While We Wait: Part 2

[Symphony D.]

Just look at the Napoleonic Wars. If you form enough coalitions, you'll get 'em eventually.

Losing tens to hundreds of thousands of men and suffering great economic ruin in the process? Brilliant plan!

The overarching parallels with ITNES, even if only totally superficial, are amusing.

 

[Swissempire]

As a neutral party to the war, I think it'll be a stalemate...

or be like the BirdNES 100 Years War where no one givs up

 

[das]

Well, Birdjaguar's rules aren't particularily encouraging of very drawn-out wars, at least in Europe (which is definitely a good thing). So I suspect it will end as a limited victory of the coalition, just because.

 

[Disenfrancised]

France can be left to rage in her little corner as long as it's properly contained.

Its just in the 1300-1800 period France is the most populous nation in europe (including Russia), locking France in a cage just concentrates all her manpower in a few places. Plus since you have to leave some guys at home to mind the fort, a European coalition v. France will have 2-1.5:1 numbers advantage at the absolute most . And this is from a guy who despises France and everything they stand for .

In DisNESII silver did his 'thing' in Aragon (though even that was a very precise campaign and not the usual rampage of destruction), but was relatively leniant in Flanders. And yes he was very lucky (or precisent) as he put major defenses and army in front of each years different vector of attack.

 

[North King]

Its just in the 1300-1800 period France is the most populous nation in europe (including Russia),

I think I recall reading somewhere (might be outdated), that if the Holy Roman Empire were unified, it would have slightly more than France (in 1700, at least).

 

[Disenfrancised]

I think I recall reading somewhere (might be outdated), that if the Holy Roman Empire were unified, it would have slightly more than France (in 1700, at least).

If by the HRE you mean the german speaking bits my readings indicate a amalgamated OTL population of 0.8-0.9 Frances. However the economic advanatages of a unified HRE (as the PoD would have to be earlier after all) would probably mean they'd match or exceed France by a considerable margin in an ATL .

 

[jeps]

I love the fact that muslims arent being taken care of, but only the errant christians. Going against god>going against pope, it would seem.

 

[alex994]

I see you believe that the Ethiopian conquest of Egypt was purely for the sakes of national interest I see it as a vast Christian conspiracy to destroy the Islamic World. Mali doesn't count, they're the traitors to the Islamic World since they're all obsessed with everything Portuguese

 

[jeps]

Me? Nunca!

We are so isolated from Islam that it doesnt matter. and it was only ONCE where I read a very VERY VERY long poem in portuguese!

We are traders. Portugal gave us an opportunity. We owe them, or else we could never have....

 

[alex994]

I'm sure a few centuries down the line, your royal family will be cursed among all the Followers of the Islamic Faith for selling out to the Christians

 

[jeps]

I dont think the royal family will be. (unless a coup or something ever means that the king is a christian) we converted many people TO islam, not away. (the tribals are slowly becoming christian, but tribalism is WORSE than christianity. polytheism and such.)

 

[alex994]

Some Muslims right now see the Saudis as traitors for "working" with the US even when their nation is a theocratic-monarchy I'm afraid you can't deny it, the Muslims of the future will not look kindly upon Mali.

 

[jeps]

You are assuming quite a few things there, and well, some may prove false. anyways, the muslims in the future dont have a time machine, so that really doesnt affect me.

and how can you say that someone who has memorized the entire Qu'ran is a traitor to islam?

 

[alex994]

I can say that George W. Bush is an evil alien from outer space or is dominated by a vast secret underground organization and some people would actually believe me

People will believe ANYTHING j_eps, you never know...

(Everything above is said in a joking/sarcastic/humorous tone)

 

[jeps]

i got that part. sarcasm is a lot harder to catch on forums, but i use a code. if you look carefully, there is a wrinkle over the 'i' of all posts of mine that are sarcastic.*

By vast secret underground organization, you havent stayed up late listening to Coast to Coast AM have you? from random bits of the show I've heard, the worlds leaders are controlled by the Illuminati. However, another episode said he was controlled by the freemasons. So the freemasons and illuminati are both in a gigantic war in Iraq to see who gets to control Bush! and people believe those things...

If you really want to see Mali be a traitor to Islam...(removed)...

 

[Perfectionist]

I see you believe that the Ethiopian conquest of Egypt was purely for the sakes of national interest I see it as a vast Christian conspiracy to destroy the Islamic World.

Oh, you're going to love this update

I'm sure a few centuries down the line, your royal family will be cursed among all the Followers of the Islamic Faith for selling out to the Christians

Assuming that a few centuries down the line there will be an Islamic faith

 

[bombshoo]

I love coast to coast.


I have a feeling Ethiopia is going to try something against me...Maybe attack Mecca and the Holy Land...I've had the feeling for a while now though....Atleast I'd have religion on my side in war....

 

[Perfectionist]

Why on earth would you expect me to attack you?

 

[alex994]

I'm sure no matter what you do I can still fit it into the "Islamic World." I can even go so far to say that the Khmer Empire is part of the Islamic Empire if I must

 

[Erik Mesoy]

/me waits patiently for NiNes, expecting PMs to arrive soon. Soonish. Today. In some timezone.