Poll corrected as requested, I hope.
What will be the remaining civs in Brave New World?
- Thread starter AbsintheRed
- Start date
Shall we play? 
1. Portugal
2. Zulu
3. The Sioux
4. Brazil
5. Italy
6. An european darkhorse - like Austria - probably Belgium.
7. An Asian darkhorse - maybe they will go for indonesia, khmer or vietnam, but i think the eastern civilization will be a surprise.
Let the dice roll!
1. Portugal
2. Zulu
3. The Sioux
4. Brazil
5. Italy
6. An european darkhorse - like Austria - probably Belgium.
7. An Asian darkhorse - maybe they will go for indonesia, khmer or vietnam, but i think the eastern civilization will be a surprise.
Let the dice roll!
AbsintheRed
Deity
Btw, would it be better if I extended the Armenia option to Other Middle-eastern civs (Armenia, Akkad, Elam, etc)?
That was my original plan, I only changed it because I thought Armenia might stand a chance, it's well-known and unique enough, while any other option from there is absolutely out of the question
About Hungary: I don't think it's that important either, but just make a quick search for Hungary and Magyars if you don't beleive me
I'm not the only one by far who is rooting for their inclusion
Also, they are doing very well in most of the civ polls
Btw, I thought it's obvious, but maybe it's not
Civs under grouped options are just examples
There is an etc in the end of all lines (apart from the first 5 native american civs)
Those options doesn't just mean the civs listed, all possible civs from the given area/continent...
AbsintheRed
Deity
Thanks!
If it's not a too big request, could you also change the Armenia option to:
A different Middle-Eastern civ: Armenia, Akkad, Elam, Georgia, etc
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
My guesses (though I'm not confident with them):
1. Zululand (no brainer here)
2. Portugal (also no brainer)
3. Another European civ (because Civ is still relatively Eurocentric, so I see it as probable), though I'm not sure whether it'd be Italy, Belgium, or something completely different, so I just picked another European civ
4. Kongo - I'm pretty unsure about this, but given the Scramble for African scenario it's a decent possibility
5. Indonesia - there's nothing really saying it'd be in (Borbodur doesn't really matter much), but it's the best likelihood for an Asian civ given that it'd occupy a relatively empty area
6. A native civ well-known in the USA - no idea why, though I feel like it's possible particularly with the Sioux given that they've been featured in previous Civ games
7. Brazil - I'm really uncertain on this given that there's a precendent for not having "modern" nations (i.e. nations formed after c. 1750 that survive to this day) other than America, but given the tourism and other features, it's a distinct possibility.
Other options I was considering:
- Israel - as the debate on other threads indicated, it does carry a bit of, well, debate, and personally I feel the controversy might steer the devs from it, but it imght not be impossible
- Vietnam - a possible darkhorse candidate that's been mentioned here and there (and not just by me); it's well known and the Trung sisters would be pretty marketable as well
- Another African civ: I believe after the Zulu, the Kongo are the most likely, but it wouldn't be impossible to see other African civs like the Swahili, Hausa, or even Berbers (I would really like the Berbers/Moors) if they are relevant to the Scramble for African scenario.
1. Zululand (no brainer here)
2. Portugal (also no brainer)
3. Another European civ (because Civ is still relatively Eurocentric, so I see it as probable), though I'm not sure whether it'd be Italy, Belgium, or something completely different, so I just picked another European civ
4. Kongo - I'm pretty unsure about this, but given the Scramble for African scenario it's a decent possibility
5. Indonesia - there's nothing really saying it'd be in (Borbodur doesn't really matter much), but it's the best likelihood for an Asian civ given that it'd occupy a relatively empty area
6. A native civ well-known in the USA - no idea why, though I feel like it's possible particularly with the Sioux given that they've been featured in previous Civ games
7. Brazil - I'm really uncertain on this given that there's a precendent for not having "modern" nations (i.e. nations formed after c. 1750 that survive to this day) other than America, but given the tourism and other features, it's a distinct possibility.
Other options I was considering:
- Israel - as the debate on other threads indicated, it does carry a bit of, well, debate, and personally I feel the controversy might steer the devs from it, but it imght not be impossible
- Vietnam - a possible darkhorse candidate that's been mentioned here and there (and not just by me); it's well known and the Trung sisters would be pretty marketable as well
- Another African civ: I believe after the Zulu, the Kongo are the most likely, but it wouldn't be impossible to see other African civs like the Swahili, Hausa, or even Berbers (I would really like the Berbers/Moors) if they are relevant to the Scramble for African scenario.
Last time, someone - I don't recall who, but for some reason I want to attribute it to JFD - created a map, showing the borders of all the civs already included or confirmed. It wasn't 100% accurate, nor was it by any means a sure-fire, but it did serve as an interesting way to look at the "geographic distribution" question, and see regions where there were still large gaps.
JFD
Kathigitarkh
What I sincerely anticipate:
Portugal
Zulu
Indonesia
Kongo
Sioux/Cherokee/Comanche (probably the first, given their inclusion in previous games)
Morocco
Italy/Venice
Portugal
Zulu
Indonesia
Kongo
Sioux/Cherokee/Comanche (probably the first, given their inclusion in previous games)
Morocco
Italy/Venice
You're welcome, edit completed.Thanks!
If it's not a too big request, could you also change the Armenia option to:
A different Middle-Eastern civ: Armenia, Akkad, Elam, Georgia, etc
Better check to ensure I did it correctly.
