Elta
我不会把这种
*Italian accent* beep beep I do not stop in my sports car beep beep get out of my way beep beep I do notstop in my sports car beep beep
White knuckle driving
- Thread starter Raisin Bran
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7ronin
海軍少佐
I've been driving a long time. I drive defensively and I've only had one accident - somebody wasn't paying attention and rear ended me. I have also had the advantage of several professional law enforcement courses on driving.
skadistic
Caomhanach
7ronin said:
The cop driving classes are great I highly recomend them to everyone. Any thing that teaches you how to control your car, what to expect and how to correct when things go wrong is a good thing to thing to take.
BCLG100 said:ah yes the fun of getting into one of the car with your friends, i often wonder whether ill ever get out again. Though i do have one mate who drives at 2mph below the speed limit at all times
Yeah, I have a freind who does the same. Problem is she has also been known to overtake on blind bends... The nearest I've come to death is when a freind tried to wheelspin onto a roundabout, but the car caught something and donutted in a hedge. Needless to say he's been struck of my "safe enough to drive with" list.
Rambuchan
The Funky President
About blocking up the passing lane on the motorway / highway etc:
The thing that really bugs me about people who block up the passing lanes is the fact that they waste road capacity. Nevermind the fact that they are being inconsiderate of and or spiteful towards other road users, whom they should be able to see in their rear view mirror.
Roads are designed and built to transport 'x' amount of cars in 'y' amount of time. The success of a road depends upon the lanes being used by drivers at the designed speeds. If you drive at a slower speed than the lane was designed for, or prevent others from passing in the passing lane, you are making that road less efficient and lower the value of that x amount of people going from A > B in the given time.
So just move over and quit playing misinformed, self appointed, civil highway patrol. Your national economy demands it!
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Now for the confession:
My driving habit is one thing that totally contradicts everything I believe in and usually subscribe to. I hope I will grow out of it someday, but right now, I'm one impatient son of a gun on the roads who burns rubber like a demon.
I drive fast, stupidly fast, and I make no bones about it. On a motorway in England, I'm the dude in the fast lane leaving everyone for dust at about 100-120 miles per hour.
I have tried hard to make journeys on motorways at the speed limit, but within 10 minutes, I'll be silently cursing the wanker in front, looking at the clock going by and I'll leaving him behind. It's just far less stressful driving faster than everyone else. You don't have to put up with their manoeuvering and uncertainty, you just leave 'em all behind. And you don't need to keep worrying about that guy on your bumper, because no one's going anywhere near as fast.
But I do all this politely and I keep a good distance between me and the car in front (more than the recommended). Unless presented with an absolute goon that is. If said goon is blocking up the lane, I flash them rather than tail gate them. Once. If that doesn't work, they get a repeated flash. And if that doesn't work, then I tail gate them and keep flashing until they get the hell out of the way and quit wasting road capacity (and my time). This all only happens if there is actually space for them to move into the appropriate lane for their speed.
While I do all this, I am still very watchful for hazards and have long ago adopted the habit of "driving several cars in front of myself". ie. I have an eye on what that column of traffic far in front of me will encounter, long before I will get there myself. Aside from being more prepared and aware, it also means you need to brake and accelerate less, which is good for your car's wear-and-tear and it means your actions are less erratic for other drivers.
In towns and cities, I don't go stupidly fast. Perhaps 10 mph over the limit tops, depending on whether it's built up and there are people / other cars around. Again, I'm watching many meters in front of where I am, as well as the space directly in front of me.
Been driving for 12 years now. Never had one accident. *touches wood*
The thing that really bugs me about people who block up the passing lanes is the fact that they waste road capacity. Nevermind the fact that they are being inconsiderate of and or spiteful towards other road users, whom they should be able to see in their rear view mirror.
Roads are designed and built to transport 'x' amount of cars in 'y' amount of time. The success of a road depends upon the lanes being used by drivers at the designed speeds. If you drive at a slower speed than the lane was designed for, or prevent others from passing in the passing lane, you are making that road less efficient and lower the value of that x amount of people going from A > B in the given time.
So just move over and quit playing misinformed, self appointed, civil highway patrol. Your national economy demands it!
