bugs first.

About the leaderheads, if anyone would offer to make a minimod to see if the leaderheads work in Windows by themselves, that would be awesome! If they still won't work, I'll start a new thread to see if any of the better artists around here can tell why they are bad.

I think I'm going to stick with Warlords for now, since there probably isn't much worth in me updating (esp. without BTS!) Once I get the Mac version, maybe someone can convince me otherwise .

I think I'll put in the Sobieski leaderhead as a placeholder for William (which I had originally) and find another for Harold until I can fix (or redo ) them. I'll try fixing the city walls bug, and then do a new release and go from there.

I want to fix up this mod pretty badly right now , but I might waffle back and forth between this and other programming/game making interests. (I will probably be helping with my Wild West mod for Colonization, which has been taken over by TC01.) I really hope you guys are as excited for this mod as I am!

 

[The_J]

About the leaderheads, if anyone would offer to make a minimod to see if the leaderheads work in Windows by themselves, that would be awesome!

What leaderheads do you mean?

I think I'm going to stick with Warlords for now, since there probably isn't much worth in me updating (esp. without BTS!) Once I get the Mac version, maybe someone can convince me otherwise .

End of the month, am i right?

I really hope you guys are as excited for this mod as I am!

Sure .

 

[Flintlock1415]

The leaderheads that I made (Harold and William)

Also I don't know if my Light Cavalry works.

BtS is slated for monday on Amazon, but who knows if they are right.

 

[Flintlock1415]

Okay, I've got the fixed version up. (Filefront is a million times faster than Atomicgamer!)

Download

Please check it out and make sure I didn't miss anything big, thanks!