welsh or british please?
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Psycadelic_Magi
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On that note, I hate it when people assume British and English are interchangeable... Quite clearly most of the time theyre talking about the english and not anything to do with wales, scotland, northern ireland... And yet they refer to us as 'the British' Thats four whole countries, fools!
Feyd Rautha
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Psycadelic_Magi said:
I know it is not the same, but you have to understand that in the States we have just that... states. Each state is very different in culture and history than its neighbor, some have been independent countries at one point or another, and yes...there have even been wars between them. All I'm saying is that try as you might, since you're all "united" under the Union Jack to us it looks like you're a "state" despite the nation's history and culture.
So next time someone over here says that just try to understand a bit I guess...they're not trying to be rude, but it's like Obi Wan says it's all about how you look at things.
Oh...and know that the converse of your feelings is true when you call someone from the Southern states a "Yank"
Matty R
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Britain isn't a country. Its 4 united countries. I guess the topic creator wants a more modern civilization, like how Britain conducts itself now. England doesn't send troops to other countries. Britain as a whole does.
vilemerchant
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Matty R said:Britain isn't a country. Its 4 united countries. I guess the topic creator wants a more modern civilization, like how Britain conducts itself now. England doesn't send troops to other countries. Britain as a whole does.
I thought it was one united country and 3 conquered and subjugated ones
Quotey
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Not really. Short history of the beggining:
James VI of Scotland (Son of Mary Tudor) was king of Scotland when Queen Victoria died. Vicky didn't have any heirs, so the natural option was to unite the countries. James VI of Scotland was ALSO James I of England, and that was basically when GB was formed.
James VI of Scotland (Son of Mary Tudor) was king of Scotland when Queen Victoria died. Vicky didn't have any heirs, so the natural option was to unite the countries. James VI of Scotland was ALSO James I of England, and that was basically when GB was formed.
ulsterman88
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Quotey said:
Not queen Victoria. James replaced Elizabeth I!!
james failed to unite England and Scotland in his reign because the english thought scotland was backward and barbaric
Matty R
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vilemerchant said:I thought it was one united country and 3 conquered and subjugated ones
Technically it is, but we don't say that incase we offend the underlings.
kristopherb
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Quotey said:
`techinally
the english empire was england and wales.
the british empire started when scotland united with england to create the britsh empire. or great britain,united kingdom.
kristopherb
Protective/Charismatic
have you ever heard of the ancient britonsMatty R said:Britain isn't a country. Its 4 united countries. I guess the topic creator wants a more modern civilization, like how Britain conducts itself now. England doesn't send troops to other countries. Britain as a whole does.
It's actually one country made up from two Kingdoms, a Pricipality and a... whatever the hell NI is - Feifdom, I think. All that, plus a few island states such as the Isle of Man, or Jersey, etc. I'm not sure what status Gibraltar has, but I think it's officially part of England. I know that the Isle of Wight (Wight being ye olde English for 'man' - confusingly), the Scilly Isles, and the Falklands are all part of England, and the northen islands (can't remember their names off hand) are part of Scotland.
Also you might be interested to know that Cardiff is the youngest capital city in Europe. There are older cities that have been the capital of their country for less time, but no cities less than 100 years old are capitals. Cardiff only qualfied to be called a city in 1905, and became the capital of Wales in 1955. [/random fact]
Also you might be interested to know that Cardiff is the youngest capital city in Europe. There are older cities that have been the capital of their country for less time, but no cities less than 100 years old are capitals. Cardiff only qualfied to be called a city in 1905, and became the capital of Wales in 1955. [/random fact]
MooManof_ said:
The isle of man is NOT a part of the uk, its a crown dependancy, or "protectorate" which is a more old fashioned term i think. It is not a constituant country at all and is not ruled directly. (ruled even less directly than bermuda)
Another fact. Wales is the oldest civilization in the uk.. stonehendge was built by people from early wales even though there was no welsh nation then as such. But the welsh language existed and is the oldest surviving european language to date (meaning it never died out)
I am surprised that they put america and england in the game, i mean compared to wales and some ancient civilizations, england is relatively new.. maybe like less than 1000 years old? and america is less than 3 hundred.
Wales on the other hand is right there with the first civilizations on the planet.
Ok, I admit I wasn't too sure about the Isle of Man, but Stonehenge was built by the Britons who were driven into the Welsh mountains by the Angles and the Saxons. England as a coherant nation is about 1500 years old, give or take a century, and is older than most European nations including (barely) France and Germany. The UK on the other hand is about 500-600 years old, and even then has more history than the US. Although the US did reach it's peak rather quickly (admittedly by borrowing heavily from other countries early on), and should be in the game as a superpower of sorts... I just like then in the game because they often make easy allies with the English (myself and I can 'encourage' them to do my bidding 
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)MooManof_ said:Ok, I admit I wasn't too sure about the Isle of Man, but Stonehenge was built by the Britons who were driven into the Welsh mountains by the Angles and the Saxons. England as a coherant nation is about 1500 years old, give or take a century, and is older than most European nations including (barely) France and Germany. The UK on the other hand is about 500-600 years old, and even then has more history than the US. Although the US did reach it's peak rather quickly (admittedly by borrowing heavily from other countries early on), and should be in the game as a superpower of sorts... I just like then in the game because they often make easy allies with the English (myself and I can 'encourage' them to do my bidding
LOL check your history. They was not britons that was drove into the hills of wales by angles and saxons. since the angles and saxons didnt exist back then!
it was 10 thousand years ago the first stonehendge was built and it was built in wales. they then started to spread from wales through england and north west france.. the civilization originated in wales NOT england.
BTW you can technically call them britons as they are from the british isles, but they still originated in wales.
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