What 5 Civilizations Should Always Be In Civ?

[Nachos]

China
Persia
Egypt
Greece
Rome

These civs outmatch the other civs easily

 

[Kyriakos]

Greece and Egypt tie at third spot with 217 votes each...
Rome and China are not losing 1rst and 2nd place, and neither is England losing 5th.

 

[Daniel Jackson]

Rome, Greece, and China are shoe-ins, the others I think are toss-ups.

 

[Jecrell]

How so ?

It's not because we recognize the importance of a civ, that we necessarily want to play them...

This thread is really about which Civilizations are to be kept in Civilization. Civilization... the game. Not list the top 5 civilizations of history imo. Too many people taking this out or proportion rather than keeping things simple. For instance the Japanese have a fairly low percent when many people clearly play as them.

Now, would it make more sense to remove the Civilizations that people play the most or woudl it make more sense to remove the Civilizations that people play the least? After all, this is Civilization the game, not Civilization the documentation of the history of man.

 

[Cyberstar]

Rome: Greater than Greece and shaped all of western civilization
Egypt: 5000+ year history. Did you know that a few weeks ago they held their first election ever that had more than one candidate?
China: Also 5000+ year history. Still has not ever had a free election.
England: The greatest of the European civs - decendents of the Romans, even more so than the Italians.
Russia: Long, sorted history. Periods of greatness. Massive country with huge population.

 

[Akka]

England: The greatest of the European civs - decendents of the Romans, even more so than the Italians.

I find both your affirmation quite wrong...

 

[meatwad4289]

1. Rome - cuz the pwn it all
2. America - cuz they kept pwning when Rome was gone.
3. England - God save the queen?
4. Russia - In soviet union game plays you!
5. Germany - love going to war against Germany.

 

[sydhe]

1) China
2) Babylon (including Sumeria)
3) Egypt
4) Greece
5) Rome

 

[dpaajones]

Clearly not. As said previously, their [England's] cultural contributions were very small

Says someone writing in England's language, now the de facto world language.

 

[dpaajones]

Anyway, I voted for:

Rome
Greece
England
China
Japan

Though Egypt and India would be numbers 6 and 7.

 

[Akka]

Says someone writing in England's language, now the de facto world language.

England by itself has little to do with the use of english's language as world language. That was USA's doing.
England was definitely a world power, and had quite a lot of influence in Europe, but I find that it's outshined A LOT by the Antiquity civilizations, and also quite outranked by Spain and France up to the relatively modern era.

 

[dpaajones]

And England has nothing to do with the USA's creation or the way that nation behaves and is organised today?

Um.

 

[Swedishguy]

The Aztecs should always be with us!

 

[Akka]

And England has nothing to do with the USA's creation or the way that nation behaves and is organised today?

Um.

Ok.

So, well, the Norman were French, and they are at the origin of England, so France should take all credit for England's accomplishment, so France outshine England as the latter is part of the former.

Thanks for defeating your own argument

 

[Swedishguy]

Yes, cuz' they don't exist anymore!(Romans)

 

[Bast]

So, well, the Norman were French, and they are at the origin of England, so France should take all credit for England's accomplishment, so France outshine England as the latter is part of the former.

It's too simplistic to view it like this. Whilst the Norman Conquest was a huge event in English history, it didn't make England "French". Remember that Anglo-Saxon language and culture existed before the Norman Conquest and the two simply molded together gradually and then completely by the end of the Middle Ages. So that by the early modern period England as a distinct identity emerged.

 

[dpaajones]

Ok.

So, well, the Norman were French, and they are at the origin of England, so France should take all credit for England's accomplishment, so France outshine England as the latter is part of the former.

Thanks for defeating your own argument

Your understanding of history is weak.

 

[Tulx]

My list would be egypt ,russia,france,england,china.

 

[Red Door]

Did you guys not notice this thread is more than a year old.

 

[Bast]

England by itself has little to do with the use of english's language as world language. That was USA's doing.

Also, this is absolutely wrong. English is a world language because of the British Empire. It has nothing to do with the USA. USA and American English is only 'influential' now because of modern media especially the internet.