Which Civ would you prefere instead of HRE?

[TheLastOne36]

Hah it seems poland's catching up to isreal.

 

[injeKT]

I say Poland...ONLY IF they have glass bottom boats in their naval units.

*rimshot*

 

[Spartan117]

No, I say that Israel is winning.

I am so sick of all these threads being taken over by people complaining about Poland not being in and then bashing any civ chosen over them.

At first I really didn't care if Poland got in or not but now because of all the people whining about them I am just turned off the idea of them being in at all.

Sadly, that is the same feeling i am getting.

I mcuh rather perfer new ideas to the game get added rather then getting all new civs. New civs are a plus, but I want to play BTS for the things added to the game.

 

[TheLastOne36]

Well if Poland does make it then your not gonna hear people whining

I myself am tired of all the Polish threads. There perfectly fine but the racist and ignorant people that post in them is what ruins it.

 

[injeKT]

Relax LastOne. PC zealots like you give me a headache.

 

[sourboy]

POLAND!!

Israel would be a distant 2nd, anyone else in a far distant 3rd, so long as they don't repeat a current Civ like HRE does.

 

[gostanford22]

Israel, no contest. That's assuming Ethiopia and a SE Asian civ will be in (we already know the latter will).

i agree, or Austria in a very strong second

 

[sourboy]

Well if Poland does make it then your not gonna hear people whining

Hmm, you bring up an interesting point. People are complaining that HRE is too similar to Rome and that Poland is a logical favorite for a deserving addition instead of HRE. The whining is against HRE, the solution is Poland.

What if Poland was in it? No one would be whining about HRE, and few would probably whine about Poland (no more than people whine about their preferred Civ being omitted now).

In other words, pro-Poland members are coming off as being whiney about a lack of Poland, when the average player probably would shrug it off should they be included, all because of the cause: a second Roman Empire - which is clearly ridiculous.

 

[gostanford22]

Hmm, you bring up an interesting point. People are complaining that HRE is too similar to Rome and that Poland is a logical favorite for a deserving addition instead of HRE. The whining is against HRE, the solution is Poland.

What if Poland was in it? No one would be whining about HRE, and few would probably whine about Poland (no more than people whine about their preferred Civ being omitted now).

In other words, pro-Poland members are coming off as being whiney about a lack of Poland, when the average player probably would shrug it off should they be included, all because of the cause: a second Roman Empire - which is clearly ridiculous.

if u r trying to replay the HRE with a European civ, Austria would come before the bumbling poland anyday.

 

[j-d-s]

if u r trying to replay the HRE with a European civ, Austria would come before the bumbling poland anyday.

And what's about Kingdom Poland-Lithuania in 1500?

 

[Comrade Aart]

And what's about Kingdom Poland-Lithuania in 1500?

You answer yourself. It was not Poland alone.

 

[j-d-s]

It was Poland alone.

The Kingdom of Poland of the Jagiellons was the Polish state in the years between the death of Casimir III in 1370 and the Union of Lublin in 1569. Between 1370 and 1385, the Kingdom was ruled by the following Angevin kings:

* Louis I of Hungary
* Jadwiga of Poland

After the Union of Krewo, the following Jagiellons ruled:

* Wladislaus II Jagiełło
* Wladislaus III of Varna
* Casimir IV the Jagiellonian
* John I Olbracht
* Alexander the Jagiellonian
* Sigismund I the Old
* Sigismund II Augustus

 

[Comrade Aart]

In 1569 Poland became part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (which I thought you were referring to) and in that period Poland wasn't on its own. I've never seen a resource that Poland was officially more dominant.

And maybe I would have liked to see Poland in, but as Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth not only "Poland". Then it would certainly have been a nice addition. But we have to accept the choices that are made.

 

[sourboy]

if u r trying to replay the HRE with a European civ, Austria would come before the bumbling poland anyday.

Point is, Poland, Austria, Israel, Easter Island for all I care... would be better than a 2nd version of any current Civ.

 

[TheLastOne36]

i wish they had 4 german leaders,

Bismark, Frederick, Charlemagne, and Maria Theresa to represent all of germany instead of putting in a second german empire.

 

[Öjevind Lång]

Hmm, you bring up an interesting point. People are complaining that HRE is too similar to Rome and that Poland is a logical favorite for a deserving addition instead of HRE. The whining is against HRE, the solution is Poland.

If Poland had been included in Vanilla Civ IV , I would have been surprised but not cared much one way or the other. But this incessant barrage of demands that Poland be included has completely turned me against the idea. I might even abstain from buying a version of Civ that included Poland because I don't want this kind of nagging to be successful. Not that I think I'll ever have to make that decision.

 

[gostanford22]

i wish they had 4 german leaders,

Bismark, Frederick, Charlemagne, and Maria Theresa to represent all of germany instead of putting in a second german empire.

Maria Theresa was Austian

 

[Madoo]

HRE!!!!!!!!!!! Argh!!!!!!! why couldnt they have added the polish?!!!

No but seriosly you guys i was wondering on (inevitably its gona be made) Earth 34 maps where are they going to place the HRE?...... will it be in betweem Rome and Germany, Germany and Russia or Germany and France. Any way i just dont see how it can be done with the netherlands as well, europe will literaly be chocked to death even on Genghis-Khias 24 Huge Earth map.

Moderator Action: Thread merged with an existing HRE thread. -- TF

 

[dragodon64]

yea and the inca have all of South America to themselves.

 

[Vasili Zaitsev]

The leaders are:
HRE with 76
Israel with 40
Poland with 34
Austria with 31
It looks as if Israel has pulled out of reach and is a lock for 2nd and Austria will pass up Poland in the next few days.