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Now for the confession:
My driving habit is one thing that totally contradicts everything I believe in and usually subscribe to. I hope I will grow out of it someday, but right now, I'm one impatient son of a gun on the roads who burns rubber like a demon.
I drive fast, stupidly fast, and I make no bones about it. On a motorway in England, I'm the dude in the fast lane leaving everyone for dust at about 100-120 miles per hour.
I have tried hard to make journeys on motorways at the speed limit, but within 10 minutes, I'll be silently cursing the wanker in front, looking at the clock going by and I'll leaving him behind. It's just far less stressful driving faster than everyone else. You don't have to put up with their manoeuvering and uncertainty, you just leave 'em all behind. And you don't need to keep worrying about that guy on your bumper, because no one's going anywhere near as fast.
But I do all this politely and I keep a good distance between me and the car in front (more than the recommended). Unless presented with an absolute goon that is. If said goon is blocking up the lane, I flash them rather than tail gate them. Once. If that doesn't work, they get a repeated flash. And if that doesn't work, then I tail gate them and keep flashing until they get the hell out of the way and quit wasting road capacity (and my time). This all only happens if there is actually space for them to move into the appropriate lane for their speed.
While I do all this, I am still very watchful for hazards and have long ago adopted the habit of "driving several cars in front of myself". ie. I have an eye on what that column of traffic far in front of me will encounter, long before I will get there myself. Aside from being more prepared and aware, it also means you need to brake and accelerate less, which is good for your car's wear-and-tear and it means your actions are less erratic for other drivers.
In towns and cities, I don't go stupidly fast. Perhaps 10 mph over the limit tops, depending on whether it's built up and there are people / other cars around. Again, I'm watching many meters in front of where I am, as well as the space directly in front of me.
Been driving for 12 years now. Never had one accident. *touches wood*
Check your local/state laws for "slower traffic keep right". Ponder it. Internalize it. But while you're doing so, stop trawling for tailgaters in the left lane. I will pass you on the right, and possibly even cut you off as I get back into the left lane in front of you, but only after having sat behind you while you missed one or two opportunities to drift right, and I might have even flashed my lights at you.
Anyway, about 15 years of driving, no accidents yet, and I tend to hang around 10mph over the limit on highways. Several speeding tickets, though. I'm a very courteous and correct driver to everyone except leftlanelollygaggers and tailgaters.
I'm looking for a few bumperstickers:
(in relatively small print) If you can read this, you're committing vehicular sodomy.
I brake for tailgaters
Hang up and drive!
Anyway, about 15 years of driving, no accidents yet, and I tend to hang around 10mph over the limit on highways. Several speeding tickets, though. I'm a very courteous and correct driver to everyone except leftlanelollygaggers and tailgaters.
I'm looking for a few bumperstickers:
(in relatively small print) If you can read this, you're committing vehicular sodomy.
I brake for tailgaters
Hang up and drive!
Kozmos
Jew Detective
My father often likes to drive with his knees.
Raisin Bran
Cereal Killer
Cleric said:
I do that too .... but only in slow traffic or when I light up a cigarette.
Rambuchan
The Funky President
As a guy who makes his own cigarettes (can't stand straights!) I mastered the art of steering with knees to free the hands up quite a while ago. Don't worry, the speed comes down for this.Raisin Bran said:
Simon Darkshade
Mysterious City of Gold
I drive a fair bit in the country, where sealed roads are the exception, and where the local wildlife likes to come out in the morning, and in the twilight. Even the bitumen is one lane either way.
I guess I am alright; if one doesn't hit 100mph/160kph+ out here, it can be a long drive. Sometimes a bit slower, when we know the copper is about, but there is only one in a 150 mile radius, and usually busy.
Dodging roos can be fun, when ye are not tired from driving 8 hours already, and it always pays to be careful with corners as there is not infrequently a farmer driving his header on the road.
I guess I am alright; if one doesn't hit 100mph/160kph+ out here, it can be a long drive. Sometimes a bit slower, when we know the copper is about, but there is only one in a 150 mile radius, and usually busy.
Dodging roos can be fun, when ye are not tired from driving 8 hours already, and it always pays to be careful with corners as there is not infrequently a farmer driving his header on the road.
