What was the worst part of the Matrix?

[thestonesfan]

I just watched them over the course of the last week or so. Entertaining.

In my opinion, by far the worst part of the saga, even worse than the substantial plot holes, was the neverending kung-fu. Just when you think "ok, no sane human would add another kung-fu fight," here comes some more kung-fu.

There is so much kung-fu Jackie Chan would get tired of it. Let's look at the varieties of kung-fu we are treated with -

"Indroduction-to-the-Matrix-fu" - What better way to show someone the possibilities of a world where you can do anything you want than with some kung-fu?

"Smith-fu" - How do you deal with hundreds of Agent Smith's? Karate chops and lamposts, of course!

"Test-fu" - When someone wants to see the oracle, you damn well better test their kung-fu abilities.

"Medieval Weapon-fu" - Even if someone can stop bullets in mid-air, you still might be able to beat them, provided you use the oldest weapons available.

"Truck-fu" - Pretty self-explanatory. This type of 'fu is best done when wearing a suit and tie.

"Smith-fu-2", or "Rain-fu" - This one is fun, because you never know which of your blows is going to cause massive, face-distroting, earthquake inducing, shockwaves, or if it will weakly glance off your opponents' forearm.

Anyway, I'm sure I missed some, but that's just too much fu for me.

 

[Hitro]

The third part was the worst.

 

[CurtSibling]

"What was the worst part of the Matrix?"

The producers agreeing to fund it in the first place.

 

[LesCanadiens]

I agree, the fight scenes as a whole (in the second and third movies) completely sucked and reached no conclusion whatsoever, unless you count Neo running away after every single fight as a conclusion.

 

[MarineCorps]

Is the animatrix counted?

 

[stratego]

The Kung-Fu part was the best.

The worst part was when Keanu Reeves try to be like Christ. I think it was the third movie when he laid down with his arms spread.

 

[thestonesfan]

Sure, but I haven't seen that.

(in response to Marinecorps)

 

[RoddyVR]

lol. good thread.

i dont mind the Fu as much as you guys seem to though.

what i realy disliked was the ending (of the whole series). the whole "well, after all that, lets just be friends" ending is WAY too Disney for me.
what the hell. someone should have reformated some big ass computer somewhere. atleast kill the initial AI.
they chickened out of a REAL ending by doing the whole "well, an intelligent program and a human hooked into a machine are fundumentaly the same, so lets be nice to eachother. you can ignore the fact that we inslaved you after you gave us life right?"

and that whole "i loose the big rain fight, so that means i win" thing is just plain wierd.

 

[Aphex_Twin]

A potentially great movie, but died due to generally poor script, overuse of special effects and two sequels.

 

[thestonesfan]

The Kung-Fu part was the best.[/b]

"Part"? If you are talking about the last one, it bordered on cool, with the seismic punches and what not, but by then I was too tired of the pointless fighting. And that would have been the most pointless fight, since Neo apparently planned on getting "infected" the whole time!

The worst part was when Keanu Reeves try to be like Christ. I think it was the third movie when he laid down with his arms spread.

I was totally lost at that point.

 

[betazed]

i dont mind the Fu as much as you guys seem to though.

what i realy disliked was the ending (of the whole series). the whole "well, after all that, lets just be friends" ending is WAY too Disney for me.

That's what I felt too. I think the writers chickened out to show the destruction of man etc. It would have been far more interesting to see an epic battle and have it conclusively decided one way or another.

Oh and I like Kung-fu. I can't get enough of it. I think this Ping guy (the fight sequence director) is the best thing since sliced bread. Have you seen his other great movie? The Iron Monkey?

 

[thestonesfan]

A potentially great movie, but died due to generally poor script, overuse of special effects and two sequels.

Yeah, I liked the first one. I think it was accidentally good, judging from the direction they went.

 

[HamaticBabylon]

The fact that we didn't get a chance to hear the robots side of the story.

Puny humans..

 

[thestonesfan]

lol. good thread.

i dont mind the Fu as much as you guys seem to though.

what i realy disliked was the ending (of the whole series). the whole "well, after all that, lets just be friends" ending is WAY too Disney for me.
what the hell. someone should have reformated some big ass computer somewhere. atleast kill the initial AI.
they chickened out of a REAL ending by doing the whole "well, an intelligent program and a human hooked into a machine are fundumentaly the same, so lets be nice to eachother. you can ignore the fact that we inslaved you after you gave us life right?"

and that whole "i loose the big rain fight, so that means i win" thing is just plain wierd.

The ending was flat out nonsensical. As if we could ever co-exist with each other. Would there be an intelligent human alive that wouldn't plot day and night to take out the machines?

 

[The Last Conformist]

The first was OK, the second was poor, and let's not talk about the third.

 

[stratego]

"Part"? If you are talking about the last one, it bordered on cool, with the seismic punches and what not, but by then I was too tired of the pointless fighting. And that would have been the most pointless fight, since Neo apparently planned on getting "infected" the whole time!

I mean I watched the matrix just for the special effects, not the story line. And most of the special effects are done through the fight scenes. I think that the fight in the park with the Mr. Smiths is the coolest scene ever

 

[RoddyVR]

The fact that we didn't get a chance to hear the robots side of the story.

Puny humans..

that train station scene (though i dont remember if it was in part2 or 3), that was the machine side of the story.

it basicaly boiled down to "we have feelings too". lol.

The ending was flat out nonsensical. As if we could ever co-exist with each other. Would there be an intelligent human alive that wouldn't plot day and night to take out the machines?

ye. i aint even sure i'm inside a big program being used as a battery, and i'm already planning their destruction.
besides, all humans like imposing their own view on other humans so much, that there would always be a holy war against the machines to "free" the rest of humanity and let them live in the hell that is the real world.

 

[Aphex_Twin]

The fact that we didn't get a chance to hear the robots side of the story.

Puny humans..

What if humans had it coming? An interesting aspect

 

[HamaticBabylon]

What if humans had it coming? An interesting aspect

i think it would be quite interesting, but i feel it would become another terminator flim.

 

[Dr Jimbo]

I bailed before part 3, but what really did it for me was the pretentious waffle of the architect's speech. Spend some of that FX money on an effing script editor, bro!