What exactly did Christ accomplish when he died for our sins?

[Narz]

Seriously.

 

[Turner]

Read your bible, Narz. It's all there.

 

[GenMarshall]

Well, I am a fallen uncatechized Catholic. So I would have little idea on what Christ accomplished when he died except died for our sins. Again, I remind you that I am unchurched and uncatechized.

 

[Turner]

Really, Narz, I could tell you, but you need to discover it for yourself. Actually, that right there is my main point against Christianity. While it works for others, it doesn't for me.

 

[stormbind]

For atheists, I guess his death exposes how weak, pathetic, dishonourable and back-stabbing human nature really is. It serves as a warning.

For Christians, it means that and much more.

 

[Quasar1011]

Tetelestai. Which is "paid in full" in ancient Greek.

 

[Narz]

Tetelestai. Which is "paid in full" in ancient Greek. :jesus"

Hmmm, but haven't we sinned alot since 35AD (or whenever)? Shouldn't he come back and die every ten years or so?

 

[Quasar1011]

Hmmm, but haven't we sinned alot since 35AD (or whenever)? Shouldn't he come back and die every ten years or so?

Nope.

Romans 6:10
The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.

Hebrews 7:27
Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself.

Hebrews 9:12
He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves; but he entered the Most Holy Place once for all by his own blood, having obtained eternal redemption.

Hebrews 10:10
And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

1 Peter 3:18
For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit,

 

[ComradeDavo]

I don't believe Jesus actually existed. I have seen no historical proof from the time time, no eye witness accounts, no real evidence. No writers from the time mention him.

 

[predesad]

He made it possible for man to be reconciled with God.

 

[Dida]

When jesus died on the cross, he made it possible for god (who by some weird logic is at the same time both himself and his Father) to forgive the sin of those who believed in him, which of course, contradicts with the christian belief that god is all powerful. Because if god is all powerful, jesus doesn't need to die on the cross (god can simply forgive us and open a new door); on the other hand, if his death is necessary, then god isn't all powerful, because he is bounded by some law.

 

[puglover]

Since Adam's Fall we have an unclean nature. Since God values justice, he can't just forgive the sinful nature of the world and let us into his eternal presence. But instead of destroying us, he took the punishment himself in our place. He rose himself up again, and those that accept God's substitute can go to him in Heaven.

His motive was his love for mankind, and the desire to bring us into his presence.

 

[Quasar1011]

When jesus died on the cross, he made it possible for god (who by some weird logic is at the same time both himself and his Father) to forgive the sin of those who believed in him, which of course, contradicts with the christian belief that god is all powerful. Because if god is all powerful, jesus doesn't need to die on the cross (god can simply forgive us and open a new door); on the other hand, if his death is necessary, then god isn't all powerful, because he is bounded by some law.

Pretty convoluted logic there. Ever stop to think, that if God is "bounded by some law", that He is the one who made that law? An All-Powerful Being would not want to countermand His own law, would He? And who could force Him to do so?

You are correct in saying that Jesus didn't need to die on the cross. But, He wanted to.

 

[The Last Conformist]

What exactly did Christ accomplish when he died for our sins?

Immortal fame.

 

[blackheart]

Pretty convoluted logic there. Ever stop to think, that if God is "bounded by some law", that He is the one who made that law? An All-Powerful Being would not want to countermand His own law, would He? And who could force Him to do so?

You are correct in saying that Jesus didn't need to die on the cross. But, He wanted to.

Why would an all powerful being need to make a law in the first place?

 

[puglover]

Why would an all powerful being need to make a law in the first place?

He's a just God. It's in his nature.

When jesus died on the cross, he made it possible for god (who by some weird logic is at the same time both himself and his Father) to forgive the sin of those who believed in him, which of course, contradicts with the christian belief that god is all powerful. Because if god is all powerful, jesus doesn't need to die on the cross (god can simply forgive us and open a new door); on the other hand, if his death is necessary, then god isn't all powerful, because he is bounded by some law.

Again, he is a just God. He can't just "forgive" else he'd be letting criminals into his presence, which would contradict his nature.

 

[GenMarshall]

Since Adam's Fall we have an unclean nature. Since God values justice, he can't just forgive the sinful nature of the world and let us into his eternal presence. But instead of destroying us, he took the punishment himself in our place. He rose himself up again, and those that accept God's substitute can go to him in Heaven.

His motive was his love for mankind, and the desire to bring us into his presence.

And after rediscovering Jesus. I beleve in this .

 

[Turner]

If god is all powerful and all knowing, why does he need our worship?

 

[puglover]

If god is all powerful and all knowing, why does he need our worship?

He loves us.

@Civgeneral: Congratulations!

 

[Turner]

He loves us, so he requires us to worship him? That's some messed up version of love, if you ask me.

I love my kids, but I don't require that the worship me.