Mr. Blonde
Dr. techn.
Rambuchan said:
This paragraph is factually false. You have to keep more distance in m if you drive faster, my car club recommends 1.5 seconds as minimum distance which means that cars passing per second is constant (at very low speeds the car length gets more relevant and then this is no longer true, but for flowing traffic on a motorway it is). Traffic jams and deaths from accidents caused by speeding, however are a real drain on the economy.
To driving habits: I consider myself a safe driver, always trying to keep distance and to go with the flow. Here the law is that on a motorway you are required to drive on the right lane unless you are overtaking.
My latest experience: Slovenian drivers are berserks. I was driving through Slovenia (about 600 km) a couple of weeks ago and what almost always happend was that when I was overtaking trucks on the second lane with 150-160 km/h (130 allowed) cars with higher spped would drive up really colse and strarting to blink /turn up their headlights. When overtaking I was cut every second time. So far I am without accidents and tickets after 8 years.
well, since traffic laws differ from country to country you'd first have to say what country you're fromadog said:
In Switzerland, passing on the right lane certainly isn't allowed. hell, you can even be fined for driving on the left lane while the right lane is free ...
oh, and on topic: I consider myself a safe driver (like everybody
) On the Autobahn I drive +10km/h tops, otherwise +5km/h tops. I never tailgaite (since I absoletely hate it if people do it to me), and I never drink alcohol when I know I'll be driving (even though 0.05% would be allowed).
KaeptnOvi said:well, since traffic laws differ from country to country you'd first have to say what country you're from
In Switzerland, passing on the right lane certainly isn't allowed. hell, you can even be fined for driving on the left lane while the right lane is free ...
I heard that there are two states in the US that are going to start actually enforcing 'slower traffic keep right' as well.
Rambuchan
The Funky President
You have a good point there. However, I still think this is a close call between the two views. Sure the stopping distance is greater at higher speeds, that's a given. But I'm not so sure it reduces our x value as much as you claim. What about the speed of the flow of traffic that contains those stopping distances? I'm not able to calculate the relative merits, but if someone can, I'd be interested to see the results and will gladly take a public flogging over the matter if I'm wrong.Mr. Blonde said:
As for deaths and accidents, sure they equal costs. But I take the view that these are more likely to happen when people block up lanes at inappropriate speeds.
thetrooper
Misanthrope
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14 years behind the wheel, no speeding tickets (but I do speed a lot), 4 parking tickets and no accidents.
Rhymes
Drive 4 25 is back
Cleric said:
I use to do that to roll up my joints in my pothead days...... and lit them up in the car
Seconded, Ram. And since a leftlaneloafer will frequently back up traffic behind him, potentially for miles, he is setting the stage for compressed between-car gaps, tailgating, frustrated drivers doing more lane changes to get by, etc.
thetrooper said:
You apparently park more than you speed...
PrinceOfLeigh
Wigan, England
I have to admit I'm a bit quick in the car. I usually travel at 90mph on the motorway which in England is 20mph over the limit and, I have to say, standard fayre.
I can't stand being in traffic as I see it as wasted time. As such I'm usually moving in and out of lanes to try and beat the traffic. It's the kind of behaviour that when I see others do it I think "what a ****" before going ahead and doing the same thing.
That being said I never flash the lights, tailgate or hit the horn to get someone out of the way. I have hit done that if someone has cut me up though.
That being said I'd never had any kind of traffic ticket save a seatbelt penalty.
I can't stand being in traffic as I see it as wasted time. As such I'm usually moving in and out of lanes to try and beat the traffic. It's the kind of behaviour that when I see others do it I think "what a ****" before going ahead and doing the same thing.
That being said I never flash the lights, tailgate or hit the horn to get someone out of the way. I have hit done that if someone has cut me up though.
That being said I'd never had any kind of traffic ticket save a seatbelt penalty.
Not only that, the outside lanes are for overtaking only. Someone travelling in the middle lane with no traffic in the nearside lane is, effectively, driving without due care and attention. It's a contencious law however and easily debated which is why, rather than police it and reduce traffic, the cops would rather hide in the bushes with a speed gun.Rambuchan said:
