What is the ultimate strategy game for you?

[damunzy]

This can be a sim-like game, war strategy, tycoon-like game, realtime strategy, or even board game that you just love.

For me it would be Civ2....I am tired of it (not enough options), but I like it better than Civ3.

 

[Richard III]

Diplomacy, naturally.

 

[Furry Spatula]

Risk with the max amount of players outside camping by torch light listening to Led Zepplin, and ofcourse you need some mosquito repelent. But inside with candels is just as good.

 

[Higher Game]

Starcraft owns you all! ^^ As for turn based, I like People's General and Civ 3.

 

[Dell19]

Medieval total war or Age of Empires 1 and 2.

 

[G-Man]

total war series and civ series. If I don't feel like thinking then maybe some c&c game.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Civ3 and/or Romance of the Three Kingdoms VII.

 

[Lucky]

The Civ series on the grand scale of world domination, of course.

Cossacks for early industrial RTS warfare, alá Napoleon.

Starcraft for space RTS strategy.

Some others are also quite good.

 

[Flatlander Fox]

Diplomacy is naturally the best strategy game ever made, due to the fact that there is NO random factors involved.

You make your own luck. Or lack of.

None of the games above (sans RIII's post) match up.

Zero.

 

[MajorGeneral2]

I've never seen Diplomacy either in a store or on the Internet. Then again, I've never looked. Anyway, I would say Ogre Battle 64. It's long, and somewhat tedious in parts, but the plot and battle systems are great.
I'm surprised at how many people didn't say one of the Civilization games.

 

[Suppersalmon]

Civ serirs
AOE2
Diplomecy

 

[tonberry]

Romance of the three kindoms 7.

 

[Perfection]

BoardGame Risk
RTS Total Annhilation
TBS Civ 3
SIM Sim City 3000 Unlimited (Sim City 4 is coming soon and looks like it will take the cake)

 

[Sanaz]

Maybe I'm archaic, but I say Chess.

 

[Furry Spatula]

You know what, I love chess, the only problem is I cannot find anybody who shares my enthusiasm, and i dont like electronic chess, including online. Thus Risk is a good alternative as it still requires brain power. Well some brain power

 

[rwprice]

Originally posted by Furry Spatula
You know what, I love chess, the only problem is I cannot find anybody who shares my enthusiasm, and i dont like electronic chess, including online. Thus Risk is a good alternative as it still requires brain power. Well some brain power

I'm with you--I think chess is a wonderful game, but I also like the electronic versions of it. I think it makes for a great game when I can't find a human opponent.

I'm curious: what do you like about chess and how do you think it compares to strategy games like Civ? Obviously, they're in different categories, but they attract similar people. For me, one of the advantages of chess is that there is no luck involved--I can't be beaten by a bad roll of the die. On the downside, I think chess requires a lot more brainpower and concentrated effort. You can't afford to say "let's just move this unit over here and see what happens".

 

[knowltok2]

Originally posted by rwprice


I'm with you--I think chess is a wonderful game, but I also like the electronic versions of it. I think it makes for a great game when I can't find a human opponent.

I'm curious: what do you like about chess and how do you think it compares to strategy games like Civ? Obviously, they're in different categories, but they attract similar people. For me, one of the advantages of chess is that there is no luck involved--I can't be beaten by a bad roll of the die. On the downside, I think chess requires a lot more brainpower and concentrated effort. You can't afford to say "let's just move this unit over here and see what happens".

That's the interesting thing about chess. Its simplicity relative to CIV means that greater intelligence is required to be really successful at it. You can't play chess by feel and principle. It is all hard mathematics. So is Civ, but the complexity in absolute terms is beyond our ability to truely master in the way that chess can be mastered (by a few).

On a side note, I wonder how good of an AI could be constructed for CIV 1 with today's technology. We keep getting AI's that need help to compete, but obviously computing power has increased dramatically. So too has game complexity. I think that these may be going hand in hand and acting as a limit on AI ability. That or programmers know they only have to make it so good, and beyond that it take way too much effort ($) for too little gain.

Ramble over.

 

[Richard III]

Originally posted by Furry Spatula
You know what, I love chess, the only problem is I cannot find anybody who shares my enthusiasm, and i dont like electronic chess, including online. Thus Risk is a good alternative as it still requires brain power. Well some brain power

Are you any good?

I'm no more than "okay," but am looking for someone who is (a) happy with the fact that I haven't seen a PBEM notation system in 25 years, and (b) happy to go at a nice slow pace, as in a move a day or so, since I have a set on my liquor cabinet in my office and it seems a waste just to use it as decoration.

Sorry to thread jack...

But chess fans show know that that is the charm of Diplomacy, often described as "chess and risk merged into one."

R.III

 

[Furry Spatula]

I agree that chess is realy good because there is no luck factor however since i do not get a chance to play that often, i tend to end up sucking quite badly.

So sorry Richard III i wont be able to play, plus i dont think I would be able to last that long playing by mail.

 

[Alcibiaties of Athenae]

I would say, for strategy, my fav was Victory in the Pacific, with Russian campaign close (both AH wargames from the 1970s).