What makes a Christian a good Christian?

[CheScott]

Whats to interpret in this particular scripture? How many interpretations of what Jesus said can there be on this particular scripture?

I think you are simply in denial.

As typical of a great many people that wish to deny what the bible says because it doesnt fit into their lifestyle/opinion/outlook.

And to even listen to anything anyone else ever says about the subject, you are clearly denying Jesus in any way, shape or form.

We're all very lucky that MobBoss' aura of Divinity prevents him from comprehending anyone else's interpretation. If that were possible, he would not be here for fear of being infected by the light of what someone else thinks about something.

Oh, wait. I thought of something. Okay, here is my objection. I believe that (arbitrary, what book was it even in? ) particular part of the cannon was mistakenly included by the Council when the Cannon of Biblical Scripture was made official.

This is a plausible reason to want to hear other opinions other than yours, MobBoss.

 

[MobBoss]

We're all very lucky that MobBoss' aura of Divinity prevents him from comprehending anyone else's interpretation. If that were possible, he would not be here for fear of being infected by the light of what someone else thinks about something.

Then feel free to interpret it for me. Are you really going to give me a different intrepretation? By all means explain to me a different interpretation when Jesus says "there is no one good, not even me. God alone is good."

Knock yourself out.

You see, there are a great many passages in scripture that can indeed by interpreted in a variety of ways. But not all of them are that way. Some are quite straight forward and singular in their meaning. This particular one is one of them.

You, however, are free to disagree with that wisdom all you want.

Oh, wait. I thought of something. Okay, here is my objection. I believe that (arbitrary, what book was it even in? ) particular part of the cannon was mistakenly included by the Council when the Cannon of Biblical Scripture was made official.

So you offer no interpretation, just that the entire bible is false due to mans tampering. /shrug.

Do you have any proof to back up your allegation?

This is a plausible reason to want to hear other opinions other than yours, MobBoss.

But of course. As long as you understand that not all opinions are equal.

 

[nonconformist]

Being socialistic is a Christian trait according to Joshua ben Joseph

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Hmm . . . no. There is no virtue in being generous with other people's time and money.

 

[JollyRoger]

But of course. As long as you understand that not all opinions are equal.

It's just common sense that some opinions should be heavily discounted.

 

[MobBoss]

Being socialistic is a Christian trait according to Joshua ben Joseph

I wouldnt call it socialism, but individually charitable. There would be no desire for governmental socialism if we all practiced it individually.

 

[nonconformist]

I wouldnt call it socialism, but individually charitable. There would be no desire for governmental socialism if we all practiced it individually.

So what is the whole "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's", because to me that definitely sounds like a condonation of governmental taxation.

 

[MobBoss]

It's just common sense that some opinions should be heavily discounted.

I agree totally Jolly. Some people know what they are talking about in discussing a topic...and some people dont.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

So what is the whole "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's", because to me that definitely sounds like a condonation of governmental taxation.

He condoned paying one's taxes . . . he didn't tell Caesar how much to take.

 

[JollyRoger]

I wouldnt call it socialism, but individually charitable. There would be no desire for governmental socialism if we all practiced it individually.

Well, since we insist on the government licensing sacraments such as marriage (and providing collective, special benefits for those who get licensed), then I can see where the idea that government is an intermediary in religious concepts has a tendency to be an accepted norm.

 

[scy12]

Jesus said to have the faith of a child...not like Einstein. I think I will go with Jesus on that one.

What Jesus said here is stupid. You should go with the Faith of a man that can analyze what he is reading and not with the faith of one who will accept anything he eats of. Christians who make an effort to take only the best parts of the Bible are certainly the wisest. And i have no problem with the fact they where Christians like someone else said that 3000 years old book was just an inspiration for them to make there choices.

 

[MobBoss]

So what is the whole "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's", because to me that definitely sounds like a condonation of governmental taxation.

Was Rome a socialist government? Nope. Dont confuse paying taxes with supporting socialism.

I think Jesus' quote in regards to taxation simply an extension of the fact that his kingdom is not of this world, thus what does he care about Rome? Basically while in the world, you are under some type of governmental rule, so pay your taxes, etc. But the governments of the world have no sway in the spritual world, where his kingdom is.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

He said give to God what is God's, not give to Caesar what is God's. And everything he said indicated that he viewed giving away one's goods to help the poor as the domain of God.

 

[scy12]

Was Rome a socialist government? Nope. Dont confuse paying taxes with supporting socialism.

I think Jesus' quote in regards to taxation simply an extension of the fact that his kingdom is not of this world, thus what does he care about Rome? Basically while in the world, you are under some type of governmental rule, so pay your taxes, etc. But the governments of the world have no sway in the spritual world, where his kingdom is.

Jesus said that it is easier for a camel to enter the small space in a sewing needle (You understand what i mean the current word i wanted to use here escapes me) than for a rich one to enter the heavens. It seems you are also selective but you are actually taking the bad parts of that 3000 years old book.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Well, if he literally meant that rich people can't get into heaven, then using a socialist government to ensure there are no rich people is essentially using the government to help people be saved.

Supporters of the separation of Church and State can't have this.

 

[MobBoss]

What Jesus said here is stupid. You should go with the Faith of a man that can analyze what he is reading and not with the faith of one who will accept anything he eats of.

What he said is not stupid at all. People can be too smart for their own good. Or even over-think a simple situation completely. A childs faith is uncompromising and simple, and for that - powerful.

Christians who make an effort to take only the best parts of the Bible are certainly the wisest.

Not at all. Christians who pay attention to both the best and the worst parts with understanding and comprehension are the wisest. Not all lessons learned in life are pleasant - some of the best ones you can learn hurt quite a bit.

In other words - you speak unwisely.

 

[JollyRoger]

He said give to God what is God's, not give to Caesar what is God's. And everything he said indicated that he viewed giving away one's goods to help the poor as the domain of God.

Based on negative net worth, the government is about as poor as you can get.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Who asks more questions - children or adults?

 

[MobBoss]

Jesus said that it is easier for a camel to enter the small space in a sewing needle (You understand what i mean the current word i wanted to use here escapes me) than for a rich one to enter the heavens. It seems you are also selective but you are actually taking the bad parts of that 3000 years old book.

You are correct he did say this - but he didnt say turn all your cash over to Rome. The point was a rich man should be charitable with his earnings and take care of the widows and orphans, and be a blessing to his fellow man, not greedy with his cash.

And thats not a 'bad part' of that old book. Thats one of the good parts.

 

[scy12]

You are correct he did say this - but he didnt say turn all your cash over to Rome. The point was a rich man should be charitable with his earnings and take care of the widows and orphans, and be a blessing to his fellow man, not greedy with his cash.

And thats not a 'bad part' of that old book. Thats one of the good parts.

Actually it is both good and bad. But he does not say the rich should give to the poor. No , Jesus is a communist he says there must not be any rich because for one being a rich means that he is the one who has two chairs and has not given to his neighbor who has none , one. Church obviously is against this because there are many Greedy people in such institutions. But i would say that it may be for the best of the churches and other corporations and of Humanity's that they didn't closely follow it. However that is what he said. In summary, rich = not Kingdom of heavens.

What of a Christian are you when you intentionally attempt to change the words of Christ ? Even i that i am not one does not attempt that , i only judge them for what they say.