JFD
Kathigitarkh
While I'd be all for Morocco as a civ, I have to say I'm rather doubtful it'd actually be included.
Firaxis, please prove me wrong
I'm mainly going off what could come out of the Scramble for Africa scenario.
AbsintheRed
Deity
Actually I'm very curious, what would you have done differently?
Yeah, some of the civs are not that likely, I agree, even if they are one of the more worthy options
It can still happen for BNW, but they have much better chances later as DLCs
Sumer, Hittites, Phoenicia, Hungary, Khmer, Mali, Hebrews/Israel, Tibet are among them
Just check my opening post in the DLC thread: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=491049
King William I
King
My bets:
Sumer
Portugal
Italy in some form
Well known American Indian
Zulu
Kongo
Brazil
Sumer
Portugal
Italy in some form
Well known American Indian
Zulu
Kongo
Brazil
Well, the reason I doubt Tibet is that - unfortunately - China bans anything that so much as mentions an independent Tibet. I personally think that, if we'll ever see a civ representing a similar-ish culture from that region, it'd be Nepal, and I think that would have been more likely last time around.
As for Mali, the level of overlap with the Songhai makes me doubt they'll be in. Then again, they added Byzantium last time, so I guess you never know.
Anyways, for the listing, I would've kept all but the absolute most commonly argued - stuff like Portugal and the Zulu - as categories, and then described them by region and what they could bring to the logic of the expansion. IE, very similar to what you did with the "Other European" states, though I would've swung a bit more detail. I'd have then asked people to elaborate, since, hey, they'll do that anyways.
Actually, if we get to the most detailed, I wouldn't have made a poll at all, since everyone's going to have some issue with what's on/not on it, anyways
As for Mali, the level of overlap with the Songhai makes me doubt they'll be in. Then again, they added Byzantium last time, so I guess you never know.
Anyways, for the listing, I would've kept all but the absolute most commonly argued - stuff like Portugal and the Zulu - as categories, and then described them by region and what they could bring to the logic of the expansion. IE, very similar to what you did with the "Other European" states, though I would've swung a bit more detail. I'd have then asked people to elaborate, since, hey, they'll do that anyways.
Actually, if we get to the most detailed, I wouldn't have made a poll at all, since everyone's going to have some issue with what's on/not on it, anyways
AbsintheRed
Deity
You're welcome, edit completed.
Better check to ensure I did it correctly.
Yep, perfect
Thanks again!
Moderator Action: You're welcome.
AbsintheRed
Deity
Maybe there is a bug in the poll counting mechanics of the site?
Uberfrog and oski90 voted for the same 7 options
Incidentally, all those 7 options show up one less votes than they should have
After a quick glance on the results, everything else is fine
Uberfrog and oski90 voted for the same 7 options
Incidentally, all those 7 options show up one less votes than they should have
After a quick glance on the results, everything else is fine
Guandao
Rajah of Minyue, Hlai and Langkasuka
though Italy seems likely, I didn't vote for it. Only voted for one African civ, Zulu, cause I'm pessimistic about that. I feel like only one African civ, one Asian civ, and one Native American civ will be chosen. The rest shall be from Europe or Western nations like Canada, Australia, and Brazil.
Snoopaloop
King
- Joined
- Jun 23, 2007
- Messages
- 607
Voted for Zulu, Portugal, and a "well known native civ". The first two are givens, and I feel pretty sure about the second Native American civ.
Also picked Phoenicia, as they're my dark horse for the expansion. If there is a time for them to make the series, its an expansion focused on trade. I think by summer, I'll be monopolizing all the dye luxury resources and shipping them around the seas.
I have no clue at all what other civs are going to be included. Though I am confident Firaxis will do a great job making their game-play unique and fun.
Also picked Phoenicia, as they're my dark horse for the expansion. If there is a time for them to make the series, its an expansion focused on trade. I think by summer, I'll be monopolizing all the dye luxury resources and shipping them around the seas.
I have no clue at all what other civs are going to be included. Though I am confident Firaxis will do a great job making their game-play unique and fun.
Virtually everyone assumes Portugal and Zulu.
IIRC, Khmer was a civ in Civ 4 or its expansions, as was Sumer.
And many, myself included, believe Brazil may get in since it's become bigger on the world stage since the Civ series began.
So those are the ones I picked.
My biggest surprise is that no one thinks the Mali will make it in. I don't know enough to have voted for them myself, but, as of this post, the Mali, who were in Civ 4, have 0 votes for being present this time around. That's a bit of a surprise, though I imagine many probably see it as we already have the Songhai. Mansa Musa, looks like you're getting no love in CiV...
IIRC, Khmer was a civ in Civ 4 or its expansions, as was Sumer.
And many, myself included, believe Brazil may get in since it's become bigger on the world stage since the Civ series began.
So those are the ones I picked.
My biggest surprise is that no one thinks the Mali will make it in. I don't know enough to have voted for them myself, but, as of this post, the Mali, who were in Civ 4, have 0 votes for being present this time around. That's a bit of a surprise, though I imagine many probably see it as we already have the Songhai. Mansa Musa, looks like you're getting no love in CiV...
Don't forget they pretty much share a city list
I only vote for Khmer because play as a Khmer is very good in growth. It produce faster growth rate with less unhappiness. Why many people forget Khmer as used to included in CIV4 beyond the sword? It is a country which has over 800 ancient temples! including Angkorwat as u see in Civi5!
Similar threads
