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It's dead, really. I love M:tG, but the mechanics were impossible to do (instants) and story-NES was difficult for many other reasons. It was too big for a casual NESer like me to host. :)

AND WHY AREN'T YOU ASKING FOR yangotp INSTEAD YOU HERETIC?
which will be revived at the end of July btw.
 
So I've poked around a bit lately, and I came across a few things that were obviously said in bad taste. However, being the oh-so-superior person some people seem to believe I imagine I am, I decided not to retort to these failing comments. I am gracious, and as such I would let them go. However, after a brief departure into the Ultimate Map Thread, I've come across a gem that I just can't pardon, and one that I believe deserves a response. Therefore:

Posted by Flyinchicken
In the spirit of ~Darkening~: u suck

I am deeply insulted.
How dare you? The absolute horror.
My spirit has nothing, and shall forever have nothing to do with such a marked travesty.
Take your 'u' and immerse yourself in black.
And avoid such atrocities with my name.
:p.​
 
Really? I didn't really mean to blow anyone's mind. I'm sorry. I just thought, maybe, that people would be aware enough to know my habit of attempting to utilize somewhat proper grammar after three years of me screaming and frothing. And I thought poking fun of the issue wouldn't require a degree or something. Guess I should spoiler bad humor from now on; perhaps I should issue a warning?

:p.
 
lol i getz eet
 
I am deeply insulted.
How dare you? The absolute horror.
My spirit has nothing, and shall forever have nothing to do with such a marked travesty.
Take your 'u' and immerse yourself in black.
And avoid such atrocities with my name.
:p.​
In the spirit of you: u suck :mad:

:)
 
attention whoring...yawn
 
Cast down your vile slander and return to the spammy depths that ye came from, Destroyer!
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Well, anyway, everyone using the "classic" map should switch to the Robinson map I made but can't upload now the moment it's out, since the "classic" map is really just a vile, mocking distortion of the already vile and mocking distortion that is the Robinson projection.
 
No it's not (I haven't shown any Robinson maps in #nes lately)? Something like this is what I'm talking about, only adjusted by 11-12 degrees... in some direction. It'll also have nice (modern) elevation data, though it will lack rivers...

Anyone here know where Symphony D. got the rivers for his map?

EDIT: JOY OF JOYS I am using the search function and it is turning up gold mines.
 
Spoiler :
The Dordogne is included because I turned the wrong way out of the Gironde and didn't notice until I'd finished.

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What ho, Symphony. Had a touch of insomnia and thought I'd have a go at doing one of these rivers. Hope it's acceptable.

Spoiler Loire coordinates :
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this is part 1
 
and this is part 2
Spoiler :

Have a few more.

Spoiler Po Coordinates :
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Spoiler Rhone-Saone Coordinates :
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Spoiler Seine Coordinates :

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Spoiler Oder Coordinates :
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Spoiler Dvina Coordinates :
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Spoiler Volkhov Coordinates :
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You want the Thames? You can't handle the Thames!
Spoiler Thames Coordinates :
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The only possible addition that really comes to my mind is the Garonne, though the veteran mapmakers know better than I.

I guess, though with the ability to drop cities down on GPS coordinates to custom order, I don't really think it'd be necessary for period maps in terms of border creation or city placement.

Also just to inform you, das, you are now on the shortlist, as The Strategos had guessed, of gathering data or finding people to do it for you, if you actually want to see those changes come about. :p

If people are curious, this is what North King did for the Elbe:

Spoiler :
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The second and third tiers are much more representative than the first of what's actually required. For a 1091km river, 124 lines (could probably be reduced to 110 - 115) in a program like Google Earth is not so bad. Less than two hours of time. It's no worse than writing orders or what have you, just more tedious. Man up.
0) Are these all the rivers in the winky-trippy maps?

1) I don't want to rehash of the old arguments. That said: The rivers produced by long GPS-uploading treks and surveys by geographers, topographers, cartographers, and whatever other -phers we have out there aided by machines > stupid.

2) These phers-and-machine maps are MANLIER than stupid. Argumentum ad manliness trumps whatever other order of stupid is out there.

3) MOAR RIVERS liek the ones from the "classic" map that weren't added to get that old timey feel without the old timey stupid. Laborers will get cake.

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BandanaLee, if you were referring to the 162 map it's already released, but then I'm gonna remake it into something smaller, with more rivers, and better border-thing (as the method I used to make this one was very crude; now I know how to do it the right way).
 
I'm wondering if I should try and get a name change.
 
Just ask for it to be capitalised.
 
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