What additional DLC civilizations would you like to see in the Modern Age?

[TheSpaceCowboy]

The Modern civs I’d prioritize to add first to the game:

1. African - Ethiopian
2. Arabian - United Arab Emerites
3. British Isles - United Kingdom
4. East Asia - South Korea
5. European - Switzerland
6. Levant - Israel
7. Northern - Sweden
8. South America - Argentina

Modern Age Leaders in the same Expansion Pack:

1. Alfred Nobel
2. Dwight D. Eisenhower or Jacqueline Kennedy
3. Eva Perón
4. Gandhi (Pacifist & Nuclear personae)
5. Haile Selassie
6. Jacob Grimm or Richard Wagner
7. John Henry Newman
8. Karol Józef Wojtyła
9. Salvador Dalí
10. Simón Bolívar

 

[Acid.Crash]

Ottoman Empire
British Empire
Austrian Empire
Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth

 

[sTAPler27]

I will always be the biggest advocate for adding the Metis as modern age native rep

 

[stealth_nsk]

I think the potential inclusion of the 4th age makes this poll much more difficult.

 

[Uberfrog]

I am torn about where to place the Ottomans, who I think had their power so clearly in the age of exploration. Similar story with the Safavids.

So I will pick my top 4: British Empire, Empire of Brazil, Ashanti and Qajar Iran.

 

[untitledjuan]

I will always be the biggest advocate for adding the Metis as modern age native rep

Louis Riel as a leader could work to represent the Métis of Canada

 

[Wabnosa]

Lakota Souix 7 council fires are modern age. Lakota would be fun but the land is probably all picked over and I don't see how you do it without pissing them off and making a different game. Same for Comanche, they are modern. I'm all for it if they have ideas not to make them industrial. Because I don't think they want that.

Cherokee is a good idea for modern, plantations, printing press. Tecumseh has kinfolk there today.

 

[Krajzen]

Why is there no Egypt as an option? Muhammad Ali's Egypt would be a fantastic modern civ, and finally a possibility for poor Islamic Egypt to appear in civ series (then you add one of its great Islamic dynasties for the second era and voila). Muhammad Ali could appear himself as well.

For the same reason I kinda like the notion of Greece getting modern era incarnation, though it has been significantly less influential than Egypt in the 19th and 20th centuries. I would also be fine with Peru becoming modern era civ, just to finish inevitable Andean line, even if it hasn't been very important - but neither was Buganda or Shawnee

 

[Acid.Crash]

Why is there no Egypt as an option? Muhammad Ali's Egypt would be a fantastic modern civ, and finally a possibility for poor Islamic Egypt to appear in civ series (then you add one of its great Islamic dynasties for the second era and voila). Muhammad Ali could appear himself as well.

For the same reason I kinda like the notion of Greece getting modern era incarnation, though it has been significantly less influential than Egypt in the 19th and 20th centuries. I would also be fine with Peru becoming modern era civ, just to finish inevitable Andean line, even if it hasn't been very important - but neither was Buganda or Shawnee

This actually is a good point. It would be good if some civs, presented in "Ancient era" could be brought back in later era.

 

[gdr_willter]

BTW, that's the reason why I want to see the 4th Age as the return of the previous Civs you played in the match. I prefer the final Egypt civ as the actual mixed combo of Antiquity Egypt and Exploration Abbasid I went through, instead of the preset and unchangeable IRL Egypt Arab Republic.

 

[Uberfrog]

For modern age leaders I can see Haile Selassie returning alongside an Ethiopian civ, with a diplomatic focus.

For South America I would have welcome the return of Bolívar (and still would!) but militaristic and revolutionary leaders seem to be in abundance at launch!

 

[Krikkit1]

BTW, that's the reason why I want to see the 4th Age as the return of the previous Civs you played in the match. I prefer the final Egypt civ as the actual mixed combo of Antiquity Egypt and Exploration Abbasid I went through, instead of the preset and unchangeable IRL Egypt Arab Republic.

A preset 4th age Egypt
1. would have Traditions from the previous 3 civs
2. would have unique buildings/improvements in many cities from the 3 previous civs
3. would probably have Wonders from the 3 previous civs
4. would choose its government/ideology in that era

 

[sTAPler27]

Louis Riel as a leader could work to represent the Métis of Canada

I made a concept for both

Thread 'Louis Riel - Leader Concept'

Jan 18, 2025

A companion piece to the Metis concept I made not too long ago. Even if the Metis themselves aren't added (which I really hope they are) he could realistically lead any of the North American indigenous groups, anyone in the French historical path or even Mexico as another North American nation with a similar history to that of the Metis. While we several leaders with diplomatic abilities Riel would exceed at gaining influence in times of peace which he could invest during times of War to make conflict a pain. And importantly it would be nice to have an indigenous leader to represent the...

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[gdr_willter]

A preset 4th age Egypt
1. would have Traditions from the previous 3 civs
2. would have unique buildings/improvements in many cities from the 3 previous civs
3. would probably have Wonders from the 3 previous civs
4. would choose its government/ideology in that era

Well, this is the point exactly. When my 4th Age Egypt have Traditions, Infrastructures, Settlements, Wonders and People of the previous 3 Civs, why it have to be the one certain form of Egypt regardless of them?

It must be the result. I will want the final Egypt which have the identity formed from the previous Civs. There is no reason that it have to be the IRL one which is the result/mixture of Egypt, Greco-Roman and Islam empire. It can be the result of Egypt -> Mongolia -> Russia, Egypt -> Songhai -> Buganda, Egypt -> Norman -> America, and any pathway you chose.

You can say about: "You already chose the preset Civs in the other Ages, why can't do that in the 4th Age?" But I think there is some differences between the historical and contemporary things.

1. The 4th Age will be the narrative end of the playthrough. I think every existing Civs in the game must have its 4th Age version as its narrative finale.
2. The history and the legacy of the ancestor civilizations became more important in the contemporary world after the spread of the concept of the modern national identity. The most of contemporary nations teach the national history to find their identity from their glorious ancestors.
3. Merging those factors above, we face the collision between the stiff national identity of IRL countries and the alt-history in the game. They can't represent my playthrough anymore.

We now know there are such a cool narrative flavor texts that explain how the unlocked Civs interact in the living history of your empire. It works well with the pre-modern history, but faces the problem after the Modern Age. I can't imagine the narrative event describing "Egypt Arab Republic" people arises in your non-Islam playthrough only started with Egypt.