What's the most powerful force in the universe?

What's the most powerful force in the universe?


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Yeah, and the point is it has that effect. Such a simplistic approach to a complex universe you have. You can deny it all day long, but gravity dominates our existence in a way that the strong force doesn't even remotely do. At this level, the strong/color force is some minuscule little bond, a constant but ineffectual, unnoticeable tug that just keeps things together at the smallest level. A necessary force, yes, but ultimately it's nothing more than that - the odd line of code that makes sure the graphical representation of text is bound to its reference right: something 99.999% of people never notice, that you proabably didn't notice until now, so impressive is it.

Gravity, on the other hand, determines where we are, the shape of our entire world, solar system, galaxy, and universe. It is weak singularly, but its strength comes from sheer numbers, and with those numbers it can completely crush the strong force, bend it to its will. Bend everything to its will, even the laws of physics. Does your strong force do that? Nope, it just keeps subatomic particles together. Yawn. Oh, it's a zero overall, great, just goes to show how powerful a zero can be. Makes you wonder if all those other "zeroes" are actually extremely important in life, too...

You attribute too much to gravitational force my friend, your understanding is lacking, without the strong force Gravity would have very few situations where it could actually be noticed, because there wouldn't be any clump of matter sufficiently large for it to have a noticble effect. The Strong force is part of the reason why Gravity gets the opportunity to act.

In another vein, the weak force, through a small change; changing the flavour of quarks, ensures that the suns fusion process can continue as normal.

So as unimpressed as you are by small changes, I would take my time to consider them, and as you say most people won't notice the effects, because they do not need to, because its not a simple line of code, called upon in special circumstances, its one of the 4 Fundemental Forces, and it underlines everything we do. Yes Gravity is one of these forces, its also the weakest. Just because the strong force is a small change, does not simply mean you can ignore it or laugh it off, not if your trying to seek the truth of the matter. Now, in the context of the question, the Strong force IS the most powerfull Force, and Gravity is the weakest.

Now if you wanted to argue about whats the most important Force your arguments might have more value. As is, mentioning Black holes, planets or Galaxies is meaningless, hence me telling you to educate yourself and read whats been written here and in other places.

For example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong_force said:
The word strong is used since the strong interaction is the most powerful of the four fundamental forces; its typical field strength is 100 times the strength of the electromagnetic force, some 10^13 times as great as that of the weak force, and about 10^38 times that of gravitation.
 
You attribute too much to gravitational force my friend, your understanding is lacking, without the strong force Gravity would have very few situations where it could actually be noticed,
Sounds pretty important, huh? Letting gravity supposedly do all the work that it does, letting it be so powerful. How nice of it.
In another vein, the weak force, through a small change; changing the flavour of quarks, ensures that the suns fusion process can continue as normal.
Also pretty important.
So as unimpressed as you are by small changes, I would take my time to consider them, and as you say most people won't notice the effects, because they do not need to, because its not a simple line of code, called upon in special circumstances, its one of the 4 Fundemental Forces, and it underlines everything we do.
Pretty important stuff there...
Just because the strong force is a small change, does not simply mean you can ignore it or laugh it off, not if your trying to seek the truth of the matter.
Small but important, yeah?


Now if you wanted to argue about whats the most important Force your arguments might have more value.

Now, in the context of the question, the Strong force IS the most powerfull Force, and Gravity is the weakest.
Which force is God again? It was a completely open-ended question with no real context given.

The term "powerful" is completely subjective and its significance is dependent on a contextual evaluative framework. It is relative, and for whatever silly reason you have decided to relate it to all other forces at some minuscule level that is barely observable. What purpose does that serve, what good is your approach? Who cares? People learn about this stuff in HS. 98% forget about the strong force within a year probably. But we all know what gravity is. No one cares about how hadrons stick together. But black holes and the Earth... it's not because gravity is more powerful at the subatomic level, it's because it's more powerful at the human level, and there's no justifiable reason to go creating subjective frameworks at that tiny level when dealing with such a broad and general question. What point does such a framework serve exactly? Some unimportant physics trivia contest?

So, again, why is this force so powerful? What does it do that gives it its power, so Godlike? That strong force, Zeus' bolts, beware! it might bind your protons together! :lol:
For example:
Well, I guess my "million million" figure was a bit off... :mischief:



all scientific BS aside, the most powerful force may arise from the emotions that come from the inability to perceive sarcasm on a forum due to stuckuppediness :lol:
Shush, you. The strong force is obviously better than stuckuppedness by a factor of 3.45x10^4845 at the sub-micro-quantum-nanoscopic level that is so small we haven't quite detected it yet.

Anyway, I change my vote to God. By definition, God wins hands down.
 
Once we know what controls the Cosmos, we can eventually control that force.
So for example, if your mind and senses are the controlling forces, you can stop all bad things from happening. They happen simply because your senses is creating those illusions for your mind.

That above is what I believe is the universe-controlling force. In fact, the universe is only what you see, hear, feel, smell etc. A bit like 'The Truman Show', but in a larger scale.

When I say you, I don't mean you, Perfection. I mean you in general. When mankind will find the world circulates around me, your mind and senses will see that the surroundings will say that the world circulates around you.

If you didn't understood what I meant, let me describe a bit easier:
When I say green and show the colour, you will hear, see and think of, blue.

You are the universe.
 
Once we know what controls the Cosmos, we can eventually control that force.
So for example, if your mind and senses are the controlling forces, you can stop all bad things from happening. They happen simply because your senses is creating those illusions for your mind.

That above is what I believe is the universe-controlling force. In fact, the universe is only what you see, hear, feel, smell etc. A bit like 'The Truman Show', but in a larger scale.

When I say you, I don't mean you, Perfection. I mean you in general. When mankind will find the world circulates around me, your mind and senses will see that the surroundings will say that the world circulates around you.

If you didn't understood what I meant, let me describe a bit easier:
When I say green and show the colour, you will hear, see and think of, blue.

You are the universe.
I disagree. It's entirely obvious IMO that there is an objective reality independant of our minds. We do not craft the laws of the universe, we uncover them. And uncovering them doesn't always lead to control.
 
again, i was being facetious.

i had a physics professor that'd say this all the time.

Say what? That you were being facetious? That he was being facetious? That he was going to push you out of an aeroplane?
 
A star going supernova seems pretty damn strong. So I guess that counts as nuclear force then. In which case I misvoted.
 
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