What's Your Loyalty Quotient?

[CavLancer]

How far will you go in service to another? Some know no bounds in being faithful, others will swear up and down then do what whim strikes them. Which are you? Are you somewhere in between?

Lets say we're talking family. Maybe next time I'll go with nation.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

It really depends on the circumstances. Also there are relatives and "relatives". I am not from the enviroment where family is that important but since it is relative we talk about there may be chance that I will be in position to understand the situation from more intimate angle, right? Also man made laws are no dogmas for me. So who knows?

 

[CavLancer]

"Close"

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

"Close"

I dont think we are reatives...

 

[warpus]

A terrible crime like murder? Depends. I can't see anyone in my family committing cold blooded murder unless it was done in self defense (in which case is it murder?), or say somebody picked up my mom and took her home and my dad snapped and grabbed an axe.

Circumstances matter, but if it was really terrible and without good explanation I would worry for the other members of the family and would have no choice but to turn the person in.

I'm loyal to my family but I have standards.

 

[CavLancer]

@ Mech...I think you are outside the scope of this poll, but I intend to do more.

 

[CavLancer]

A terrible crime like murder? Depends. I can't see anyone in my family committing cold blooded murder unless it was done in self defense (in which case is it murder?), or say somebody picked up my mom and took her home and my dad snapped and grabbed an axe.

Circumstances matter, but if it was really terrible and without good explanation I would worry for the other members of the family and would have no choice but to turn the person in.

I'm loyal to my family but I have standards.

That's part of it, you come up with the crime. A person who proposes a lesser crime wants to stick with family but doesn't want to be too challenged, or shocked at what they might do. A person who comes up with something really bad may use that to show how far their loyalties go. I guess a shrink could make lots of stuff out of this. My intent is entertainment, self discovery and discussion.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

I would probably try to convince them to turn themselves in, but I don't think I'd call the authorities myself. I would not help with the coverup, except maybe through advise I have the feeling the dedd was in some way justifies.
I would also gradually break my ties with them.

 

[warpus]

That's part of it, you come up with the crime. A person who proposes a lesser crime wants to stick with family but doesn't want to be too challenged, or shocked at what they might do. A person who comes up with something really bad may use that to show how far their loyalties go. I guess a shrink could make lots of stuff out of this. My intent is entertainment, self discovery and discussion.

It's a bit depressing imagining those who you love committing heinous crimes, though. But if someone else suggests a scenario and asks me a question about it, it's easier to think about.

 

[The_J]

I'm sure there'd be a good reason for that crime (even if someone was cut in pieces with a chainsaw, or similar), so I'd help (also applies for close friends).

 

[Borachio]

I'd persuade them to turn themselves in. Actually, I wouldn't need to. I can't think of a single relative who wouldn't have already turned themselves in.

If they've had a good reason to do what they've done, they'll not be bothered about the legal consequences in the slightest. So they've no reason not to turn themselves in. Especially as it turns away suspicion from anyone else.

If they've had some kind of mental breakdown, then they need professional help beyond anything I could give them.

If they've not had a mental breakdown, and they've no justification for what they've done, they still need to turn themselves in.

If they still refused to go, would I report them myself? I don't think I would, unless I thought that was the only way to stop them repeating the crime.

 

[Perfection]

That's when we know they're really part of the family.

Snitches will get what they deserve.

 

[Tahuti]

Everyone is some ways, his or her family, and I'd find it personally very low to abandon my family, no matter the circumstances, unless it involves breaking laws I approve of in principle.

 

[Rashiminos]

Other.

It really depends on the circumstances.

I'd agree with this sentiment. The context is rather sensitive.

That's part of it, you come up with the crime. A person who proposes a lesser crime wants to stick with family but doesn't want to be too challenged, or shocked at what they might do. A person who comes up with something really bad may use that to show how far their loyalties go. I guess a shrink could make lots of stuff out of this. My intent is entertainment, self discovery and discussion.

Let's shoot for the moon here then.

The crime is enslavement of humanity.

 

[Borachio]

Has this crime been successful? If yes, then I'm hardly going to do anything to someone's who's enslaved humanity. And my loyalty wouldn't be an issue.

 

[Darkflight]

I don't exactly know what the definition of a "terribl crime" is, but if you use what I would consider a reasonable definition I would definatly call the police on them. Beeing family doesn't excuse criminal behaviour.

 

[Evie]

Are you really helping someone, when you allow them to hide their crimes, and to run from their past? When you empower them to do things they shouldn't?

 

[Gucumatz]

I would probably lean towards the first category in except for the most extreme of theoretical circumstances. But Context is extremely important.

 

[CavLancer]

Its a tough question about what is the terrible crime. Hadn't given it much thought besides a fuzzy notion of something really bad. Putting it into words like "murder" or "enslavement" really makes me wonder how I'd react. Lets say that Austrian guy who enslaved his own daughter in his basement, iirc raped her... If that guy was a family member I'd turn him in and he would be dead to me. Murder has self defense, rage, stuff like 'I was drunk'. Stuff that I would normally pass off might become more important if spoken by family. Then there's who was murdered. Was it someone that might be seen as having it coming or someone innocent? Also, who committed the murder. So we have who was killed, why, and whodunit, and my decision on what to do would likely be based on those things.

 

[really]

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