What is with the backlash against feminism?

[Senethro]

Eh?

Murder is typically viewed as bad and yet racist lynchings happened in societies where observing the rule of law otherwise was typical. Punishment on the books won't act as a deterrent if poorly enforced or there are other factors.

Crazy exes seek revenge all the time. There's nothing misogynistic about crazy exes seeking revenge because both sexes do it. Again we see here the thread of 'it it happens to a woman it's sexism'.

My anecdotes disagree, men are crazier exes. However as an alternative to discussing my life lets look at partner murder statistics.
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/crime.../rpt---chapter-2---homicide.html?format=print
fig 2.4
45% of female murder victims were killed by partners/ex partners compared with 4% of men. That looks like a pattern of male violence in relationships.

Jack Thompson, Phil Fish, Roger Ebert. Loads of men get abuse and death threats, what exactly makes it magically sexism just because the target is a woman?

It looks on a whole different scale to me (and I suspect many other people). My male friends don't get doxxed, the heavy breathing phone calls or stalked but my female ones do.

 

[Farm Boy]

My anecdotes disagree, men are crazier exes. However as an alternative to discussing my life lets look at partner murder statistics.
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/crime.../rpt---chapter-2---homicide.html?format=print
fig 2.4
45% of female murder victims were killed by partners/ex partners compared with 4% of men. That looks like a pattern of male violence in relationships.

If you want to use murder rates the problem isn't actually that there is a pattern of male violence in relationships(true though that may be), the problem is that there is a pattern of male violence period. Men murder each other, if anything women receive some insulation from homicide rates. So yes, if one wants to look specifically at one situation in which homicides occur, men offend more often than women do. But that's not unique, men offend more often than women do in every(?) different situation too. My money is on it being a mix of culture and brain chemistry, but if we want to tackle the issue of male on female violence through culture I'd also guess this is more a ''men's health issue'' at it's root than it is one of gender equality.

 

[Senethro]

huh sounds a lot like the toxic masculinity concept as described by feminism that hurts men as well as women

 

[jackelgull]

the way people get angry at their exes doesn't seem to me to be a good indicator of misogyny. It just means they're angry at their exes and want to ruin their lives. Tragic? Yes. But is misogyny at the heart of it? Probably not. A better statistic would be domestic abuse rates, since that is more likelier to be rooted in sexism and contempt for the other gender. Even then, those statistics might be unreliable given that it is difficult for both genders to report cases of abuse. Female because the community might side with the male, and males because nobody believes that males can be abused.

 

[Farm Boy]

huh sounds a lot like the toxic masculinity concept as described by feminism that hurts men as well as women

Yes, there is good in that concept. Socialization practically must play some form of a role. Socialization has power. But as we get more nuanced in our understanding of biochemistry affecting our behavior in everything from gut bacteria to inheritable proneness to addiction it would be doing one helluva disservice to The Cause if we fail to approach the issue of testosterone and violence heavily as a men's(primarily) health issue. I don't have high hopes, though, if our society's current treatment of mental health disorders is any indication. I anticipate the recommended treatment more to resemble social academic's version of ''Bootstrap your masculinity you toxic Neanderthal'' or the less academic and no more backwards ''Tough on crime!'' I would be delighted to be surprised.

 

[Smote]

I don't have high hopes...I would be delighted to be surprised.

A wise philosophy.