Who is responsible for Darfur genocide?

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Right! Evil joooz again! (Sudanese style)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060920/wl_nm/sudan_darfur_un_dc

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Sudan's president said on Tuesday his country would never allow U.N. peacekeepers into Darfur and charged that the West wanted to dismember his country in order to help Israel.

"It is very clear there is a plan to redraw the region," especially after the invasion of Iraq, President Omar Hassan al-Bashir told a news conference on the sidelines of a ministerial U.N. General Assembly session.

"The main purpose is the security of Israel. Any state in the region should be weakened, dismembered in order to protect the Israelis, to guarantee the Israeli security," he said.

Asked about Sunday's rallies Darfur peace rallies from Rwanda to San Francisco, Bashir said they were "invariably organized by Zionist Jewish organizations."

Bashir said he supported a continued presence of an African Union force in Darfur, which wants the United Nations to take over its operation of 7,000 soldiers and monitors.

While his government welcomed outside advisers and logistical support to the AU force, Bashir reject "boots on the ground" from outside Africa, even if under AU control as U.N. officials had suggested.

Sudan has rejected a U.N. Security Council resolution adopted on August 31 authorizing up to 22,500 troops and police to replace the cash-strapped and ill-equipped AU troops.

The Sudanese president spoke several hours after President George W. Bush challenged world leaders to move quickly to get peacekeepers into Darfur, saying lives are at stake as well as the credibility of the United Nations.

"If the Sudanese government does not approve the peacekeeping force quickly, the U.N. must act," Bush said. Addressing himself to the people of Darfur, he added: "Your lives and the credibility of the United Nations is at stake."

But Bashir said, "We want the African Union to remain in Darfur until peace is re-established in Sudan," adding: "We in the Sudan totally reject (its) transformation of into a U.N. force."

Several speakers including Liberian President Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf, hinted at U.N. intervention without the consent of Khartoum.

She called on the Security Council to act to restore peace "security and stability" to Darfur. But U.N. officials have said no country has volunteered to shoot its way in.

Bashir noted that the U.N. resolution also called for help to train police and an independent judiciary, which only help enforce suspicion of the council's motives.

"We are a state, we have our institutions, our institutions have not collapsed," Bashir said, speaking in Arabic, translated into choppy English.

Years of fighting in Sudan's west have forced more than 2 million people to flee their homes for overcrowded refugee camps with little prospect of returning to the life they once knew. Non-Arab tribes took up arms against the government in February 2003 to protest alleged neglect and deprivation.

In turn Sudan, unleashed and armed Arab militia, known as Janjaweed, who murdered and raped civilians. In recent months, factions of rebel groups and bandits have done the same.

U.N. and humanitarian groups estimate some 200,000 people have died from the conflict, hunger and disease. But Bashir said humanitarian groups exaggerated the crisis.

Bashir said the United Nations should punish those who started the conflict rather than Khartoum, which had to send in soldiers, a position Arab nations have echoed.

Some will say (I'm sure), "well, what do you expect from some dictator-wacko?" And, some will say (and I'm not surprised anymore) "well, in some strange way he is right".
Soooo, is that just me or anybody else now understands the meaning of "Israel is destabilizing world's peace" cliche?
 
Leha said:
Right! Evil joooz again! (Sudanese style)
Yes, you seem to be everywhere these days.

Maybe "Ben" has jewish blood as well? ;)

Leha said:
Some will say (I'm sure), "well, what do you expect from some dictator-wacko?"
Well, what did you expect? Seriously?
Leha said:
And, some will say (and I'm not surprised anymore) "well, in some strange way he is right?
I really wait who will say so that Israel is responsible for the events in Darfur. If you mean that.

Leha said:
Soooo, is that just me or anybody else now understands the meaning of "Israel is destabilizing world's peace" cliche?
You seem to be again creating links between the thoughts about total annihilation of Israel and being against the policies of Israel. They are two separete things, or at least for me.

I may say Israel's army and government are filled with corruption and want-on violence but it doesn't mean I would like to destroy Israel totally. This isn't my viewpoint of course, but it could be.

Some actions of Israel might cause further destabilization of peace in the region and in the world, why you don't understand it?

But it seems some are then saying that Iran is destabilizing the region, which seems to be kind of doublestandard, don't you think? If they think that Israel isn't doing the same? I mean not their actions but the very existance of Iran.
 
C~G said:
Well, what did you expect? Seriously?

What did I expect? I'll tell you what I do expect. I expect people to realise, that many arab and muslim countries are ruled by dictator-wackoes, and that it is very sad that half of the world listens to them very closely and believes them.

I really wait who will say so that Israel is responsible for the events in Darfur. If you mean that..

Why, the same guys who say that Bush orchestrated 9/11 along with Mossad, for example.

You seem to be again creating links between the thoughts about total annihilation of Israel and being against the policies of Israel. They are two separete things, or at least for me.

I may say Israel's army and government are filled with corruption and want-on violence but it doesn't mean I would like to destroy Israel totally. This isn't my viewpoint of course, but it could be.

Some actions of Israel might cause further destabilization of peace in the region and in the world, why you don't understand it?

But it seems some are then saying that Iran is destabilizing the region, which seems to be kind of doublestandard, don't you think? If they think that Israel isn't doing the same? I mean not their actions but the very existance of Iran.

