Sultan Bhargash
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Those who express a belief in "The Holy Spirit", could you explain exactly what it is you think you believe in?
What is the Holy Spirit?
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Japher
Voted for Bush
Ja, mon.
Mojotronica
Expect Irony.
If the Universe were Star Wars, the Holy Spirit would be the Force, Yoda would be the Father and Luke would be the Son.
Anakin/Vadar represents humanity and the Emporer/Palpatine represents Satan.
I guess that makes Obi-Wan John the Baptist.
Anakin/Vadar represents humanity and the Emporer/Palpatine represents Satan.
I guess that makes Obi-Wan John the Baptist.
Mojotronica
Expect Irony.
Damn I'm a geek.
addiv
Hero of our time
lol
thestonesfan
A Client of Ron Kuby
Too bad Luke didn't get crucified...
I thought Jar-Jar represented Satan?
Or is he there so the audience can represent Job?
I thought Jar-Jar represented Satan?
Or is he there so the audience can represent Job?
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Do You Believe in "The Holy Spirit"?
Certainly not.
Certainly not.
Johann MacLeod
Duc de Lorraine
not really, no
Zcylen
Moonlight Rambler
why not?
if people belive in witches, why not belive in the holy spirit?
if people belive in witches, why not belive in the holy spirit?
smalltalk
monkey business
When I should try to make sense out of the trinity story, it would go like this:
We are where dead matter, organic life and the spark of self-consciousnes merge.
Metaphoricly spoken:
the Holy Spirit stands for the Truth and the Logos, the laws of nature and the realm of all ideas.
The Father is the actual matter/energy of our universe.
The Son - that would be us: the sentient, self-conscious beings of the universe.
We are where dead matter, organic life and the spark of self-consciousnes merge.
Metaphoricly spoken:
the Holy Spirit stands for the Truth and the Logos, the laws of nature and the realm of all ideas.
The Father is the actual matter/energy of our universe.
The Son - that would be us: the sentient, self-conscious beings of the universe.
Benderino
Loyal American Democrat
Nature?
CurtSibling
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Witches are real living beings.
(Not to say the so-called power they follow is real either.)
It is time humankind removed the shackles of childish reliance on mouldy dogma.
The whole fanciful concept is a product of mass hysteria.
onejayhawk
Afflicted with reason
Silly children. There is no simple explanation of what the Spirit is, other than to say he is that part of God that comes to each person individually. It is much easier to talk about what the Spirit does, than what he is, and even that is not particularly easy.
There is a clear distinction between the Spirit as described in the Old Testament and the one described in the New Testament. In the OT the Spirit of God, literally the Breath of God, was a gift that came, bestowed and left.
In the NT the Spirit is refered to as a person, most often called the Comforter, in addition to his name. This Spirit is indwelling and was visible on the first Pentacost as a tongue of fire appearing over the heads of the Apostles. And tongues spreading out like a fire appeared to them and came to rest on each one of them. All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit, and they began to speak in other languages as the Spirit enabled them. Acts 2: 3,4. From that point onward the 11 surviving Apostles were energized and empowered after a month and a half of living in fear of reprisals from the Jewish leaders that had arranged Jesus' execution, especilly since Jesus body was missing and the disciples weree being blamed for stealing it (Not that this made much sense. There was an elite Roman guard tasked to preventing that very event, but that's another discussion).
For all of the Spirit's importance, there is surprisingly little written about it. Mostly it is refered to in passages like the one quoted to explain the force of a speaker, or as the manifestation or conduit of God's action in a person's life, eg In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness, for we do not know how we should pray, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with inexpressible groanings. And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes on behalf of the saints according to Gods will.Romans 8: 26,27.
In Christian theology, Man is powerless to change his condition. The Spirit is the avenue which God uses to reach out and touch each individual person, so that in the end some will find the way. He is our personal guide to heaven if you will.
J
There is a clear distinction between the Spirit as described in the Old Testament and the one described in the New Testament. In the OT the Spirit of God, literally the Breath of God, was a gift that came, bestowed and left.
In the NT the Spirit is refered to as a person, most often called the Comforter, in addition to his name. This Spirit is indwelling and was visible on the first Pentacost as a tongue of fire appearing over the heads of the Apostles. And tongues spreading out like a fire appeared to them and came to rest on each one of them. All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit, and they began to speak in other languages as the Spirit enabled them. Acts 2: 3,4. From that point onward the 11 surviving Apostles were energized and empowered after a month and a half of living in fear of reprisals from the Jewish leaders that had arranged Jesus' execution, especilly since Jesus body was missing and the disciples weree being blamed for stealing it (Not that this made much sense. There was an elite Roman guard tasked to preventing that very event, but that's another discussion).
For all of the Spirit's importance, there is surprisingly little written about it. Mostly it is refered to in passages like the one quoted to explain the force of a speaker, or as the manifestation or conduit of God's action in a person's life, eg In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness, for we do not know how we should pray, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with inexpressible groanings. And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes on behalf of the saints according to Gods will.Romans 8: 26,27.
In Christian theology, Man is powerless to change his condition. The Spirit is the avenue which God uses to reach out and touch each individual person, so that in the end some will find the way. He is our personal guide to heaven if you will.
J
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Look, old man Hawk is calling us silly children.
You are the one you spends his life calling himself a sinner, cringing in fear and bowing to an invisible deity concept.
Who is the silly one here?
You are the one you spends his life calling himself a sinner, cringing in fear and bowing to an invisible deity concept.
Who is the silly one here?
Benderino
Loyal American Democrat
I don't believe in either. Who believes in witches, BTW?
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I do, because I know several. They are only men and women.
It's like asking: "Who believes in christians?"
It's like asking: "Who believes in christians?"
newfangle
hates you.
Direct hit, my friend. Twas rather brave to utter such an adulturous comment, no?