I'm not creating anything. (Israeli army and government are as much corrupted as any army and government of most democratic countries in Europe, FYI). This man is NOT THREATENING TO DESTROY ISRAEL. This man is blaming JEWS and ISRAEL for his maniacal murderings. And by this sentence :"Some actions of Israel might cause further destabilization of peace in the region and in the world, why you don't understand it?" you prove exactly this kind of guys who'll say [see above] ""well, in some strange way he is right"
Why you don't understand it?
Isn't madman Ahmadinedjad stating the same thing? You see, it is very simple and convenient to find scapegoat and blame it of all your faults.
 
Ive always thought that Jews must be doing something right, because Jewish conspiracy theorists are almost invariably jerks.
 
Just a little more of the "Who, ME? Hell no I'm not guilty of anything, it's THEM, blame THEM!" logic thats going around the world, and is defantly not confined to a country or religion.
 
Every new Arab-Israeli war teaches an even younger generation of Arabs and Israelis to hate eachother more.
 
Leha, calm down, I was just asking clarifications nothing more.
I just said for me it's rather obvious that the man is insane linking Israel somehow to the events of Darfur. It's sad if some people cannot see it.
Leha said:
corrupted as any army and government of most democratic countries in Europe, FYI.
QFT ;)
Leha said:
This man is NOT THREATENING TO DESTROY ISRAEL. This man is blaming JEWS and ISRAEL for his maniacal murderings.
Well, thank god, he's only seeking an alibi and there's at least some positive note this time when it comes to the comments of dictators. ;)
Leha said:
And by this sentence :"Some actions of Israel might cause further destabilization of peace in the region and in the world, why you don't understand it?" you prove exactly this kind of guys who'll say [see above] ""well, in some strange way he is right"
Why you don't understand it?
Now you are misinterpreting me.
Like I would be claiming that Israel is responsible of destabilization of region because of some nutjob massacres and blames Israel for it. When I meant that some Israel's own actions might cause destabilization of the region and there fore such actions are open for criticism, don't you think? (example someone might criticize the attack to the Lebanon or the way it was conducted as such behaviour. I believe such criticism happens also in Israel?)
Leha said:
Isn't madman Ahmadinedjad stating the same thing? You see, it is very simple and convenient to find scapegoat and blame it of all your faults.
That's what I meant, don't try to steal my words and thoughts and present them as your own. :p
 
Tenochtitlan said:
Every new Arab-Israeli war teaches an even younger generation of Arabs and Israelis to hate eachother more.
Sudan never fought in a war against Israel.
 
The question is,can a Jew be evil or Good?It doesn't matter what label(of course if you are a Jew in the Western world.It is close as having a noble title of saying that you are infallible of any wickedness)you are under,if a fill in a blank have committed a crime,then it is true you should be punished.

I am sure that an investigation is under a skeptical man is covering this.Who knows,he could be a Jew symphathizer.:crazyeye: :lol:
 
Leha said:
Right! Evil joooz again! (Sudanese style)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060920/wl_nm/sudan_darfur_un_dc



Some will say (I'm sure), "well, what do you expect from some dictator-wacko?" And, some will say (and I'm not surprised anymore) "well, in some strange way he is right".
Soooo, is that just me or anybody else now understands the meaning of "Israel is destabilizing world's peace" cliche?

You crazy Jews never stop!
 
Arab muslims are killing African muslims and christians and its the jews fault? Who realy believes this crap?

Can I blame my heartburn on jews?
 
skadistic said:
Arab muslims are killing African muslims and christians and its the jews fault? Who realy believes this crap?

Can I blame my heartburn on jews?
I hear it's the Jews fault that the sauropods died out.
 
skadistic said:
Arab muslims are killing African muslims and christians and its the jews fault? Who realy believes this crap?

Can I blame my heartburn on jews?

i guess you can if you try hard enough:lol: its about trying:D
 
nivi said:
Just a little more of the "Who, ME? Hell no I'm not guilty of anything, it's THEM, blame THEM!" logic thats going around the world, and is defantly not confined to a country or religion.

nor does it only apply to the "arab/muslim world"...

:mischief: :mischief: :mischief:
 
Spartan117 said:
i guess you can if you try hard enough:lol: its about trying:D
I'll give it a shot.

Jews control the money and the media so it was the jews in the marketing department of the the denture paste manufacturer that lead to me heart burn.:crazyeye: It realy is posible to blame the jews for anything.:rolleyes:
 
Blaming the Jews is boring. Thats old material al-Bashir. Go for something unique. BLAME THE AINU!
 
Well, to be fair, it could be worse as far as fat lies are concerned.

Amajenidad (or whatever, you know. HIM) would probably claim that the actual deaths in Darfur are killed by jews. Or by people paid by jews. Or something.

It's just an attempt to rile up his local population against any would-be western peacekeepers. Pretty well maneuvered too ; if he pinned the blame on american imperialism, the americans would have a relatively easy time of winning the population over (just be ultra nice to them, and improve their lot). But blaming any western action on "evil jews" (or any other evil string-pullers ; it's just the notion of zionist string-puller has been around for well over a century by now, and with all the Israel-Arab ongoing troubles, muslims tend to like that notion) really makes it hard to prove otherwise.

After all, if the American soldier in front of you is giving candies to kids, it's harder to believe he's part of an evil American plot. But it's a lot easier to believe he,s a puppet of evil jooz without even realizing it.

And, from there, much easier to stab, shoot or otherwise maim him, and anyone who works with him.
 
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